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Greatest Really Long Rock Songs

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I'm working on a new list for Digital Dream Door. To qualify the song has to be at least 10 minutes long. Any suggestions are welcome. I don't want to miss anything, especially newer stuff that I may not be aware of.

CRITERIA - Songs must be 10 minutes or longer. This means on their original release either on an album, EP or a single - remixes do not count. Songs were chosen and ranked based on initial and lasting popularity, acclaim and influence. Live versions of songs that were less than 10 minutes when done first in the studio were only included if they became significant in their own right. Songs that reached 10 minutes only because of an extended jam at the end will receive less credit than songs that legitimitely exceeded 10 minutes without an extended jam. Also, songs that were edited down into a shorter version will lose some credit.

BY ARTIST
Agalloch – In the Shadow of Our Pale Companion [The Mantle]
The Allman Brothers Band – In Memory of Elizabeth Reed (live) [At Fillmore East]
The Allman Brothers Band – Mountain Jam (live) [Eat a Peach]
The Allman Brothers Band – Whipping Post (live) [At Fillmore East]
The Allman Brothers Band – You Don't Love Me (live) [At Fillmore East]
Amon Düül II – Phallus Dei [Phallus Dei]
Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe – Brother of Mine [Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe]
Änglagård – Jordrök [Hybris]
Änglagård – Kung Bore [Hybris]
Änglagård – Ur vilande [Viljans öga]
Animal Collective – Visiting Friends [Sung Tongs]
Archive – Again [You All Look the Same to Me] [UK: #159]
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso – L'evoluzione [Darwin!]
Basic Channel – Octagon [Octagon EP]
Beastie Boys – B-Boy Bouillabaisse [Paul's Boutique]
The Beta Band – Monolith [The Patty Patty Sound]
Biglietto per l'Inferno – L'amico suicida [Biglietto per l'inferno]
Black Sabbath – Warning [Black Sabbath]
Blind Faith – Do What You Like [Blind Faith]
Blood, Sweat & Tears – Blues - Part II [Blood, Sweat & Tears]
Bloomfield-Kooper-Stills – Season of the Witch [Super Session]
Boredoms – Super Going [Super æ] [uncharted]
Boredoms – Super Shine [Super æ]
Boris – Feedbacker [Boris at Last -Feedbacker-]
David Bowie – Station to Station [Station to Station]
James Brown – Escape-ism [Hot Pants] [Hot 100: #25 | R&B: #6]
James Brown – Get Up I Feel Like Being a Sex Machine (live) [Sex Machine]
James Brown – It's a Man's Man's Man's World (live) [Live at the Apollo, Volume II]
James Brown – Lost Someone (live) [Live at the Apollo] [Hot 100: #94]
James Brown – Medley: Let Yourself Go/There Was a Time/I Feel All Right (live) [Live at the Apollo, Volume II]
James Brown – Mind Power [The Payback]
James Brown – Sex Machine Part I and Part II (live) [Sex Machine Today] [R&B: #16]
Jeff Buckley – The Way Young Lovers Do (live) [Live at Sin-é EP]
Tim Buckley – Gypsy Woman [Happy Sad]
Tim Buckley – Love from Room 109 at the Islander (On Pacific Coast Highway) [Happy Sad]
Burial – Ashtray Wasp [Kindred EP]
Burial – Kindred [Kindred EP]
The Butterfield Blues Band – East-West [East-West]
Gary Byrd & the G.B. Experience – The Crown [single] [UK: #6]
Can – Aumgn [Tago Mago]
Can – Bel Air [Future Days]
Can – Halleluhwah [Tago Mago]
Can – Mother Sky [Soundtracks]
Can – Peking O [Tago Mago]
Can – Soup [Ege Bamyasi]
Can – Yoo Doo Right [Monster Movie]
Caravan – Nine Feet Underground [In the Land of Grey and Pink]
Cat Power – Nothin' But Time [Sun]
Cerrone – Love in C Minor [Love in C Minor] [Hot 100: #36 | R&B: #29 | Dance: #2 | UK: #31]
Cerrone – Supernature [Supernature] [Hot 100: #70 | R&B: #72 | Dance: #1 | UK: #8 | Ireland: #11 etc.]
The Chambers Brothers – Time Has Come Today [The Time Has Come] [Hot 100: #11]
Chen Shinki – Farewell to Hypocrites [Chen Shinki & His Friends]
Joe Cocker – Blue Medley: I'll Drown in My Own Tears/When Something Is Wrong with My Baby/I've Been Loving You Too Long (live) [Mad Dogs and Englishmen]
Cream – Crossroads (live) [Wheels of Fire] [Hot 100: #28]
Cream – Toad (live) [Wheels of Fire]
Creedence Clearwater Revival – I Heard It Through the Grapevine [Cosmo's Factory]
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young – Carry On (live) [4 Way Street]
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young – Southern Man (live) [4 Way Street]
Cymande – Dove [Cymande]
Dadawah – Seventy-Two Nations [Peace and Love]
Daft Punk – Too Long [Discovery]
Dan Deacon – Wham City [Spiderman of the Rings]
The Decemberists – The Crane Wife 1 & 2 [The Crane Wife]
The Decemberists – The Island [The Crane Wife]
Deep Purple – Child in Time [Deep Purple in Rock]
Deep Purple – Child in Time (live) [Made in Japan]
Deep Purple – Lazy (live) [Made in Japan]
