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Re: Rating changes (Allmusic, Scaruffi, etc.) - Update 2017

Post by Matski » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:04 pm

Did you even bother to check the link above? The site takes snapshots of websites to form a historial archive of the internet. Going back to when it started archiving AllMusic's pages in 2012, the album's rating has remained unchanged. Looking at the album's wikipedia entry shows the same results - since the AllMusic rating was added in 2011, it has been rated at 4.0 stars.

It's fair enough if you think the album should be rated higher. God knows there are hundreds of albums that I feel are under-rated by AllMusic and deserve an upgrade.

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Post by Matski » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:31 pm

Tuesday Night Music Club by Sheryl Crow has been upgraded to 4.0 stars on AllMusic.

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Post by Matski » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:45 pm

Both Second Annual Report and DOA: Third and Final Report by Throbbing Gristle have been upgraded to 4.0 stars by AllMusic.

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Post by Matski » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:59 pm

Hopes and Fears by Keane has been upgraded to 4.5 stars on AllMusic.

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Post by Matski » Fri Sep 20, 2019 3:05 pm

Whipped Cream and Other Delights by Herb Alpert has been upgraded to 5 stars on AllMusic.

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Post by Matski » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:31 pm

The Haunted Man by Bat for Lashes has been upgraded to 4.0 stars by AllMusic.
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Post by Matski » Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:23 pm

Some unnecessary changes to Nick Cave's discography:

Your Funeral... My Trial has been upgraded to 4.5 stars
Henry's Dream has been downgraded to 3.5 stars.
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Post by Matski » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:05 am

Monster by R.E.M. has been upgraded to 3.0 stars by AllMusic.

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Post by Monte » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:41 pm

They only keep upgrading the same old men. Meh

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Post by Matski » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:09 am

EricMackAttacks wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 10:47 am
...
The Fragile - now 4 (used to be 3)
...
Bad Witch - still 3.5
...
Seems like AllMusic were unhappy with those changes:

The Fragile has been further upgraded to 4.5 stars.
Bad Witch has been downgraded to 3 stars. (boo!)

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Post by Matski » Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:00 pm

AllMusic have made another huge change to many of their ratings. All of the following albums were released in the 2010s and have been awarded a full five-star rating. It's a long list so here goes...:

EDIT -The following has been upgraded to a four and a half-star rating:
The following has (very sadly) been downgraded to a four-star rating:
The following has (almost as sadly) been downgraded to a three and a half-star rating:
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Post by Krurze » Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:13 pm

Beyoncé's B'day has also been downgraded to four stars. So I guess there might be even more changes.

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Post by digifuwill » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:44 am

Future islands’ Singles and Bjork’s Post also got bumped up to 5 stars

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Post by digifuwill » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:55 am

Same with Danny Brown’s Old and A Tribe Called Quest’s We Got It From Here

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Post by Matski » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:28 pm

Ugh, how did I miss those three off... Especially 'Old', which was the album that initially alerted me to the changes.

'Post' was upgraded earlier in the year, along with several other 90s releases. That's right, AllMusic have gone on two five-star upgrading sprees in a year! I don't expect it to happen again any time soon.

Krurze wrote:
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Beyoncé's B'day has also been downgraded to four stars. So I guess there might be even more changes.
AllMusic made these changes to her discography back in April, when 'Homecoming' was released.
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Post by Krurze » Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:32 pm

Oops, not sure how I missed that!

On a sidenote, I'm curious when Allmusic will finally pull off a YHF on MBDTF.

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Post by Matski » Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:27 pm

Seeming as they just upgraded 'Yeezus', I doubt it will happen for some time. It would also make Kanye the only hip-hop act with more than three five-star studio albums! At best, any upgrade in the next few years would likely involve switching the ratings between MBDTF and one of Kanye's three five-star rated albums.

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Post by Matski » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:04 pm

More changes on AllMusic:

Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Let Love In has been upgraded to a full five-stars.

Coldplay - A Rush of Blood to the Head has been upgraded to 4.5 stars.

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Post by Shakermaker » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:02 pm

Also upgraded to 5 stars on AllMusic:

Tame Impala - Lonerism
Chvrches - The Bones of What You Believe
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Skeleton Tree

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Post by Matski » Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:48 pm

Really disappointed that I missed so many updates off that post last weekend. Some of my favourite albums this decade too! Oh well, here's another update from AllMusic - it seems Coldplay's discography is undergoing a ratings overhaul:

Coldplay - X&Y and Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends have been upgraded to 4.5 stars.


