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Comparing the new update

Post by Blanco » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:00 am

As you already know, Henrik already updated all the Acclaimed Music lists. Thank you, Henrik.
He has also made a list comparing the differences in the positions that each artist received between the update and the last version here: viewtopic.php?p=13087#p13087

As he rightly says, we should not take the list seriously. I do not know why I feel I should repeat the same words here, but I do it just in case. Anyway, I wanted to extract the data from the list he made, to compare the update, perceiving how much time and years affect the results, you know. I hope that you do not find this lists unnecessary, since these results are "already there", but I think it is easier to compare this way. I only will put the differences between the Top Artists lists. If someone wants to put the comparisons between the other lists, I will be grateful.

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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by Blanco » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:27 am

New artists on the top 1000 list and their positions in the ranking:

153 Frank Ocean
267 Beach House
302 Janelle Monáe
357 Big Boi
371 Caribou/Manitoba
375 Tame Impala
380 Grimes
388 James Blake
411 Japandroids
460 Swans
461 Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti
484 Flying Lotus
494 Kendrick Lamar
518 St. Vincent
521 tUnE-yArDs
546 The Black Keys
588 Destroyer
613 Jessie Ware
661 Usher
680 Fucked Up
701 Adele
712 Lana Del Rey
720 The Weeknd
746 Cee-Lo
755 Wild Beasts
758 Miguel
771 Chromatics
806 Tyler, The Creator
825 Crystal Castles
828 Yeasayer
839 Metronomy
852 Lonnie Donegan
858 Peggy Lee
867 Julie London
871 The Tornados
874 Lester Young
876 Lykke Li
890 Lady Gaga
892 Mahalia Jackson
896 Oscar Peterson
900 Fats Waller
901 Solange
902 Shabazz Palaces
907 Jack White
919 Jacques Brel
926 Sleigh Bells
928 Edith Piaf
930 Coleman Hawkins
931 Stephen Stills
941 Iron Butterfly
942 Cloud Nothings
948 Gilberto Gil
955 Kurt Vile
956 Killer Mike
966 The Offspring
974 Foals
977 The Contours
984 Gregory Isaacs
988 Joan Baez
990 Van der Graaf Generator
994 Danny and The Juniors
996 Cab Calloway
998 alt-J
999 Willie Mae "Big Mama" Thornton

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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by Blanco » Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:28 am

Artists no longer listed among the top 1000, and his old position in the ranking:

741 The Dandy Warhols
768 They Might Be Giants
772 Ol' Dirty Bastard
799 Norah Jones
843 The Good, the Bad and the Queen
867 Broadcast
871 Ricardo Villalobos
873 Fingers Inc.
877 Merle Haggard
887 Matthew Sweet
894 Drive-By Truckers
895 Bronski Beat
896 Tommy James and The Shondells
898 T.I.
900 Girl Talk
901 Skip James
906 Camper Van Beethoven
907 LFO
916 The Sabres of Paradise
918 Sarah McLachlan
925 Gerry Mulligan
926 Jimmy Reed
928 Ozzy Osbourne
934 Prefuse 73
935 Kurtis Blow
938 Journey
939 Chris Isaak
941 Spice Girls
943 "Tennessee" Ernie Ford
945 Ash
946 Sublime
947 Garth Brooks
950 The Coral
954 Mano Negra
956 Astor Piazzolla
957 Emerson, Lake & Palmer
958 Social Distortion
959 Annie
960 No Age
962 Isolée
963 Atlas Sound
964 Jens Lekman
965 The Searchers
967 The Auteurs
968 The Sundays
969 GZA/Genius
970 Bill Doggett
972 P.M. Dawn
975 Herbert
976 Cassandra Wilson
979 La Roux
981 Art Brut
983 The Tragically Hip
984 Bryan Adams
985 This Heat
989 The Go! Team
990 Womack and Womack
992 Rick Nelson
993 Therapy?
994 Orchestra Baobab
995 Flipper
996 Al Jolson
997 Marshall Crenshaw
1000 Fountains of Wayne

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Re: Comparing the new update

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Artists who increased more his position in the rankings between the previous list and this one, and how many positions they increased:

+386 Fiona Apple
+343 Gil Scott-Heron
+271 Robyn
+264 Girls
+255 Deerhunter
+251 Henry Mancini
+250 Bon Iver
+233 Dinah Washington
+227 Donovan
+214 M83
+213 Slade
+208 The Horrors
+177 Nat King Cole
+177 Lennie Tristano
+160 Bing Crosby
+157 Four Tet
+142 Dirty Projectors
+139 Bat for Lashes
+132 The Weavers
+131 Grinderman
+129 Fleet Foxes
+125 The Sonics
+118 Glenn Miller
+110 The National
+110 Dr. John
+108 Harry Belafonte
+108 The Stranglers
+106 The xx
+106 Jorge Ben
+106 Nick Lowe
+103 Boz Scaggs
+102 The Saints
+100 George Russell
+100 Tito Puente
+98 Louis Jordan
+96 Roberta Flack
+95 Weather Report
+92 The Modern Jazz Quartet
+90 The Antlers
+89 The Damned
+87 Grizzly Bear
+86 Gary Numan
+86 Country Joe & The Fish
+83 Joe Henderson
+81 Fela Kuti
+79 Beth Orton
+78 Vampire Weekend
+78 The Slits
+77 Lambert, Hendricks and Ross
+74 Albert King

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Re: Comparing the new update

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Artists who decreased most in the rankings between the previous list and this one, and how many positions they decreased:

-283 Mastodon
-250 Loretta Lynn
-244 George Jones
-222 Muse
-221 Nina Simone
-196 Jimmie Rodgers
-196 Travis
-194 Noir Désir
-190 The Raconteurs
-186 Devendra Banhart
-180 Common
-177 Sheryl Crow
-169 Deftones
-166 Bill Monroe
-165 Danger Mouse
-160 Gang Starr
-157 En Vogue
-156 Uncle Tupelo
-154 Liars
-150 Inner City
-150 Salt 'n' Pepa
-147 ...And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead
-146 Super Furry Animals
-143 Low
-143 Lambchop
-140 Rufus Wainwright
-139 Sparklehorse
-133 Kings of Leon
-132 50 Cent
-129 Doves
-129 Luomo
-128 The Mars Volta
-127 N.E.R.D.
-127 Robert Plant & Alison Krauss
-123 Band of Horses
-122 Cameo
-121 Death Cab for Cutie
-119 Tears for Fears
-119 Pete Rock and C.L. Smooth
-116 Scissor Sisters
-116 Lindstrøm
-115 Living Colour
-114 The Microphones
-110 Judas Priest
-110 Jay Dee
-109 The Decemberists
-109 Iron & Wine
-109 Damien Rice
-108 Okkervil River
-107 EPMD

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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by Nassim » Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:04 pm

Albums :

50 biggest new entries :

125) Frank Ocean - Channel Orange
175) Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
220) Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
232) PJ Harvey - Let England Shake
286) Bon Iver - Bon Iver
397) Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d. city
402) Janelle Monáe - The ArchAndroid
404) The National - High Violet
405) Tame Impala - Lonerism
415) Beach House - Teen Dream
509) James Blake - James Blake
512) Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest
539) Swans - The Seer
551) LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening
590) Grizzly Bear - Shields
630) Fiona Apple - The Idler Wheel…
653) Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty
657) Fleet Foxes - Helplessness Blues
660) Tom Waits - Bad as Me
721) The Weeknd - House of Balloons
743) tUnE-yArDs - w h o k i l l
766) St. Vincent - Strange Mercy
770) Beach House - Bloom
773) Caribou - Swim
795) Grimes - Visions
801) Destroyer - Kaputt
813) Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Before Today
856) Chromatics - Kill for Love
915) Joanna Newsom - Have One On Me
934) Flying Lotus - Cosmogramma
1000) Fucked Up - David Comes to Life
1056) The Black Keys - Brothers
1065) M83 - Hurry Up, We're Dreaming
1066) Japandroids - Celebration Rock
1071) Vampire Weekend - Contra
1081) Shabazz Palaces - Black Up
1085) Sufjan Stevens - The Age Of Adz
1088) The xx - Coexist
1090) Jack White - Blunderbuss
1097) Dirty Projectors - Swing Lo Magellan
1106) Girls - Father, Son, Holy Ghost
1118) Jessie Ware - Devotion
1149) Wilco - The Whole Love
1191) Cloud Nothings - Attack on Memory
1219) Kurt Vile - Smoke Ring for My Halo
1223) Killer Mike - R.A.P. Music
1232) Flying Lotus - Until the Quiet Comes
1251) Robyn - Body Talk
1272) Sleigh Bells - Treats
1297) alt-J - An Awesome Wave

20 highest entries for albums released before 2010 :

2431) Betty Davis - They Say I'm Different*
2480) Eric Dolphy - Iron Man*
2537) Bob Marley and The Wailers - Survival*
2559) Arvo Pärt - Tabula Rasa%
2572) Kruder & Dorfmeister - The K & D Sessions
2581) Charles Mingus - The Clown*
2587) AC/DC - Powerage
2644) Q-Tip - The Renaissance
2646) Jaco Pastorius - Jaco Pastorius*
2652) Gilberto Gil - Gilberto Gil
2654) Freddie Hubbard - Ready for Freddie*
2662) Henry Mancini - Breakfast at Tiffany's*
2677) Freddie Hubbard - Red Clay
2680) Albert King - Live Wire/Blues Power
2688) Elvis Presley - How Great Thou Art*
2689) Blondie - Plastic Letters*
2711) Bob Seger - Stranger in Town*
2736) Rod Stewart - A Night on the Town*
2743) Bill Evans - Conversations with Myself*
2745) Cabaret Voltaire - Red Mecca*
*reentries

20 highest ranked album to fall off the AM3000 (previous rank in brackets):

Suprême NTM - Paris sous les bombes (2188)
Kaiser Chiefs - Employment (2260)
Téléphone - Un autre monde (2310)
Foals - Antidotes (2327)
Beyoncé - Dangerously in Love (2373)
Madonna - Confessions on a Dance Floor (2386)
Rheostatics - Whale Music (2401)
Scarface - The Fix (2407)
Beach House - Devotion (2432)
Sloan - Twice Removed (2438)
Low - The Great Destroyer (2446)
The Tragically Hip - Up to Here (2447)
Devendra Banhart - Cripple Crow (2455)
Clipse - Lord Willin' (2487)
Depeche Mode - Speak & Spell (2532)
Viktor Vaughn - Vaudeville Villain (2553)
Broadcast - The Noise Made by People (2556)
Red Hot Chili Peppers - One Hot Minute (2571)
British Sea Power - The Decline of British Sea Power (2577)
Blue Rodeo - Five Days in July (2593)
Prince & The New Power Generation - Diamonds and Pearls (2594)
Peter Bjorn and John - Writer's Block (2600)
Super Furry Animals - Phantom Power (2607)
Boris - Pink (2612)
Ellen Allien - Berlinette (2614)

Not too happy about Suprême NTM and Boris... And strange to see Beach House getting 2 albums entering directly in the top 1000 but having Devotion kicked out of the AM3000 !