Deep Purple – Space Truckin' (live) [Made in Japan]
Deerhunter – Calvary Scars II/Aux. Out [Microcastle/Weird Era Cont.]
Destroyer – Bay of Pigs (Detail) [Kaputt]
Dinosaur – Kiss Me Again [single] [uncharted]
Dire Straits – Telegraph Road [Love over Gold]
DJ Shadow – What Does Your Soul Look Like (Part 2) [single] [UK: #59]
The Doors – The End [The Doors]
The Doors – When the Music's Over [Strange Days]
Bob Dylan – Brownsville Girl [Knocked Out Loaded]
Bob Dylan – Desolation Row [Highway 61 Revisited]
Bob Dylan – Highlands [Time Out of Mind]
Bob Dylan – Joey [Desire]
Bob Dylan – Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands [Blonde on Blonde]
Bob Dylan – Tempest [Tempest]
Edge of Sanity – Crimson [Crimson]
Jay Electronica – Act I: Eternal Sunshine (The Pledge) [Act I: Eternal Sunshine (The Pledge) EP]
Emeralds – Genetic [Does It Look Like I'm Here?]
Emerson, Lake & Palmer – Karn Evil 9 [Brain Salad Surgery]
Emerson, Lake & Palmer – Take a Pebble [Emerson, Lake & Palmer]
Emerson, Lake & Palmer – Tarkus [Tarkus]
Brian Eno – 1/1 [Ambient 1: Music for Airports]
Brian Eno – 1/2 [Ambient 1: Music for Airports]
Fairport Convention – A Sailor's Life [Unhalfbricking]
The Fall – And This Day [Hex Enduction Hour]
Fennesz – Happy Audio [Endless Summer]
The Field – The Deal [From Here We Go Sublime]
Roberta Flack – I Can See the Sun in Late December [Feel Like Makin' Love]
Peter Frampton – Do You Feel Like We Do (live) [Frampton Comes Alive!] [Hot 100: #10 | UK: #39]
Frankie Goes to Hollywood – Welcome to the Pleasuredome [Welcome to the Pleasuredome] [Hot 100: #48 | UK: #2 | Germany: #9 etc.]
Aretha Franklin – Amazing Grace (live) [Amazing Grace]
Fuck Buttons – Olympians [Tarot Sport] [uncharted]
Fuck Buttons – Surf Solar [Tarot Sport] [uncharted]
Funkadelic – Funkentelechy [Funkentelechy vs. the Placebo Syndrome] [uncharted]
Funkadelic – Maggot Brain [Maggot Brain]
Funkadelic – (Not Just) Knee Deep [Uncle Jam Wants You] [Hot 100: #77 | R&B: #1 | Dance: #43]
Funkadelic – Promentalshitbackwashpsychosis Enema Squad (The Doo Doo Chasers) [One Nation Under a Groove]
Genesis – Supper's Ready [Foxtrot]
Genesis – The Battle of Epping Forest [Selling England by the Pound]
Genesis – The Cinema Show [Selling England by the Pound]
Genesis – The Musical Boy [Nursery Cryme]
Godspeed You Black Emperor! – Antennas to Heaven [Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven]
Godspeed You Black Emperor! – East Hastings [F-sharp, A-sharp, Infinity]
Godspeed You Black Emperor! – Sleep [Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven]
Godspeed You Black Emperor! – Static [Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven]
Godspeed You Black Emperor! – Storm [Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven]
Godspeed You! Black Emperor – We Drift Like Worried Fire ['Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend!]
Goldie – Sea of Tears [Timeless]
Goldie – Still Life [Timeless]
Goldie – Timeless: Inner City Life/Pressure/Jah [Timeless]
Gong – Flying Teapot [Flying Teapot]
Grand Funk Railroad – I'm Your Captain (Closer to Home) [Closer to Home] [Hot 100: #22 | Canada: #21]
Grandmaster Flash – Flash to the Beat [single] [uncharted]
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five – Superappin' [single] [uncharted]
Grateful Dead – Dark Star (live) [Live/Dead]
Grateful Dead – Death Don't Have No Mercy (live) [Live/Dead]
Grateful Dead – Turn On You Love Light (live) [Live/Dead]
Guns N' Roses – Coma [Use Your Illusion I]
Arlo Guthrie – Alice's Restaurant Massacree [Alice's Restaurant]
George Harrison – Out of the Blue [All Things Must Pass]
Isaac Hayes – By the Time I Get to Phoenix [Hot Buttered Soul] [Hot 100: #37 | R&B: #37]
Isaac Hayes – Do Your Thing [Shaft]
Isaac Hayes – I Stand Accused [The Isaac Hayes Movement] [Hot 100: #42 | R&B: #23]
Isaac Hayes – Walk On By [Hot Buttered Soul] [Hot 100: #30 | R&B: #13]
The Jimi Hendrix Experience – 1983... (A Merman I Should Turn to Be) [Electric Ladyland]
Jimi Hendrix – Machine Gun (live) [Band of Gypsys]
Jimi Hendrix – Medley: Star Spangled Banner/Purple Haze/Instrumental Solo (live) [Woodstock]
The Jimi Hendrix Experience – Voodoo Chile [Electric Ladyland]
Hüsker Dü – Reoccurring Dreams [Zen Arcade]
Ijahman – Jah Is No Secret [Haile I Hymn (Chapter 1)]
The Incredible String Band – A Very Cellular Song [The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter]
Iron Butterfly – In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida [In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida] [Hot 100: #30]
Jane's Addiction – Three Days [Ritual de lo habitual] [uncharted]
Fred Wesley & the J.B.'s – Doing It to Death [Doing It to Death] [Hot 100: #22 | R&B: #1]
Jethro Tull – Baker St. Muse [Minstrel in the Gallery]
Jethro Tull – Thick as a Brick [Thick as a Brick]
