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Harold

I'm having this discussion because, while I do get that there is a bar that separates absolute trash from good music, there seems to be this kind of mono directional porosity that, in the course of time, allows songs that received fairly positive contemporary reviews to be elevated to retrospective...

Harold

It's been posted, back in December:

http://acclaimedmusic.net/forums/viewto ... =28&t=9330

Harold

- Annual Country Music Critics' Poll (USA; counts for previous years, actually under Nashville Scene) I'm not sure what you mean by this, could you post a link to the list here? Donchano is saying that the list posted in this thread - http://acclaimedmusic.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=9827 - is ...

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The great jazz pianist and fusion pioneer Chick Corea, known for his work with Miles Davis as well as with his own group Return to Forever, has passed away at 79, from cancer.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/musi ... t-1127283/

Harold

I think the rationale for not expanding the album list had something to do with the fact that Henrik hasn't had time to add a lot of the more recent all-time lists; an expansion based on the current database would add a lot of albums from recent years (because of EOY/EOD lists) but so many less from...

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The most amazing and welcome feature of the new update is that the "Starting List" spreadsheet now contains all of the rankings, for every single film. A rather startling move, as Bill himself admits in his introduction, especially given how grudging he was in previous years about adding the ranking...

Harold

Side note - "24 Hour Party People" is a fun film to watch (about the Manchester scene). Mark E. Smith even has a cameo! Howard Devoto (Buzzcocks, Magazine) also has a cameo, and it's brilliant: there's a scene depicting a fictionalized Devoto having a quickie in a nightclub bathroom with the wife o...

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Robert Christgau, in a terrific essay on the Dolls in the classic 1979 desert-island-records anthology Stranded , has some interesting insights on Sylvain’s essential role in the band, even though he “doesn’t add something unique to a sound that pits the competent-plus musicianship of [vocalist Davi...

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I was just thinking about the New York Dolls yesterday, and had already been planning to pull out the debut, one of my all-time favorites (it's consistently in my top 5 when we do our album polls). Now I'll be listening to it as a tribute. David Johansen is now the only surviving member of the lineu...

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Quick note that, thanks to the pandemic surge, the Grammy ceremony has been postponed from January 31 to March 14.

Harold

Some people think the eligibility is because the chosen albums and songs and not because what Henrik have said for years. Hey, if this is a serious comment let's shut that down right now, please. Decisions on eligibility for the spreadsheet are NEVER based on bias (i.e., "I don't like this list so ...

Harold

I'm going to go down to every two weeks, there hasn't been enough new lists yet to justify another update. Dear, Holden. First, I'm so glad that Rina Sawayama is another act to sit on the top position outside Fiona Apple or their previous competitor, Run the Jewels, Phoebe Bridgers did it too on pr...

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In the wake of the announcement of MF DOOM's death, I find myself wondering whether Madvillain and DangerDoom could/should be listed on DOOM's artist page, as Viktor Vaughn already is (I know that MV and DD were collaborations, but still).

Harold

https://www.magicrpm.com/les-100-meilleurs-disques-de-lannee-selon-magic/ Ghassan, welcome to the forum! A couple of things: this thread is not for end-of-year lists, it's for the bimonthly year-so-far album list compiled by one of our members (Otisredding). There's another section of the forum ded...

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How about Thundercat's "Show You the Way," featuring yacht-rock kings Kenny Loggins and Michael McDonald?

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You'd be hard pressed to find a more unlikely grouping than both Mavis Staples and Josh Homme on "Pulling the Pin" from RTJ4.

Harold

There's already a thread for the EOY lists from Paste: http://acclaimedmusic.net/forums/viewto ... =28&t=9313.

Harold

Holden wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 6:56 pm Is this meant to be ranked?

It's definitely ranked. When it was copied and pasted the numbers seem to have disappeared.

Harold

We have consistently used them - as recently as last year, in fact.

Harold

As for the actual placement of the two tracks on the album I think adding them both to side 2 probably works. I'd sequence side two like this personally: Strawberry Fields Forever Within You Without You Lovely Rita / Good Morning, Good Morning Penny Lane Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band A Day ...

Harold

So how should I go about entering the songs list into the spreadsheet? I assume that the three songs at the top would be given a position of 2 to average it out, then everything else would be brought down 2 positions, while the "1" value in row 4 would be a "2" instead? Good question. We need to in...

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Vacantjoy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:19 pm
charliepanayi wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:14 pm
They didn't really rate it (or indeed the last one which was a lot better anyway)
What do you mean by this? (or indeed the last one which was a lot better anyway)

He means that Pitchfork didn't care much for Idles' previous album, either. And that in his opinion that album was a lot better.

Harold

The 30 Best Albums of 2020 That Made Us Cry, Dance, and Fall in Love https://www.glamour.com/story/best-albums-of-2020 Is it eligible? Not unless Glamour has magically transformed from a women's lifestyle and fashion magazine into a music publication. 99.999% sure they don't meet the review standard.

Harold

Henrik wrote: ↑Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:14 pm Thank you Harold! Very interesting stuff!

Thanks, Henrik!

Harold

Thanks for the responses! I'm going to go ahead and post the whole RYM/BEA top 3000 list, as an attachment. There are four spreadsheets in the file: the list itself; the data for the list, with each album's position on both charts; a comparison sheet with each album's Acclaimed Music rank ("BU" mean...

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How should I handle reissues (such as Tom Petty's Wildflowers & All the Rest) Should they be removed entirely? if an album is on a list, just include it in the spreadsheet. I always did. If enough sources include a likely-ineligible album that it might actually end up with a high rank, Henrik will ...

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In the interest of completeness, I should note that RYM's album list excludes EP's as well, while both BEA and AM include them. This explains, for example, the absence here of Godspeed You! Black Emperor's Slow Riot for New Zero Kanada (the latter is in BEA's top 1000, and is the #1-ranked EP on RYM...