Biggest climbers (# of places won between brackets) :

2041) Lennie Tristano & Tadd Dameron - Crosscurrents (793)
1896) Henry Mancini - The Pink Panther (770)
1965) Julie London - Julie Is Her Name (708)
2273) Mahalia Jackson - Newport 1958 (681)
1995) Henry Mancini - The Music from Peter Gunn (646)
1970) Bill Evans - Portrait in Jazz (614)
2263) Dinah Washington - What a Diff'rence a Day Makes! (605)
2364) Jacques Brel - Brel (592)
2171) Grant Green - Idle Moments (582)
1999) Jimmy Reed - Jimmy Reed at Carnegie Hall (536)
1984) Boz Scaggs - Boz Scaggs (524)
2340) Bee Gees - Odessa (521)
2443) Hound Dog Taylor and the Houserockers - Hound Dog Taylor and the Houserockers (512)
2286) Oscar Peterson - Oscar Peterson Trio + One: Clark Terry (498)
1916) Charles Mingus - Let My Children Hear Music (496)
2414) Thelonious Monk - Thelonious Himself (491)
1351) Janet Jackson - Rhythm Nation 1814 (473)
2402) Otis Rush - Right Place, Wrong Time (473)
1923) Frank Sinatra - Where Are You? (468)
2504) Wayne Shorter - The All Seeing Eye (464)
2036) Lambert, Hendricks and Ross - Sing a Song of Basie (448)
1783) Lester Young with the Oscar Peterson Trio - The President Plays with the Oscar Peterson Trio (447)
2415) Gilberto Gil / Jorge Ben - Ogum Xangô/Gil & Jorge (443)
1859) Louis Prima - The Wildest! (442)
2014) Lee Perry - Roast Fish Collie Weed & Corn Bread (437)
2114) Antonio Carlos Jobim - Wave (432)
2285) Eels - Electro-Shock Blues (427)
1461) João Gilberto - Amoroso (422)
1850) Karen Dalton - It's So Hard to Tell You Who's Going to Love You the Best (421)
2017) Dennis Wilson - Pacific Ocean Blue (419)

The Rhythm Nation 1814 jump will be the cherry on top of Moonbeam's recent happy events !

Most places lost :

2410) Justin Timberlake - Justified (866)
2926) The Dandy Warhols - ...The Dandy Warhols Come Down (826)
2246) 50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin' (811)
2522) U2 - How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb (807)
2353) Mastodon - Leviathan (763)
3000) The Microphones - Mount Eerie (742)
2748) Coldplay - Viva La Vida or Death and All His Friends (737)
2383) The Raconteurs - Broken Boy Soldiers (712)
2857) Why? - Alopecia (689)
2744) Spice Girls - Spice (686)
1971) Amadou & Mariam - Dimanche à Bamako (673)
2382) The Darkness - Permission to Land (660)
2939) Ulrich Schnauss - A Strangely Isolated Place (653)
2973) Vitalic - OK Cowboy (641)
1880) Muse - Absolution (637)
2209) Bruce Springsteen - Magic (628)
2721) Uncle Tupelo - No Depression (616)
2632) Young Disciples - Road to Freedom (606)
2877) Sheryl Crow - Sheryl Crow (604)
2657) You Am I - Hi Fi Way (601)
2979) The Guess Who - American Woman (589)
2615) Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - B.R.M.C. (585)
2204) Muse - Black Holes & Revelations (580)
2955) M. Ward - Transfiguration of Vincent (577)
1983) Kings of Leon - Youth and Young Manhood (562)
2180) Dungen - Ta Det Lugnt (561)
2535) Mary J. Blige - What's the 411? (561)
2695) Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Show Your Bones (560)
2737) Smashing Pumpkins - Gish (556)
2713) Broadcast - Tender Buttons (555)

Tough update for Muse (Origin of Symmetry lost 400 ranks too)

New entries in the top 1000 (except 2010-2012 albums):

823) Stan Getz & Charlie Byrd - Jazz Samba
907) Bill Callahan - Sometimes I Wish We Were An Eagle
919) The Isley Brothers - 3+3
926) Roxy Music - Country Life
929) Culture - Two Sevens Clash
943) Frank Sinatra - Come Fly with Me
963) Gene Clark - No Other
967) Sam Cooke - Night Beat
968) Sonny Rollins - A Night at the "Village Vanguard"
973) Yardbirds - Yardbirds/Over Under Sideways Down/Roger the Engineer
976) Sonny Rollins - Way Out West
977) The Damned - Damned Damned Damned
978) The Upsetters - Super Ape
979) Paul Simon - Still Crazy After All These Years
980) John Coltrane - Ascension
981) Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
984) Ella Fitzgerald - Ella Fitzgerald Sings the George and Ira Gershwin Songbook
985) Charles Mingus - Tijuana Moods/New Tijuana Moods
987) 13th Floor Elevators - The Psychedelic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators
988) Rod Stewart - Gasoline Alley
994) Tito Puente - Dance Mania
998) Steve Earle - Guitar Town
999) Fela and Africa 70 - Zombie

The 3 Built to Spill ranked albums gain some ranks but none enough to crack the top 1000...