Elton John – Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding [Goodbye Yellow Brick Road]
King Crimson – Lizard [Lizard]
King Crimson – Moonchild [In the Court of the Crimson King]
King Crimson – Starless [Red]
Kiss – 100,000 Years (live) [Alive!]
The Knife – Old Dreams Waiting to Be Realized [Shaking the Habitual]
Kraftwerk – Autobahn [Autobahn] [Hot 100: #25 | UK: #11 | Canada: #12 | Germany: #9 | Ireland: #20]
Kendrick Lamar – Sing About Me, I'm Dying of Thirst [good kid, m.A.A.d. city]
Led Zeppelin – Achilles Last Stand [Presence]
Led Zeppelin – Carouselambra [In Through the Out Door]
Led Zeppelin – In My Time of Dying [Physical Graffiti]
Lindstrøm – Where You Go I Go Too [Where You Go I Go Too]
Luomo – Tessio [Vocalcity] [uncharted]
Lynyrd Skynyrd – Free Bird (live) [One More from the Road] [Hot 100: #38]
Marillion – Ocean Cloud [Marbles]
The Mars Volta – Cicatriz ESP [De-Loused in the Comatorium]
The Mars Volta – L'Via L'Viaquez [Frances the Mute] [UK: #53]
Meat Loaf – I'd Do Anything for Love (But I Won't Do That) [Bat Out of Hell II: Back into Hell] [#1 in at least 13 different countries]
Modest Mouse – Trucker's Atlas [The Lonesome Crowded West]
Mogwai – Like Herod [Mogwai Young Team]
Mogwai – Mogwai Fear Satan [Mogwai Young Team]
Morgen – Love [Morgen]
Van Morrison – Almost Independence Day [Saint Dominic's Preview]
Van Morrison – Cyprus Avenue (live) [It's Too Late to Stop Now]
Van Morrison – Listen to the Lion [Saint Dominic's Preview]
Van Morrison – Summertime in England [Common One] [UK: #98 | New Zealand: #40]
Neu! – Hallogallo [Neu!]
Joanna Newsom – Emily [Ys]
Joanna Newsom – Have One on Me [Have One on Me]
Joanna Newsom – Only Skin [Ys]
Nightwish – Ghost Love Score [Once]
Nightwish – The Poet and the Pendulum [Dark Passion Play]
Odd Future – Oldie [The OF Tape Vol. 2] [Bubbling Under R&B: #23]
of Montreal – The Past Is a Grotesque Animal [Hissing Fauna, Are You the Destroyer?]
Mike Oldfield – Ommadawn [Ommadawn]
Mike Oldfield – Tubular Bells [Tubular Bells] [Hot 100: #7 | UK: #31 | Canada: #3 | Australia: #12]
The Orb – A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From the Centre of the Ultraworld [The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld] [UK: #78]
The Orb – Back Side of the Moon [The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld]
The Orb – Blue Room [U.F.Orb] [Dance: #46 | UK: #8 | Ireland: #28]
The Orb – Close Encounters [U.F.Orb]
The Orb – Majestic [U.F.Orb]
The Orb – O.O.B.E. [U.F.Orb]
The Orb – Spanish Castles in Space [The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld]
The Orb – Supernova at the End of the Universe [The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld]
The Orb – Towers of Dub [U.F.Orb]
Orbital – Impact (The Earth Is Burning) [Orbital (Brown Album)]
Out Hud – Dear Mr. Bush, There Are over 100 Words for Shit and Only 1 for Music. Fuck You, Out Hud [Let Us Never Speak of It Again]
Panda Bear – Bro's [Person Pitch] [uncharted]
Panda Bear – Good Girl/Carrots [Person Pitch] [uncharted]
Paperclip People – Throw [single] [uncharted]
Phish – Union Federal [Junta]
Pink Floyd – A Saucerful of Secrets [A Saucerful of Secrets]
Pink Floyd – Atom Heart Mother [Atom Heart Mother]
Pink Floyd – Dogs [Animals]
Pink Floyd – Echoes [Meddle]
Pink Floyd – Pigs (Three Different Ones) [Animals]
Pink Floyd – Sheep [Animals]
Pink Floyd – Shine On You Crazy Diamond [Wish You Were Here]
Primal Scream – Come Together [Screamadelica]
Public Image Ltd. – Albatross [Metal Box]
Pulp – The Day After the Revolution [This Is Hardcore]
Quicksilver Messenger Service – Calvary [Happy Trails]
Rare Earth – Get Ready [Get Ready] [Hot 100: #4]
Red House Painters – River [Old Ramon]
Red House Painters – Silly Love Songs [Songs for a Blue Guitar]
Lou Reed – Heroin (live) [Rock n Roll Animal]
Lou Reed – Rock 'n' Roll (live) [Rock n Roll Animal]
Lou Reed – Street Hassle [Street Hassle]
The Rolling Stones – Goin' Home [Aftermath]
The Roots – Water [Phrenology]
Todd Rundgren – Medley: I'm So Proud/Ooh Baby Baby/La La Means I Love You/Cool Jerk [A Wizard, a True Star]
Rush – 2112 [2112] [uncharted]
Rush – The Camera Eye [Moving Pictures]
Klaus Schulze – Bayreuth Return [Timewind]
Gil Scott-Heron – "B" Movie [Reflections] [R&B: #49]
Sigur Rós – Mílanó [Takk...]
Sigur Rós – Svefn-g-englar [Ágætis byrjun] [UK: #146]
Sigur Rós – Untitled No. 7 (Dauðalagið) [( )]
Sigur Rós – Untitled No. 8 (Popplagið) [( )]
Sigur Rós – Viðrar vel til loftárása [Ágætis byrjun]
The Sisters of Mercy – This Corrosion [Floodland] [Dance: #38 | UK: #7 | Ireland: #6 | Germany: #17]
Sleater-Kinney – Let's Call It Love [The Woods]
Sly and the Family Stone – Medley: Dance to the Music/Music Lover/I Want to Take You Higher (live) [Woodstock]
Sly and the Family Stone – Sex Machine [Stand!]