EDIT: Formatting.
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Post by Shakermaker » Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:19 pm

Downgraded to 3.5 stars on AllMusic:
Beck - Morning Phase


Edit: Woops, always had this rating to begin with. Silly Wikipedia vandals.
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Post by MartyD82 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:34 pm

The following two Taylor Swift albums were bumped up to 5 stars by AllMusic:

Fearless
Red


Actually, Fearless got a bump I believe two years ago. So I'm surprised nobody mentioned it yet. I'm also pretty sure 1989 will eventually get a bump to at least 4.5 stars, given all the End Of Decade accolades it's getting.

I have no idea why My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy hasn't gotten a 5 star bump yet, but in time, I'm pretty sure it will.

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Post by Matski » Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:43 pm

Seems like they chose Yeezus over My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. That may seem like an odd choice from the outside but AllMusic have never seemed to bow to the zeitgeist surrounding the album. I wonder if their editorial team even noticed it's the only Kanye album their users have given a full five-star rating to...

With exeception to 2018 & 2019 which are too recent to deem classic status, AllMusic is probably done upgrading albums from the last decade for now. In this series of re-ratings they have upgraded over 120 entries from the 2010s! Hopefully they'll alter entries from the 80s, 90s and 00s next. There are now less five-star albums for the 00s than the 10s, which is bizarre.

Just a friendly reminder to those posting that this thread is "for reporting of rating changes, or missing ratings on AM." Please check the Acclaimed Music website to see if the albums are listed or already have the correct rating before posting.

Morning Phase has the correct rating here (looking at the page history, I believe someone has been messing around with the wikipedia entry) and neither Fearless nor Red are currently listed on AM's Taylor Swift entry page. I expect that will change when the End-of-Decade lists are all in, collated and finally added but for now that's probably a long way off.

EDIT: Spelling.
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Post by Monte » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:00 pm

Taylor should get a big bump on AM rankings, I'm seeing her in plenty of lists

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Post by digifuwill » Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:09 am

Allmusic categorically gave 5 stars to every (non-classical) 2010-2017 album that made their best of decade list. It’s a substantial change in their process. Until now they have generally based the 5 star rating on influence as well as quality. This is why they take so long to assign an album its top rating and why an artist’s earlier albums are more likely to be granted 5 stars than more celebrated later work. They didn’t abandon their belief system entirely: not a single 2018 or 2019 album got the 5 star rating. Still, the decision to upgrade all of their top 2010-2017 albums at once is a new practice. And it’s the main reason why so many albums from this decade were honored while In Rainbows, Illinois, Ys, Fleet Foxes, Sound Of Silver - all listed in their respective year-end best-of recaps - are still waiting. Wilco’s Yhf didn’t get promoted until just a short while ago. Hopefully amg doesn’t renege a few months from now on its top ratings for the albums on its new end-of-decade list, but frankly a lot of the upgrades (eg, for albums by Jimmy Cliff, Shakira, Miranda Lambert, QOTSA, Tribe Called Quest, etc.) were pretty shocking. (To be clear, I’m talking about their procedure. I’m not commenting in any way on those albums’ quality).

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Post by Matski » Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:04 pm

Mentioned this in another thread but End of Year/Decade articles were something AllMusic didn't start doing until 2008 and even then that was as retrospectives. It's taken them many years to embrace it the way outlets like Pitchfork always have. When the end of 2009 rolled around, they never would have rolled out a carpet for the decade the way they have in 2019. Instead they were happy to update maybe 20-30 entries every five years or so. Which means the 00s has only around 40-60 five-star studio albums compared to the 120+ albums they've just updated for the 2010s.

I'll be honest, I think updating around 100 or more albums from the 2000s to a full five-star rating is now a priority for them. Especially as the Christmas period is upon us, which means fewer new releases to review. Things won't pick up again until a couple of weeks after the new year so they have plenty of time to get it done.