New entries in the top 500 (except 2010-2012 albums)
and thus albums who won't be eligible anymore for next moderately acclaimed poll :
448) The Wailers - Burnin'
467) Dirty Projectors - Bitte Orca
476) The B-52's - The B-52's
488) The Replacements - Tim
495) Thelonious Monk - Brilliant Corners
496) Talk Talk - Laughing Stock
497) Joni Mitchell - Hejira
498) Traffic - John Barleycorn Must Die

Albums falling out of the top 500 :

501) At the Drive-In - Relationship of Command
502) Oliver Nelson - The Blues and the Abstract Truth
503) Cream - Wheels of Fire
504) Kraftwerk - Computerwelt
505) David Bowie - Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)
507) The Prodigy - The Fat of the Land
513) Pet Shop Boys - Behaviour
514) Lloyd Cole and The Commotions - Rattlesnakes
515) Roxy Music - Avalon
521) TLC - CrazySexyCool
525) Green Day - American Idiot
530) Soul II Soul - Club Classics Vol. One/Keep On Movin'
536) Bloc Party - Silent Alarm
542) Peter Gabriel - Peter Gabriel (III)
544) Suede - Suede
569) Brian Wilson - SMiLE
570) Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever to Tell
576) Radiohead - Hail to the Thief

I hope Relationship of Command and Computer World can get back there next year

New entries in the top 200 :

125) Frank Ocean - Channel Orange
175) Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
183) Public Image Ltd. - Metal Box/Second Edition
185) The Original Soundtrack - The Harder They Come
190) Prince and The Revolution - 1999
191) The Mothers of Invention - We're Only in It for the Money
192) Rage Against the Machine - Rage Against the Machine
193) Marvin Gaye - Let's Get It On
198) Beastie Boys - Licensed to Ill
199) Hüsker Dü - Zen Arcade

Albums kicked out of the top 200 :

201) Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not
202) Neil Young with Crazy Horse - Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
205) The Smiths - The Smiths
206) Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
207) MC5 - Kick Out the Jams
208) Amy Winehouse - Back to Black
210) The Beatles - A Hard Day's Night
211) Metallica - Metallica ("The Black Album")
222) Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
235) The Human League - Dare!

With the drop of Dare!, 2008 is now the only of the past 50 years with a worse #1 album rank than 1981

New top 100 albums :

96) Dusty Springfield - Dusty in Memphis
99) The White Stripes - Elephant
100) Michael Jackson - Off the Wall

Albums out of top 100 :

101) Tom Waits - Swordfishtrombones
103) Pixies - Surfer Rosa
107) Pink Floyd - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn

Years with new #1 album :

1957 : Little Richard - Here's Little Richard over The Crickets - The "Chirping" Crickets
1966 (obviously) : Revolver instead of Pet Sounds
1995 : Oasis - (What's the Story) Morning Glory? over Radiohead - The Bends

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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by Mattceinicram » Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:27 pm

I knew Channel Orange would be high, but wasn't expecting it to be that high, and definitely not to be higher than Suburbs and MBDTF!
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Post by Listyguy » Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:31 pm

Some other changes I saw:
-Kid A is now the top album of the 2000's, overtaking Funeral and Is This It
-The Blueprint enters the top 200 (you missed that one on your list)
-Toys in the Attic plummets out of the top 150 to 361 (behind Rocks!)
-Sweet Child O' Mine (my favorite song) falls outside the top 100 :(
-Where Did You Sleep Last Night (Nirvana version) now just bubbling under
-When the Levee Breaks goes from a bubbler to 1254
-Nightswimming nowhere to be found (was it here before? I can't remember)

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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by Nassim » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:11 pm

Listyguy wrote:Some other changes I saw:
-The Blueprint enters the top 200 (you missed that one on your list)
-Toys in the Attic plummets out of the top 150 to 361 (behind Rocks!)
The Blueprint moved from 183 to 180, it was already top 200
Toy in the Attic never was top 150, it was 359 before the update ! (it's true though that it has been taken over by Rocks which was 396)

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Post by Listyguy » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:17 pm

Nassim wrote:
Listyguy wrote:Some other changes I saw:
-The Blueprint enters the top 200 (you missed that one on your list)
-Toys in the Attic plummets out of the top 150 to 361 (behind Rocks!)
The Blueprint moved from 183 to 180, it was already top 200
Toy in the Attic never was top 150, it was 359 before the update ! (it's true though that it has been taken over by Rocks which was 396)
It appears you're correct. I'm not sure why I thought I hadn't listened to the Blueprint (I listened to every album in the top 200 last year). I guess I must have blocked it out of my mind. :whistle:

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Post by Nassim » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:54 pm

By the way, here are the artists with a top 2000 album who now have a new #1 album :

Kanye West : My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (new entry) over The College Dropout
Frank Sinatra : Songs for Swingin' Lovers! over In the Wee Small Hours
TV on the Radio : Dear Science over Return to Cookie Mountain
Bon Iver : Bon Iver (new entry) over For Emma, Forever Ago
The National : High Violet (new entry) over Boxer
Richard and Linda Thompson : I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight over Shoot Out the Lights
Aerosmith : Rocks over Toys in the Attic
Boards of Canada : Music Has the Right to Children over Geogaddi
Deerhunter : Halcyon Digest (new entry) over Microcastle / Weird Era Cont.
Built to Spill : Perfect from Now On over There's Nothing Wrong with Love
M83 : Hurry Up, We're Dreaming (new entry) over Saturdays = Youth
Girls : Father, Son, Holy Ghost (new entry) over Album
Kings of Leon : Aha Shake Heartbreak over Youth and Young Manhood
The Cult : Electric over Sonic Temple
Lenny Kravitz : Let Love Rule over Mama Said
dEUS : The Ideal Crash over Worst Case Scenario
Mekons : Fear and Whiskey over The Mekons Rock'n'roll
Mastodon : Crack The Skye over Leviathan
Jimmy Smith : Back at the Chicken Shack over The Sermon!
St. Vincent : Strange Mercy (new entry) over Actor
Grinderman : Grinderman 2 (new entry) over Grinderman
Jorge Ben : África Brasil over Samba Esquema Novo
Dizzy Gillespie : At Newport over Groovin' High
Flying Lotus : Cosmogramma (new entry) over Los Angeles
Swans : The Seer (new entry) over Children of God
Fiona Apple : The Idler Wheel… over Tidal
Robyn : Body Talk (new entry) over Robyn
The Sisters of Mercy : Floodland over First and Last and Always
Fucked Up : David Comes to Life (new entry) over The Chemistry of Common Life
The Residents : Eskimo over Commercial Album
Camera Obscura : My Maudlin Career over Let's Get Out Of This Country
Art Ensemble of Chicago : Les Stances a Sophie over People in Sorrow
The Jon Spencer Blues Explosion : Now I Got Worry over ACME
El-P : Cancer 4 Cure (new entry) over Fantastic Damage
Everything But the Girl : Walking Wounded over Eden
Japandroids : Celebration Rock (new entry) over Post-Nothing
The Black Keys : Brothers (new entry) over Rubber Factory
Destroyer : Kaputt (new entry) over Destroyer's Rubies
The Wedding Present : Seamonsters over George Best
Foals : Total Life Forever (new entry) over Antidotes (now bubbling)
Beach House : Teen Dream (new entry) over Devotion (now bubbling)
Caribou : Swim (new entry) over Andorra
Julian Cope : Peggy Suicide over Fried
Don Henley : The End of the Innocence over Building the Perfect Beast
Lykke Li : Wounded Rhymes (new entry) over Youth Novels
Cabaret Voltaire : Red Mecca over Mix-Up
Henry Mancini : The Pink Panther over The Music from Peter Gunn
Yeasayer : Odd Blood (new entry) over All Hour Cymbals (now bubbling)
Pantha du Prince : Black Noise (new entry) over This Bliss (now bubbling)
Motorpsycho : Demon Box over Timothy's Monster