Patti Smith Group – Radio Ethiopia [Radio Ethiopia]
Soft Machine – Facelift [Third]
Soft Machine – Moon in June [Third]
Soft Machine – Out-Bloody-Rageous [Third]
Soft Machine – Slightly All the Time [Third]
Sonic Youth – Hits of Sunshine (For Allen Ginsberg) [A Thousand Leaves]
Sonic Youth – Karen Revisited [Murray Street]
Sonic Youth – The Diamond Sea [Washing Machine] [uncharted]
Sonic Youth – Trilogy [Daydream Nation]
Spacemen 3 – Suicide [Playing with Fire]
Spiritualized – Angel Sigh/Sway/200 Bars [Lazer Guided Melodies]
Spiritualized – Cop Shoot Cop... [Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space]
Spiritualized – Run/Smiles/Step into the Breeze/Symphony Space [Lazer Guided Melodies]
Spiritualized – Take Your Time/Shine a Light [Lazer Guided Melodies]
Spiritualized – You Know It's True/If I Were with Her Now/I Want You [Lazer Guided Melodies]
Stereolab – Jenny Ondioline [Transient Random-Noise Bursts with Announcements]
Sufjan Stevens – Impossible Soul [The Age of Adz]
The Stooges – We Will Fall [The Stooges]
Studio – Out There [West Coast]
Sugarhill Gang – Rapper's Delight [Sugarhill Gang] [Hot 100: #36 | UK: #3 | Canada: #1 | Australia: #37 etc.]
Suicide – Frankie Teardrop [Suicide]
Donna Summer – Love to Love You Baby [Love to Love You Baby] [Hot 100: #2 | Dance: #1 | R&B: #3 | UK: #4 | Canada: #1 | Australia: #4 etc.]
Sunn O))) – Alice [Monoliths & Dimensions]
Supertramp – Fool's Overture [Even in the Quietest Moments...]
Swans – A Piece of the Sky [The Seer]
Swans – The Apostate [The Seer]
Swans – The Seer [The Seer]
Swans – The Sound [Soundtracks for the Blind]
Tangerine Dream – Phaedra [Phaedra]
Television – Marquee Moon [Marquee Moon] [UK: #30]
Tool – Reflection [Lateralus]
Tool – Third Eye [Ænima]
Tortoise – Djed [Millions Now Living Will Never Die]
Tortoise – Gamera [Gamera EP]
Traffic - The Low Spark of High-Heeled Boys
The Trammps – Disco Inferno [Disco Inferno] [Hot 100: #11 | Dance: #1 | UK: #16]
Triana – Llegó el día [...Llegó el día]
Underworld – Banstyle/Sappy's Curry [Second Toughest in the Infants]
Underworld – Juanita : Kiteless : To Dream of Love [Second Toughest in the Infants] [uncharted]
Underworld – Mmm Skyscraper I Love You [Dubnobasswithmyheadman] [uncharted]
Utopia – The Ikon [Todd Rundgren's Utopia]
Van der Graaf Generator – A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers [Pawn Hearts]
Van der Graaf Generator – Lost [H to He, Who Am the Only One]
Van der Graaf Generator – The Sleepwalkers [Godbluff]
The Velvet Underground – Ocean (live) [1969: Velvet Underground Live with Lou Reed]
The Velvet Underground – Sister Ray [White Light/White Heat]
Scott Walker – Clara [Tilt]
Scott Walker – Cue [Tilt]
War – Gypsy Man [Deliver the Word] [Hot 100: #8 | R&B: #6]
Kanye West – Last Call [The College Dropout]
Wilco – Less Than You Think [A Ghost Is Born]
Wilco – One Sunday Morning (Song for Jane Smiley's Boyfriend) [The Whole Love]
Wilco – Spiders (Kidsmoke) [A Ghost Is Born]
Wipers – Youth of America [Youth of America]
"Weird Al" Yankovic – Albuquerque [Running with Scissors]
Yes – And You and I [Close to the Edge] [Hot 100: #42]
Yes – Close to the Edge [Close to the Edge]
Yes – Heart of the Sunrise [Fragile]
Yes – Machine Messiah [Drama]
Yes – The Revealing Science of God (Dance of the Dawn) [Tales from Topographic Oceans]
Yo La Tengo – Night Falls on Hoboken [And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out]
Yo La Tengo – Spec Bebop
Neil Young & Crazy Horse – Change Your Mind [Sleeps with Angels]
Neil Young with Crazy Horse – Cowgirl in the Sand [Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere]
Neil Young & Crazy Horse – Driftin' Back [Psychedelic Pill]
Neil Young & Crazy Horse – Love and Only Love [Ragged Glory]
Neil Young & Crazy Horse – Love to Burn [Ragged Glory]
Neil Young & Crazy Horse – Ramada Inn [Psychedelic Pill]
Neil Young & Crazy Horse – Walk Like a Giant [Psychedelic Pill]
Frank Zappa – The Gumbo Variations [Hot Rats]
The Mothers of Invention – The Return of the Son of Monster Magnet [Freak Out!]
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The most obvious missing song would be Maggot Brain by Funkadelic. It ranked #5 on DDD "best guitar solos" too, so I guess it fits your criterias.
The 3rd highest ranked (I think) of such songs is Television - Marquee Moon, a hugely influential and quite awesome song. Whether or not to include the top 2 (Rapper's Delight and Autobahn) depends more on how you define "rock songs". If you consider it to be "a song" and "rock", Beastie Boys - B-Boys Bouillabaisse should be there too.
As far as Neil Young goes, I'd think Cortez the Killer is more known than Cowgirl in the Sand.
Most of "top 10 songs over 10 minutes" I found include Led Zeppelin - Achille's Last Stand. Voodoo Chile, though less iconic as its Slight Return, is also often cited.