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The list below represents the top 500 albums, based on a combination of the all-time lists on Rate Your Music ( http://www.rateyourmusic.com ) and Best Ever Albums ( http://www.besteveralbums.com ), that do not appear on Acclaimed Music (either in the all-time top 3000 or as Bubbling Under entries) ...

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starchman46 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:56 am Are the ratings going to impact albums' points in the spreadsheet? I think they probably should.

No. If that was the case, the albums would be ranked according to their ratings. This is meant to be an unranked list and should be entered accordingly.

Harold

Because of my explorations of the lists on Rate Your Music and Best Ever Albums, I have albums by several of Spinetta's bands (Almendra, Pescado Rabioso, Invisible). Fascinating music, although as you note my appreciation is limited by my inability to understand the lyrics. Fun fact: most readers he...

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I did not find an album in the new spreadsheet that was rated at 1893 for the 2018 update. My (often incorrect) records indicate that the 1893rd rated album in the 2018 update was "A Date With Elvis" by Elvis Presley. Henrik indicated in an earlier post on this thread that both A Date With Elvis an...

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The fact that there are zero Kanye West albums here, given that fact, can only be seen as punishment for his recent behavior and activities. Which are appalling, yes. But this is the worst kind of bullshit revisionist history. The man may be a walking cartoon character now, but that doesn't change ...

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They've made adventurous choices here: And one very petulant one. Notice any significant artists missing here? How about someone who SPIN themselves said made the #1 album of the year no less than four times? The fact that there are zero Kanye West albums here, given that fact, can only be seen as ...

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It's very funny to me in this situation that Sturgill Simpson has more major category Grammy nominations than Harry Styles does. Honestly the major Grammy categories at this point aren’t really where I look-you find way better albums and songs in the rock/electronic/R&B categories than the AOTY/ROT...

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Anyhoo, how 'bout the fact that Sturgill Simpson finished one spot ahead of Harry Styles on that Uproxx list?

Anybody? Anybody? Uh, guys? ...

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So in my opinion, the decision was a bit shocking and the Oscars had to give the award to Moonlight to make angry people and critics forget the 2016's controversy. I don't want to get in the weeds on this discussion either (which is way off topic as well), but I will say that, as deserving a Best P...

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Arsalan, I'm very into film (especially the Oscars) and I feel that no one really questions the selection of Moonlight as the best of 2016. It's near the top on TSPDT. Also, not trying to say that you are explicitly biased here, but I feel as though we are still seeing your way of thinking that peo...

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charliepanayi wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:42 pm Even with everything going on in the world and Pitchfork itself it’s weird that SAULT have totally passed Pitchfork by this year

I believe you meant to say ... that Pitchfork [puts on sunglasses] ... passed the SAULT.
[Roger Daltrey: YYYEEEAAAHHH!!!]

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luvulongTIM wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:58 am They need to do away with that element of suspense thing already. A Music magazine in 2020 if they’re even still in publication is a miracle in itself.

Well, The Guardian isn't a music magazine, it's a daily newspaper. The existence of which in 2020 is also a miracle in itself.

Harold

Anyone want to take a guess at what their no. 2 album will be behind Fiona Apple? I'm going for Phoebe Bridgers. As for highest rated album to not make their albums list, Medhane got cancelled recently so maybe that one. I can easily see an all-female top three (Apple, Swift, Bridgers). Maybe even ...

Harold

I don't disagree with you on WAP, but I don't understand your take that it is differentiated from Bodak Yellow topping this list in 2017. There are a lot of songs I haven't heard on the bottom half of this list that seem interesting. As for the top part of the list, this is just the direction that ...

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Nick wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:56 pm So this is what it’s come down to, huh?

The fact that so many books still name Cardi B as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever...

Sorry, I'll stop there.

Harold

Song of the year is specifically a songwriting award, rather than Record of the Year, which refers to an actual specific recorded version. SOTY also related to quality of the song so I don't understand the exclusion There is a difference between a song as music and lyrics on a page and a recording ...

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I think that the inclusion of Fleetwood Mac's "Dreams" is abundantly strange, though. It's because of that viral Tiktok video with the smiling middle-aged guy on the skateboard chuggin' Sunny D and singing along like he doesn't have a care in the world. The song definitely had a resurgence because ...

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What about Song of the Year? Song of the Year is purely a writers' award. Record is for the overall recording itself, so it's more appropriate for inclusion here. Also, although the two categories almost never match up nominee-for-nominee, there's enough overlap to make it redundant to include both...

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Henrik is already including the Grammy winners for album and record of the year. I'm just suggesting that he extend that out to also give some credit to the other nominees in those 2 categories, maybe half as much credit as the winner got. Getting nominated is a big deal. Usually there are 5 nomine...

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Coming in from the latest site update to say that's a bizarrely low ranking for To Pimp a Butterfly. Well, as you can probably surmise from the list, The Quietus is dedicated mostly to experimental and electronic music. The fact that TPAB made their list at all is more noteworthy than its low ranki...

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Arsalan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:44 pm I don't know what is happening to critics (BTS? Ariana Grande? Drake? Seriously?)

OK, I'll give you the first three, but I love Seriously. He's one of the most significant artists to emerge in the last 10 years.

Harold

This is an unusual year - I can't remember the last time Exclaim! released an actual top 50 EOY list rather than posting a series of genre top 10s (or top 10+). Holden, this certainly makes your job easier!

Harold

SAULT is making up it with their performance on EOY lists so far! They certainly are. Every year, there are a few albums that seemingly come out of nowhere when the EOY lists start appearing, and these two albums may turn out to be the ultimate examples of this phenomenon. I became aware of their e...

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