I'm quite surprised for TV on the Radio (and for Boards of Canada, but in this case just surprised Geogaddi was #1 before the update. Also surprised that the Ideal Crash did not take the first place among dEUS albums earlier).
It's a shame for Kings of Leon, Youth and Young Manhood is their only good album.
Not sure if Halcyon Digest can stay for long over Microcastle, time will tell !
And Perfect From Now On as best Built to Spill album is fine with me too, though both (and Keep it Like a Secret) should be higher.

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Post by Harold » Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:52 pm

Nassim wrote: I'm quite surprised for TV on the Radio (and for Boards of Canada, but in this case just surprised Geogaddi was #1 before the update.
Geogaddi's higher ranking last time around can probably be attributed to what was apparently a somewhat higher weight given to the end-of-decade lists for the 2000s. Albums from 2000-2009, by and large, took significant hits in this update; in those rare instances where one's ranking actually improved, it's likely because that album appeared on one or more of the other lists that were added (e.g., the most recent edition of 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die).

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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by notdarkyet » Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:40 pm

Ooh, ooh! Now do the changes for the singles list! :P

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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by Mattceinicram » Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:15 am

Nassim wrote:By the way, here are the artists with a top 2000 album who now have a new #1 album :


Frank Sinatra : Songs for Swingin' Lovers! over In the Wee Small Hours
Aerosmith : Rocks over Toys in the Attic
These kind of surprise me a little
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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by Gillingham » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:11 am

Yes, I think I can remember Geogaddi overtaking Music Has the Right to Children in the previous update (probably). I think both are regarded at about the same height. Looking forward to see the placement of Tomorrow's Harvest. Probably not as high as those two, but in the top 3000 nevertheless.

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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by notdarkyet » Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:12 pm

I only went back 500 spots in the singles list but by that point they seemed to have all but dried up. Here's an approximate list of singles entering the top 1000 not including 2010-2012.

607 John Lennon Working Class Hero 1970
644 The Contours Do You Love Me 1962
688 The Velvet Underground Venus in Furs 1967 Listen
700 Toots and The Maytals 54 46 (Was My Number) 1969 Listen
712 The Count Five Psychotic Reaction 1966
728 Led Zeppelin Immigrant Song 1970 Listen
731 Elvis Presley All Shook Up 1957
780 Bob Marley and The Wailers One Love/People Get Ready 1977 Listen
781 Weather Report Birdland 1977
785 Dion The Wanderer 1961
807 Suicide Frankie Teardrop 1977 Listen
824 Count Basie One O'Clock Jump 1937
825 Coleman Hawkins Body and Soul 1939
829 James Brown Cold Sweat 1967
856 Parliament Tear the Roof Off the Sucker (Give Up the Funk) 1975
863 Van Morrison Into the Mystic 1970 Listen
866 The Avalanches Frontier Psychiatrist 2000
867 Billy Bragg A New England 1983 Listen
869 Iggy Pop The Passenger 1977 Listen
873 The Trashmen Surfin' Bird 1963
875 David Bowie Let's Dance 1983
876 Kelis Caught Out There 1999 Listen
879 Big Star Thirteen 1972 Listen
881 Simon and Garfunkel America 1968 Listen
889 Michael Jackson Thriller 1982 Listen
893 Gil Scott-Heron The Revolution Will Not Be Televised 1971 Listen
895 Tom Petty Free Fallin' 1989 Listen
902 Brenda Lee I'm Sorry 1960
903 Curtis Mayfield Superfly 1972 Listen
906 The Beatles Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds 1967
909 Led Zeppelin Heartbreaker 1969 Listen
910 Bob Marley and The Wailers Redemption Song 1980 Listen
911 KC and The Sunshine Band That's the Way (I Like It) 1975
912 Sylvester You Make me Feel (Mighty Real) 1978
919 The Monotones Book of Love 1957
921 Fleetwood Mac Oh Well 1969 Listen
924 Johnny Kidd and The Pirates Shakin' All Over 1960
925 Fats Waller Ain't Misbehavin' 1929
928 The Beatles Day Tripper 1965
929 The Staple Singers I'll Take You There 1972 Listen
930 Martha and The Vandellas Nowhere to Run 1965
932 Joy Division She's Lost Control
933 Everything But the Girl Missing (Todd Terry Remix) 1995 Listen
934 Little Richard Lucille 1957
935 Faces Stay with Me 1972 Listen
943 The Chantays Pipeline 1962
960 Bob Dylan Ballad of a Thin Man 1965 Listen
961 The Beatles I Saw Her Standing There 1963
962 The Chiffons One Fine Day 1963
963 Fugees Ready or Not 1996 Listen
967 Busta Rhymes Woo-Hah!! Got You All in Check 1996
968 Donovan Season of the Witch 1966 Listen
970 Sly and the Family Stone I Want to Take You Higher 1969 Listen
972 The Beatles All You Need Is Love 1967
973 The Who Pinball Wizard 1969 Listen
975 Junior Senior Move Your Feet 2002
980 Arthur Conley Sweet Soul Music 1967
984 The Rolling Stones 19th Nervous Breakdown 1966
985 The KLF What Time Is Love? 1988 Listen
987 The Orb Little Fluffy Clouds 1990 Listen
988 Blondie Rapture 1980
992 Destiny's Child Say My Name 1999
994 The Del-Vikings Come Go with Me 1956
998 The Beatles Please Please Me 1963
1000 The Dixie Cups Chapel of Love 1964