I am quite sure that someone here (maybe sonfosamiam) would point out King Crimson's Starless too. Anyway, there should be some prog rock since "long songs" is their specialty. I guess Rush - 2012 is the most representative one.
Post Rock should be included for the same reason, the highest ranked one, and very likely the most beloved one, is Sigur Ros - Svefn-G-Englar which launched one the most acclaimed albums and bands of the past 15 years. 2 other AM and critics favorite are Tortoise - DJed and Mogwai - Mogwai Fear Satan (well, Mogwai Fear Satan is the AM favorite but critics seem to favor Like Herod... I love both anyway)

Another real AM favorite (and a favorite of mine), is Of Montreal - The Past is a Grotesque Animal. I don't think it meets DDD's criteria in any way, but it is a fantastic song and well, is the fact that Soundgarden - Jesus Christ Pose is so high in so many DDD's list really respectful of their criterias either ?

And I am pretty sure someone will mention your favorite band ever, The Velvet Underground, with Sister Ray.
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Surprised that you haven't got The Chambers Brothers' "Time Has Come Today" on your list yet, Bruce.
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Re: Greatest Real Long Rock Songs

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I second every suggestion by Nassim (great pics).
Of course in the cases like Kraftwerk and Sugarhill Gang you should decide do they meet your definitions of rock music.

Some other suggestions:
There should be also at least one krautrock song in the list. Maybe the best and the most famous example is Halleluwah by Can (or Hallogallo by NEU!).
I think there should be some metal tracks too. Maybe someone else can suggest these.
One new and interesting choice to the list could be Alice by Sunn O))) (too marginal I guess). And of course what about Station to Station by David Bowie.
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Nassim and Petri, I think you nailed it in terms of general love and recognition.

My favorites:

Pink Floyd - Echoes
Sigur Ros - Svefn G Englar
Of Montreal - The Past Is a Grotesque Animal
Dadawah - Seventy Two Nations
Ijahman - Jah Is No Secret
Destroyer - Bay of Pigs
Genesis - Supper's Ready
Tortoise - Djed
Can - Halleluhwah

Yeah, two reggae tracks surprised me too.
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Re: Greatest Real Long Rock Songs

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If you're doing famous live versions, definitely the 20+ minute "Whipping Post" from At Fillmore East. (There's also "Mountain Jam" from Eat a Peach which, at 33 minutes, is too long even for me).
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Well thanks !
And yeah, Station to Station and Halleluwah should be shoe-in !

I don't really know for metal, the 2 popular bands I know with a lot of long songs are Dream Theater and Opeth but I would not know which to pick. Metallica has a lot of classics between 8 and 10 minutes long, but nothing over 10.
Lateralus by Tool or Crack the Skye by Mastodon maybe ?

In a different style (progressive-prog-jazz-hard-rock ?),it is interesting to see that the 2 most popular (and arguably best) songs of the 2 acclaimed Mars Volta albums are the 2 songs whick clock over 10 minutes : L'Via L'Viaquez and Cicatriz Esp.

Also :
Fela Kuti - Zombie should be there too !
Sonic Youth - The Diamond Sea had quite a lot of support on the 90s poll and is as close to an "indie rock epic" as can be
Swans - A Piece of the Sky (and The Seer) : most of the acclaim of last year 4th highly ranked album on AM came from those 2 tracks
Lou Reed - Street Hassle which I am quite surprised isn't in AM
John Coltrane - My Favorite Things and lots of other jazz pieces, but that would need a separate list I guess

I would probably get a lot more ideas about songs of the past 20 years when I will be back home, having access to my music library !
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Bob Dylan - Brownsville Girl (I love this one)
Bob Dylan - Joey
Bob Dylan - Highlands
Bob Dylan - Tempest
Guns 'n Roses - Coma (one of my favorites of theirs)
Dire Straits - Telegraph Road
Supertramp - Fool's Overture (another one I love)
Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Driftin' Back (27:37!)
Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Ramada Inn
Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Walk Like a Giant
Tim Buckley - Gypsy Woman
Tim Buckley - Love from Room 109 At the Islander
Creedence Clearwater Revival - I Heard it Through the Grapevine