As others have previously mentioned here, AllMusic also have glaring holes with their 80s and 90s (and to a lesser extent 70s) five-star ratings. It is either damning of cumbersome editorial practices or a lack of cultural awareness that highly influential and widely acclaimed albums like Disintergration or Hounds of Love still haven't been awarded a higher rating. They could do with someone from Acclaimed Music going through their database with our Top Albums list to plug in those gaps.

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Post by Matski » Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:47 am

A number of changes to album ratings on AllMusic:

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Post by Shakermaker » Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:53 pm

Downgraded to 3.5 stars on AllMusic:
Kamasi Washington - Harmony of Difference

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Post by Matski » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:17 pm

Deerhunter - Microcastle has been upgraded to 4.5 stars on AllMusic.
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Post by horacewimp10538 » Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:12 pm

Allmusic: Mercury Rev - All Is Dream is upgraded from 4 to 4.5 stars

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Post by Matski » Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:19 pm

Marilyn Manson - The Pale Emperor has been upgraded to 4.5 stars on AllMusic.

horacewimp10538 wrote:
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Allmusic: Mercury Rev - All Is Dream is upgraded from 4 to 4.5 stars
Welcome to the forum horacewimp10538. Sorry to say but I already beat you to the punch on this one - see above. ;)

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Post by Matski » Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:26 am

Seems like someone at AllMusic has been re-evaluating 00s British rock recently. First Coldplay, now Muse:

Muse - Absolution has been upgraded again, this time to 4.0 stars.
Muse - Black Holes & Revelations has been upgraded to 4.5 stars.

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Post by Matski » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:48 pm

Two new downgrades on AllMusic:

Algiers - The Underside of Power is now rated at 4.0 stars.
Bill Fay - Life Is People is also now rated at 4.0 stars.

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Post by Krurze » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:07 pm

Also, BIll Fay's s/t is now rated 3.5 stars

https://www.allmusic.com/album/bill-fay-mw0000689271

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Post by PhillyGymRat » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:09 am

Jazmine Sullivan’s 2010 “Love Me Back” album is now 5 stars on allmusic.

https://www.allmusic.com/album/love-me- ... 0002035850

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Post by Matski » Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:02 pm

Love Me Back isn't listed on AM. Reality Show is the only Jazmine Sullivan album even close to charting so far. Too bad that AllMusic didn't choose upgrade that latter release instead.

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Post by PhillyGymRat » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:03 am

Matski
Can I respectfully disagree? I think Fearless should’ve gotten the 5 star treatment over her other albums.

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Post by bootsy » Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:43 am

Matski wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:02 pm
Love Me Back isn't listed on AM. Reality Show is the only Jazmine Sullivan album even close to charting so far. Too bad that AllMusic didn't choose upgrade that latter release instead.
Agreed.

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Post by PlasticRam » Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:37 pm

Scaruffi's ratings of Grimes:

Visions - 6.5
Art Angels - 7
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Post by PlasticRam » Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:17 pm

Godspeed You! Black Emperor Scaruffi rating:

Lift Your Skinny Fists is 7.5 now, not 7.
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Post by Matski » Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:58 pm

The following albums have been upgraded to 4.5 stars on AllMusic:
The following albums have been upgraded to 4.0 stars on AllMusic:
EDIT: Formatting.
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Post by Shakermaker » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:20 pm

Upgraded to 5 stars on AllMusic:
Rain Parade - Emergency Third Rail Power Trip

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Post by lagire » Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:49 pm

Christgau:
Arca Xen > **
Barnett, Courtney Lotta Sea Lice > **

Scaruffi:
Father John Misty I Love You, Honeybear > 5
Father John Misty Pure Comedy > 6.5

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Post by lagire » Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:32 am

Christgau:

Future Honest > **
Future HNDRXX > **
Jlin Black Origami > ***
Lorde Melodrama > B+
Mitski Puberty 2 > **
Giddens, Rhiannon Freedom Highway > ***
Giddens, Rhiannon Tomorrow is My Turn > *
St. Vincent MASSEDUCTION > B+
Alvvays Antisocialites > A-

SCaruffi:
Mount Eerie A Crow Looked at Me > 5
St. Vincent MASSEDUCTION > 5

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Post by lagire » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:29 pm

Christgau:
Olsen, Angel > My Woman > *
Staples, Vince Big Fish Theory > A-

Scaruffi:
Converge The Dusk in Us > 6
Gas Narkopop > 7
Vince Staples Summertime '06 > 7.5
Vince Staples Big Fish Theory > 5