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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by Blanco » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:30 pm

Other lists I wanted to do, focusing on the top 200 artists:

New Artist entries in the Top 200:
(Previous rank / Current rank / Name)
----- 153 Frank Ocean
245 158 Grizzly Bear
273 163 The National
421 171 Bon Iver
222 193 Serge Gainsbourg
219 194 Billie Holiday
201 196 Van Halen
205 197 Green Day
220 198 Gang of Four
213 199 John Cale
206 200 The Allman Brothers Band

Artists who left the top 200:
(Previous rank / Current rank / Name)
171 215 Weezer
174 237 Hank Williams
176 212 Arctic Monkeys
180 201 Eric B. & Rakim
182 213 Aphex Twin
184 209 Manic Street Preachers
191 216 Echo and the Bunnymen
192 204 Public Image Ltd.
198 207 Queens of the Stone Age
199 222 Suede
200 206 The Prodigy



I guess we're all surprised with the high rank from Frank Ocean. I mean, we all knew this would happen, but agh, I dunno. Does it deserve to be among the best? Is that good?

Another surprise for me was that Hank Williams was no longer in the top 200. Not that I particularly like his music, I think it is because I'm more used to seeing him among the best artists from the beginning of the last century.

Also sorry for the exclusion of Echo and the Bunnymen from the top 200. I see the top 200 as the top among the top! You know, the place where the gods lie. Although the 216 place is not bad, right?

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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by acroamor » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:28 pm

Judging by all the acclaim that ...Like Clockwork has been getting, Queens of the Stone Age will only be out of the top 200 for a few months.

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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by Nassim » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:16 pm

acroamor wrote:Judging by all the acclaim that ...Like Clockwork has been getting, Queens of the Stone Age will only be out of the top 200 for a few months.
I hope you're right !

New songs in the top 500 :

116) M83 - Midnight City (NEW)
160) Frank Ocean - Pyramids (NEW)
223) Janelle Monáe feat. Big Boi - Tightrope (NEW)
248) Lana Del Rey - Video Games (NEW)
281) Cee Lo Green - Fuck You! (NEW)
306) The Doors - The End (570)
320) Caribou - Odessa (NEW)
347) The Monkees - I'm a Believer (507)
353) Kraftwerk - Das Model (603)
355) Tyler, The Creator - Yonkers (NEW)
365) Ben E. King - Spanish Harlem (503)
370) Stan Getz and Astrud Gilberto - The Girl from Ipanema (532)
378) Japandroids - The House That Heaven Built (NEW)
380) The Killers - Mr. Brightside (505)
390) Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Round And Round (NEW)
395) Grimes - Oblivion (NEW)
406) The Miracles - You've Really Got a Hold on Me (510)
412) Leonard Cohen - Famous Blue Raincoat (705)
416) Usher - Climax (NEW)
418) Robyn - Dancing On My Own (NEW)
421) Lonnie Donegan - Rock Island Line (795)
432) The Damned - New Rose (559)
433) Roy Orbison - In Dreams (581)
434) Bobbie Gentry - Ode to Billie Joe (520)
435) The Chemical Brothers - Block Rockin' Beats (501)
439) Kate Bush - Wuthering Heights (552)
444) Kraftwerk - Trans-Europa Express (596)
448) Richard Hell & The Voidoids - Blank Generation (612)
454) The Walkmen - The Rat (538)
455) The Rolling Stones - Tumbling Dice (564)
456) Blackstreet feat. Dr. Dre - No Diggity (516)
457) Kanye West - Jesus Walks (557)
458) The Drifters - Save the Last Dance for Me (689)
460) The Tornados - Telstar (765)
462) Kelis - Milkshake (579)
471) Bo Diddley - I'm a Man (604)
472) Sam Cooke - Shake (549)
477) Steely Dan - Reeling in the Years (556)
478) New York Dolls - Personality Crisis (584)
480) The Pogues and Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale of New York (521)
481) Big Boi feat. Cutty - Shutterbugg (NEW)
482) Jay-Z feat. Alicia Keys - Empire State of Mind (611)
483) Santogold - L.E.S. Artistes (724)
485) Adele - Rolling in the Deep (NEW)
486) The Shins - New Slang (567)
487) The Hives - Hate to Say I Told You So (677)
490) The Strokes - Hard to Explain (571)
495) LCD Soundsystem - Someone Great (653)
496) Joy Division - Transmission (638)
497) Solange - Losing You (NEW)
498) Beach House - Myth (NEW)
499) Elvis Presley - In the Ghetto (590)
500) The Drifters - On Broadway (712)

And the songs that fell from it
502) Patsy Cline - I Fall to Pieces (500)
505) Junior Murvin - Police and Thieves (497)
506) Red Hot Chili Peppers - Under the Bridge (486)
507) Public Image Ltd. - Public Image (413)
511) The Who - Baba O'Riley (495)
512) Radiohead - Karma Police (459)
514) Al Green - Take Me to the River (469)
517) The Beatles - A Hard Day's Night (475)
518) The Beatles - Come Together (492)
520) Gary Numan - Cars (473)
522) The Jesus and Mary Chain - Just Like Honey (381)
523) Aerosmith - Dream On (387)
525) Elvis Costello - Alison (437)
528) Hot Chip - And I Was a Boy from School (462)
538) Madonna - Ray of Light (479)
542) The Platters - The Great Pretender (402)
545) Pearl Jam - Jeremy (460)
546) The Cure - Boys Don't Cry (493)
549) Madonna - Vogue (481)
550) Pavement - Summer Babe (401)
554) The Clash - Complete Control (426)
555) The Wailers - I Shot the Sheriff (440)
558) The Jam - That's Entertainment (436)
561) Justin Timberlake - My Love (396)
562) Eric B. & Rakim - Paid in Full (424)
563) John Coltrane - A Love Supreme, Part 1: Acknowledgement (472)
572) Lauryn Hill - Doo Wop (That Thing) (489)
575) Etta James - At Last (448)
580) The Chords - Sh-Boom (491)
581) The Jam - Down in the Tube Station at Midnight (399)
589) Mission of Burma - That's When I Reach for My Revolver (434)
593) Jackie Wilson - Lonely Teardrops (457)
594) Rob Base & DJ E-Z Rock - It Takes Two (439)
595) 10cc - I'm Not in Love (482)
603) Echo and the Bunnymen - The Killing Moon (452)
606) Bill Monroe - Blue Moon of Kentucky (369)
625) Jimmie Rodgers - Blue Yodel (T for Texas) (450)
628) Bob Dylan - Visions of Johanna (461)
634) My Bloody Valentine - Only Shallow (384)
637) Lloyd Price - Lawdy Miss Clawdy (449)
642) The Rolling Stones - Wild Horses (416)
643) AC/DC - You Shook Me All Night Long (494)
649) Pixies - Gigantic (468)
650) The Clash - Rock the Casbah (499)
656) U2 - New Year's Day (496)
660) Eric B. & Rakim - I Know You Got Soul (442)
664) Primal Scream - Higher Than the Sun (447)
678) Led Zeppelin - Rock and Roll (480)
701) Hank Williams - Your Cheatin' Heart (376)
704) Ramones - I Wanna Be Sedated (467)
705) Happy Mondays - Step On (498)
755) Augustus Pablo - King Tubby Meets the Rockers Uptown (483)
779) Fairport Convention - Who Knows Where the Time Goes (455)

Entering the top 100
77) James Brown - Get Up (I Feel Like Being a) Sex Machine (112)
85) Dionne Warwick - Walk On By (103)
87) The Byrds - Eight Miles High (107)
90) Rod Stewart - Maggie May (109)
91) The Who - Won't Get Fooled Again (126)
97) The Beatles - She Loves You (114)
98) Gene Vincent and His Blue Caps - Be-Bop-a-Lula (116)

And leaving the top 100
101) Creedence Clearwater Revival - Proud Mary (68)
103) Run-D.M.C. - Walk This Way (94)
104) Guns N' Roses - Sweet Child O' Mine (90)
106) Wilson Pickett - In the Midnight Hour (100)
107) The Temptations - My Girl (96)
118) Van Morrison - Brown Eyed Girl (98)
121) Public Enemy - Fight the Power (95)

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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by Nassim » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:41 pm

Full list of Artists with new #1 song
Daniel got 59 out of 70, if he didn't use an excel formula that's quite impressive !