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Post by lagire » Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:01 pm

Guide du cd:

Black Sabbath Vol 4 > 2 under the 1992 release "Children of the grave"
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Post by Shakermaker » Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:51 pm

Upgraded to 3.5 stars on AllMusic:
The Clash - Sandinista!
Gomez - Liquid Skin

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Post by panam » Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:54 pm

Scaruffi rates:

Bad Bunny: X 100pre (2018), 6/10 https://www.scaruffi.com/vol8/badbunny.html
J Balvin: Energia (2016), 4/10 https://www.scaruffi.com/vol8/balvin.html
J Balvin Vibras (2018), 5/10 https://www.scaruffi.com/vol8/balvin.html

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Guide du cd:

Gavin Bryars The Sinking of the Titanic was not 4, error of mine it's the 1990 Live version recorded in Bourges in 1990 instead
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album ... tanic-1.p/

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Post by lagire » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:22 am

Guide du cd:

Changes or adds with the A-B Jazz Artists checks:

Abyssinian Baptist Choir Shakin' the Rafters > 4
Air [USA] Live Air 2
Art Blakey The Jazz Messengers 1956 > no rate, Confused with 1961 album below
Art Blakey The Jazz Messengers!!!!!! 1961 > 5
Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers Caravan > 2 > Don't know if its' the 1962 or 1983 Album for you, 1983 Album is 3
Art Ensemble of Chicago Urban Bushmen 1982 4
Art Ensemble of Chicago A Jackson in Your House 2
Art Ensemble of Chicago Les Stances a Sophie 1970 2
Big Bill Broonzy Nobody's Business 3
Big Brother & The Holding Company Big Brother & The Holding Company 1967 4
Cannonball Adderley & Coltrane 5
Cannonball Adderley At the Lighthouse 1961 > 3
Cannonball Adderley Them Dirty Blues 3
Cannonball Adderley Cannonball's Bossa Nova 3
Chet Baker In New York 1958 3
Chet Baker Chet Baker Sings 1954 > no rate, Confused with Plays & Sings 1964 Album
Chet Baker Chet 1959 3
Chet Baker Let's Get Lost 1989 3
Chet Baker My Favourite Songs 5
Chet Baker Chet Is Back! 1962 3
Chet Baker & Art Pepper Playboys/Picture of Health 4
Clarence Gatemouth Brown Alright Again 3
Claude Bolling & Jean-Pierre Rampal Suite for Flute & Jazz Piano 1975 3
Clifford Brown Memorial Album 1956 3
Clifford Brown Jazz Immortal 1956 2
Count Basie Basie/The Atomic Mr. Basie/The Complete Atomic Basie 1958 5
Donald Byrd A New Perspective 3
Ella Fitzgerald Ella & Basie!/On the Sunny Side of the Street 1963 4
Gary Burton & Chick Corea Crystal Silence 3
Gato Garbieri Fenix 3
Gene Ammons & Sonny Stitt Boss Tenors: Straight Ahead From Chicago August 1961 1961 > 3 > Error of mine, i give 3 for the 1960 Album "Boss Tenor" which have no rate
Gene Ammons with Dodo Marmosa Jug & Dodo 2
George Adams & Don Pullen Live at the Village Vanguard Vol. 1 3
George Adams & Don Pullen Live at the Village Vanguard Vol. 2 1
George Benson It's Uptown 1966 3
James Booker Junco Partner 3
Jeanne Lee & Ran Blake The Newest Sound Around 5
John Abercrombie Timeless 2
John Abercrombie, Dave Holland & Jack DeJohnette Gateway 4
Lester Bowie Avant Pop 3
Lester Bowie The Great Pretender 3
Lester Bowie's Brass Fantasy I Only Have Eyes for You 4
Louis Armstrong Louis and The Good Book 1958 4
Louis Armstrong & Duke Ellington Together for the First Time/The Complete Sessions 1961 4
Paul Bley Open, to Love 4
Paul Bley Tears 4
Paul Bley The Paul Bley Quartet 1988 2
Paul Bley Fragments 1
Ran Blake Short Life of Barbara Monk 2
Ran Blake That Certain Feeling 4
Tony Bennett / Count Basie Basie/Bennett / Basie Swings, Bennett Sings 1959 4

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