A Tribe Called Quest : Bonita Applebum Check the Rhime
AC/DC : Back in Black You Shook Me All Night Long
Adam and The Ants : Kings of the Wild Frontier Stand and Deliver
Al Jolson : Swanee My Mammy
Basement Jaxx : Where's Your Head At Red Alert
Black Box : Ride On Time Everybody Everybody
Bobby Bland : I Pity the Fool Turn On Your Love Light
Bon Iver : Holocene Skinny Love
Brian Eno : Baby's on Fire Cindy Tells Me
Caribou : Odessa Melody Day
Charlie Rich : Lonely Weekends Behind Closed Doors
Chuck Willis : C.C. Rider It's Too Late
Cypress Hill : How I Could Just Kill a Man Insane in the Brain
Deerhunter : Helicopter Nothing Ever Happened
Dexys Midnight Runners : Geno Come On Eileen
Dick Dale : Miserlou Let's Go Trippin'
Donovan : Season of the Witch Sunshine Superman
Eminem : Stan Lose Yourself
Genesis : I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe) The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
Grateful Dead : Box of Rain Dark Star
Green Day : American Idiot Longview
Guided by Voices : I Am a Scientist Game of Pricks
Huey "Piano" Smith & The Clowns : Rockin' Pneumonia & the Boogie Woogie Flu Don't You Just Know It
Ian Dury and The Blockheads : Hit Me with Your Rhythm Stick Reasons to Be Cheerful, Part 3
Japandroids : The House That Heaven Built Young Hearts Spark Fire
Jr. Walker & The All Stars : (I'm a) Road Runner Shotgun
Justin Timberlake : Cry Me a River My Love
Kanye West : Jesus Walks Gold Digger
LCD Soundsystem : Losing My Edge All My Friends
Liquid Liquid : Cavern Optimo
Lloyd Price : Stagger Lee Lawdy Miss Clawdy
Lykke Li : I Follow Rivers Little Bit
M83 : Midnight City Kim & Jessie
MGMT : Time to Pretend Kids
Ministry : Jesus Built My Hot Rod Stigmata
My Bloody Valentine : You Made Me Realise Only Shallow
Nelly Furtado : Promiscuous Maneater
Nick Drake : Way to Blue River Man
Nina Simone : My Baby Just Cares for Me To Be Young, Gifted and Black
Parliament : Tear the Roof Off the Sucker (Give Up the Funk) Flash Light
Paul Revere & The Raiders : Hungry Just Like Me
Pavement : Cut Your Hair Summer Babe
Pere Ubu : Non-Alignment Pact Final Solution
Pete Seeger : We Shall Overcome Where Have All the Flowers Gone
Prince and The New Power Generation : Cream Gett Off
Raspberries : Go All the Way Overnight Sensation (Hit Record)
Robert Wyatt : Shipbuilding Sea Song
Robyn : Dancing On My Own Be Mine
Sade : Smooth Operator Your Love Is King
Santana : Oye Como Va Black Magic Woman
Scissor Sisters : I Don't Feel Like Dancin' Take Your Mama
Slayer : Raining Blood Angel of Death
Steve Miller Band : Fly Like an Eagle The Joker
Suede : Animal Nitrate The Drowners
Sugababes : Freak Like Me Overload
Sweet : Ballroom Blitz Blockbuster
Talk Talk : It's My Life Life's What You Make It
The Allman Brothers Band : Ramblin' Man Whipping Post
The National : Bloodbuzz Ohio Mr. November
The Style Council : Long Hot Summer My Ever Changing Moods
The The : Uncertain Smile This Is the Day
The Young Rascals : Good Lovin' Groovin'
Tom Waits : Downtown Train Jockey Full of Bourbon
Traffic : Paper Sun Dear Mr. Fantasy
War : Slippin' Into Darkness Low Rider
Weezer : Buddy Holly Say It Ain't So
Willie Nelson : Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain Always on My Mind
Wu-Tang Clan : C.R.E.A.M. (Cash Rules Everything Around Me) Protect Ya Neck
Yeasayer : O.N.E. 2080
ZZ Top : Gimme All Your Lovin' La Grange

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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by Bruno » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:53 pm

Great job, guys!

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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by Listyguy » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:42 pm

I find it strange that "Way to Blue" is Nick Drake's most acclaimed song. I prefer a majority of his songs to that one.

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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by Nassim » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:00 am

More useless stats :

The band with the most songs in the AM3000 is without any surprise the Beatles with 46 songs far ahead of Dylan with 31. The Rolling Stones come 3rd with 28 songs, the same amount of Beatles songs in the top 1000!

More surprisingly I guess, the artist with the most albums is Miles Davis with 26, quite far behind comes and Coltrane with 19 each.

The year with the most songs is 1967 with 91 songs followed by 1966 and 1969 with 85 each.
The year with the most albums is 1970 with 85 followed by 1969 with 81 and 72 with 79 (while 79 has 72 albums !)

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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by Nassim » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:16 pm

Albums by decades :
40s : 4 (0.13%)
50s : 181 (6%)
60s : 462 (15.4%)
70s : 720 (24%)
80s : 538 (17.9%)
90s : 533 (17.8%)
2000s : 433 (14.4%)
2010s : 129 (4.3%)

The average number of album per year since 1960 is 53, the low point, except for the early 60s, being 2009 with 33 albums (though it might be due to many EOD lists published in mid 2009 and thus including very few 2009 albums... Pitchfork only had 3 in their top 200 if I remember well). You have to go back to 1998 to find a year above the average.

Songs by decades :

1900s : 1 (0.03%)
10s : 2 (0,07%)
20s : 29 (1%)
30s : 37 (1.2%)
40s : 50 (1.7%)
50s : 229 (7.6%)
60s : 618 (20.6%)
70s : 599 (20%)
80s : 485 (16.2%)
90s : 433 (14.4%)
2000s : 399 (13.3%)
2010s : 118 (3.9%)

Low point of the past 50 years is 1996 with only 31 songs.

It seems that we have a new best French song, M83's Midnight City (and Serge Gainsbourg & Jane Birkin's Je T'Aime Moi Non Plus) taking over Daft Punk's One More Time
Ritchie Valens' La Bamba no longer is the highest ranked song not in English since it lost 40 ranks and is now behind Kraftwerk's Autobahn (and Serge Gainsbourg & Jane Birkin's Je T'Aime Moi Non Plus)

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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by Blanco » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:02 am

Nassim wrote:Ritchie Valens' La Bamba no longer is the highest ranked song not in English
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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by chet_baker » Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:01 pm

THE KING IS DEAD. LONG LIVE THE KING!

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Post by Jackson » Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:37 pm

Listyguy wrote:I find it strange that "Way to Blue" is Nick Drake's most acclaimed song. I prefer a majority of his songs to that one.
I completely agree on this one. I've listened to Five Leaves Left quite a few times and I can't even remember what this song sounds like. I would think "River Man" and "Pink Moon" would be his most acclaimed.

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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by chet_baker » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:01 pm

Bit of a meaningless statistic but for the record(s), The Beatles have overtaken Radiohead as the band / artist with the most album-of-the-year records.

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Post by Henrik » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:07 pm

chet_baker wrote:Bit of a meaningless statistic but for the record(s), The Beatles have overtaken Radiohead as the band / artist with the most album-of-the-year records.
It's quite an impressive run they have from 1963 to 1969: 3 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 1
The songs are not that high: 3 - 17 - 7 - 12 - 2 - 4 - 15
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Post by chet_baker » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:04 pm

3 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 9 if you include solo work

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Re: Comparing the new update

Post by acroamor » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:49 pm

For a completely useless fun fact about the new update, the 1987th album of all-time is from 1987 and the 2008th album of all-time is from 2008.

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