Does Tubular Bells by Mike Oldfield count?
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My favourites:

1. Fairport Convention: A Sailor’s Life / 11:14 (Unhalfbricking, 1969)
2. Emerson, Lake and Palmer: Take a Pebble / 12:39 (Emerson, Lake and Palmer, 1970)
3. Yes: Heart of Sunrise (Fragile, 1971)
4. Yes: Close to the Edge / 18:42 (Close to the Edge, 1972)
5. Yes: And You and I / 10:08 (Close to the Edge, 1972)
6. Van Morrison: Almost Independence Day /10:05 (Saint Dominic’s Preview, 1972)
7. Van Morrison: Listen to the Lion / 11:07 (Saint Dominic’s Preview, 1972)
8. Yes: The Revealing Science of God - Dance of the Dawn / 20:27 (Tales from Topographic Oceans, 1974)
9. Roberta Flack: I Can See the Song in Last December / 12:48 (Feel Like Makin’ Love, 1975)
10. David Bowie: Station to Station / 10:08 (Station to Station, 1976)
11. Bob Dylan: Joey / 11:06 (Desire, 1976)
12. Van Morrison: Summertime in England / 15:30 (Common One, 1980)
13. Yes: Machine Messiah / 10:28 (Drama, 1980)
14. Triana: Llegó el día / 13:08 (…Llegó el día, 1983)
15. Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe: Brother of Mine / 10:23 (Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe, 1989)
16. Neil Young & Crazy Horse: Love and Only Love / 10:01 (Ragged Glory, 1990)
17. Neil Young & Crazy Horse: Love to Burn / 10:18 (Ragged Glory, 1990)
18. Enrique Morente y Lagartija Nick: Omega / 10:48 (Omega, 1996)
19. Red House Painters: Silly Love Songs / 10:57 (Songs for a Blue Guitar, 1996)
20. Red House Painters: River / 11:20 (Old Ramon, 2001)


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Well, for starters the title should be "Greatest Really Long Rock Songs". I'm pretty sure all these songs are real. :lol:
Here's a few that haven't been mentioned yet:
-"1983...(A Merman I Should Turn To Be)" by Jimi Hendrix
-"In My Time of Dying" by Led Zeppelin
-"I'm Your Captain (Closer To Home)" by Grand Funk Railroad
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Rush - 2112
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Thanks to everybody, I knew I could count on you guys.

If somebody has time I can use a list of the most acclaimed songs here that are 10 minutes are longer, along with their ranking on the site. It will be part of the criteria of the list. In fact, Henrik, if you're interested I could use a partner on this list. If you want to help me put the top 100 together and rank them for the list I could have us listed as co-editors when the list gets published.
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This is one of my favorite categories! A lot of my favorites ("Djed", "Child in Time", "Close to the Edge", "Halleluwah", "Starless") have been mentioned already, but I'll throw a few other tracks a shoutout:

Ones that are generally considered acclaimed:
Nina Simone - "Sinnerman"
Panda Bear - "Bros"
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - "Storm"
Stereolab - "Jenny Ondioline"

Ones that I personally enjoy:
Boredoms - "Super Going"
Joanna Newsom - "Emily"
Can - "Bel Air"
Gong - "Flying Teapot"
Emeralds - "Genetic"
Soft Machine - "Moon in June"
Kendrick Lamar - "Sing About Me, I'm Dying of Thirst"
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - "We Drift Like Worried Fire"
Swans - "The Sound"
Swans - "The Apostate"


In particular, I think previous posters missed out on GYBE, who have built an entire career of acclaim from really long songs.
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Here's what I have so far:

(Not Just) Knee Deep - Funkadelic
1983... (A Merman) I Should Turn to Be) - The Jimi Hendrix Experience
2112 - Rush
240 Years Before Your Time - The Black Keys
Achilles Last Stand - Led Zeppelin
Albatross - Public Image Ltd.
Alice's Restaurant Massacree - Arlo Guthrie
Almost Independence Day - Van Morrison
A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers - Van Der Graaf Generator
A Rainbow in Curved Air - Terry Riley
A Sailor's Life - Fairport Convention
Atom Heart Mother - Pink Floyd
Aumgn - Can
Autobahn - Kraftwerk
Baker St. Muse - Jethro Tull
Bay of Pigs - Destroyer
Bayreuth Return - Klaus Schulze
B-Boys Bouillabaisse - Beastie Boys
Bésame Mucho - El Rifle y los de Abajo
Bro's - Panda Bear
Brother of Mine - Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe
Brownsville Girl - Bob Dylan
By The Time I Get To Phoenix - Isaac Hayes
Carouselambra - Led Zeppelin
Chameleon - Herbie Hancock
Child In Time - Deep Purple
Cicatriz Esp - Mars Volts
Close To The Edge - Yes
Coma - Guns N' Roses
Come Together - Primal Scream
Cop Shoot Cop... - Spiritualized
Cowgirl In The Sand - Neil Young
Dark Star (live) - Grateful Dead
Death Don't Have No Mercy (live) - Grateful Dead
Desolation Row - Bob Dylan
Disco Inferno - Trammps
Djed - Tortoise
Dogs - Pink Floyd
Doing It To Death - Fred Wesley & J.B.'s (James Brown)
Do You Feel Like We Do (Live) - Peter Frampton
Do Your Thing - Isaac Hayes
Driftin' Back- Neil Young
East-West - Paul Butterfield Blues Band
Echoes - Pink Floyd
Edge of Sanity - Crimson
Emily - Joanna Newsom
Escape-ism - James Brown
False Echoes (Havana 1921) - Jimmy Buffett
Farewell To Hypocrites - Shinki Chen
Flash To The Beat - Grandmaster Flash
Fool's Overture - Supertramp
Frankie Teardrop - Suicide
Free Bird (Live) - Lynyrd Skynyrd
Funeral for a Friend / Love Lies Bleeding - Elton John
Get Ready - Rare Earth
Get Up (I Feel Like Being a) Sex Machine (live) - James Brown
Goin' Home - The Rolling Stones
Good Girl/Carrots - Panda Bear
Gypsy Man - War
Gypsy Woman- Tim Buckley
Halleluwah - Can
Hallogallo - Neu
Heart Of The Sunrise - Yes
Herod - DJed and Mogwai
Highlands - Bob Dylan
I Can See the Song in Last December - Roberta Flack
I'd Do Anything for Love (But I Won't Do That) - Meat Loaf
I Heard It Through The Grapevine - Creedence Clearwater Revival
I'm Your Captain (Closer To Home) - Grand Funk Railroad
In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida - Iron Butterfly
In Memory of Elizabeth Reed (live) - The Allman Brothers Band
In My Time of Dying - Led Zeppelin
I Stand Accused - Isaac Hayes
Jah Is No Secret - Ijahman
Jenny Ondioline - Stereolab
Joey - Bob Dylan
Jordrök - Änglagård
Karn Evil 9 - Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Kung Bore - Änglagård
L'amico Suicida - Biglietto per l'Inferno
Last Call - Kanye West
Lazy (live) - Deep Purple
L'Evoluzione - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso
Listen to the Lion - Van Morrison
Llegó el día - Triana
Lizard - King Crimson
Lost - Van Der Graaf Generator
Lost Someone (Live) - James Brown
Love - Morgen
Love and Only Love - Neil Young
Love From Room 109 At the Islander - Tim Buckley
Love to Burn - Neil Young
Love To Love You Baby - Donna Summer
L'Via L'Viaquez - Mars Volts
Machine Messiah - Yes:
Maggot Brain - Funkadelic
Marquee Moon - Television
Mogwai Fear Satan - Mogwai
Moonchild - King Crimson
Mother Sky - Can
Nine feet underground - Caravan
Nothing But Time - Cat Power
Ommadawn - Mike Oldfield
One Sunday Morning (Song for Jane Smiley's Boyfriend) - Wilco
One Word - Mahavishnu Orchestra
Only Skin - Joanna Newsom
Out of the Blue - George Harrison
Peking O - Can
Phallus Dei - Amon Duul II
Promentalshitbackwashpsychosis Enema Squad (The Doo Doo Chasers) - Funkadelic
Radio Ethiopia - Patti Smith Group
Ramada Inn - Neil Young
Rapper's Delight - Sugarhill Gang
Reoccurring Dreams - Hüsker Dü
River - Red House Painters
Sad Eyed Lady Of The Lowlands - Bob Dylan
Season of the Witch - Bloomfield-Kooper-Stills
Seventy Two Nations - Dadawah
Sex Machine - Sly & The Family Stone
Shine On You Crazy Diamond - Pink Floyd
Silly Love Songs - Red House Painters
Sing About Me (I'm Dying Of Thirst) - Kendrick Lamar
Sinnerman - Nina Simone
Sister Ray - The Velvet Underground
Slightly All the Time - Soft Machine
Space Truckin' (live) - Deep Purple
Spoonful (live) - Cream
Starless - King Crimson
Station to Station - David Bowie
Storm - Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Summertime in England - Van Morrison
Super Rappin - Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five
Supper's Ready - Genesis
Svefn G Englar - Sigur Ros
Take A Pebble - Emerson, Lake and Palmer
Tarkus - Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Telegraph Road - Dire Straits
Tempest - Bob Dylan
The Crown - Gary Byrd
The Diamond Sea – Sonic Youth
The End - Doors
The Gumbo Variations - Frank Zappa
The Musical Box - Genesis
The Past is a Grotesque Animal - Of Montreal
The Return of the Son of Monster Magnet - The Mothers of Invention
The Return To Innocence Lost - The Roots
The Revealing Science of God - Dance of the Dawn
The Sleepwalkers - Van Der Graaf Generator
Thick As A Brick - Jethro Tull
Three Days - Jane's Addiction
Time Has Come Today - The Chambers Brothers
Toad (live) - Cream
Too Long - Daft Punk
Tortoise Mogwai Fear Satan - DJed and Mogwai
Trilogy - Sonic Youth
Tubular Bells - Mike Oldfield
Turn On Your Love Light (live) - Grateful Dead
Ur Vilande - Änglagård
Viðrar vel til loftárása - Sigur Rós
Voodoo Chile - The Jimi Hendrix Experience
Walk Like a Giant - Neil Young
Walk On By - Isaac Hayes
Warning - Black Sabbath
Water - The Roots
We Will Fall - The Stooges
When The Music's Over - Doors
Whipping Post (live) - The Allman Brothers Band
You And I - Yes
Yoo Doo Right - Can
You Don't Love Me (live) - The Allman Brothers Band
Youth of America - Wipers
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Miguel wrote:My favourites:

1. Fairport Convention: A Sailor’s Life / 11:14 (Unhalfbricking, 1969)
2. Emerson, Lake and Palmer: Take a Pebble / 12:39 (Emerson, Lake and Palmer, 1970)
3. Yes: Heart of Sunrise (Fragile, 1971)
4. Yes: Close to the Edge / 18:42 (Close to the Edge, 1972)
5. Yes: And You and I / 10:08 (Close to the Edge, 1972)
6. Van Morrison: Almost Independence Day /10:05 (Saint Dominic’s Preview, 1972)
7. Van Morrison: Listen to the Lion / 11:07 (Saint Dominic’s Preview, 1972)
8. Yes: The Revealing Science of God - Dance of the Dawn / 20:27 (Tales from Topographic Oceans, 1974)
9. Roberta Flack: I Can See the Song in Last December / 12:48 (Feel Like Makin’ Love, 1975)
10. David Bowie: Station to Station / 10:08 (Station to Station, 1976)
11. Bob Dylan: Joey / 11:06 (Desire, 1976)
12. Van Morrison: Summertime in England / 15:30 (Common One, 1980)
13. Yes: Machine Messiah / 10:28 (Drama, 1980)
14. Triana: Llegó el día / 13:08 (…Llegó el día, 1983)
15. Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe: Brother of Mine / 10:23 (Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe, 1989)
16. Neil Young & Crazy Horse: Love and Only Love / 10:01 (Ragged Glory, 1990)
17. Neil Young & Crazy Horse: Love to Burn / 10:18 (Ragged Glory, 1990)
18. Enrique Morente y Lagartija Nick: Omega / 10:48 (Omega, 1996)
19. Red House Painters: Silly Love Songs / 10:57 (Songs for a Blue Guitar, 1996)
20. Red House Painters: River / 11:20 (Old Ramon, 2001)


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Great to see all the Yes songs on your list. I will now have to listen again to Machine Messiah and The Revealing Science of God.

I haven't finished perusing the entire discussion here, but perhaps the 10-minute minimum is a bit too strict and is the reason that Stairway to Heaven has not yet been mentioned :music-listening:

I also have put in a plug for Utopia's "The Ikon."
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Henry wrote:
Miguel wrote:perhaps the 10-minute minimum is a bit too strict
The site already has a "Greatest Epic Rock Songs" list with a 5 minute minimum that includes "Stairway" and many other long classics that are short of 10 minutes.

http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_ ... -epic.html
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CRITERIA - Songs must be 10 minutes or longer. This means on their original release either on an album, EP or a single - remixes do not count. Songs were chosen and ranked based on initial and lasting popularity, acclaim and influence. Live versions of songs that were less than 10 minutes when done first in the studio were only included if they became significant in their own right. Songs that reached 10 minutes only because of an extended jam at the end will receive less credit than songs that legitimitely exceeded 10 minutes without an extended jam. Also, songs that were edited down into a shorter version will lose some credit.
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One more that comes to my mind is Donna Summer - Love to Love You Baby. One more thing - don't want to be picky, but Cortez the Killer is less than 10 minutes long (at least Zuma version), so propably it's not eligible.
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Bruce wrote: Tortoise Mogwai Fear Satan - DJed and Mogwai
You've got two separate tracks by different artists mashed up together here: "Djed" by Tortoise, and "Mogwai Fear Satan" by Mogwai.

There are so many live versions of songs that stretch past 10 minutes that they should probably get their own listing.

I'm surprised no one's mentioned "One Sunday Morning (Song for Jane Smiley's Boyfriend)," the unassumingly epic 12-minute closing track on Wilco's The Whole Love. (There's a 15-minute song on The Ghost is Born as well, "Less Than You Think," but that one's three minutes of song and 12 of buzzing noise effects.)
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"Lizard" - King Crimson (23:29 long. The longest King Crimson song.)
"Bésame Mucho" - El Rifle y los de Abajo (A Mexican classic, can not miss. 18:00 long.)
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Good catch on Bro's !

I thought about Godspeed, but the tracks are more movements than just "one song", though once again everything depends on your definition. Storm seems to be the critic consensus.

Another highly acclaimed one is Born Slippy by Underworld, most acclaimed electronic song of the 90s I think.
And also worth including is The Wipers - Youth of America, "hailed as extremely influential by numerous critics and musicians, including Melvins, Dinosaur Jr., Mono Men, Stephen Malkmus, Poison Idea, My Vitriol, Nation of Ulysses, Nirvana, Calamity Jane, and Cloud Nothings." (says wikipedia)

Ok, my favorite ones (on the previous posts I tried to point at influential and acclaimed ones, here I just go with my tastes ), by decreasing length :
Lindstorm - Where You Go I Go Too (I think it appeared in a few end of decades lists, but it doesn't seem as acclaimed as the much shorter "I Feel Space" )
Mogwai - Mogwai Fear Satan
Dinosaur - Kiss Me Again (epic disco track produced by Arthur Russell)
Boredoms - Super Shine
Emeralds - Genetic (as pointed by Jackson)
Luomo - Tessio (fantastic new-house track, very likely the best of the past decade, a lesson in crescendo and progression)
Tortoise - Gamera
Of Montreal - The Past is a Grotesque Animal
Burial - Ashtray Wasp
Dan Deacon - Wham City
Mogwai - Like Herod
Out Hud - Dear Mr. Bush, There are over 100 words for shit and only one for music, Fuck You, Out Hud (and I don't enjoy it "just" for its fantastic title, it's one of the funkiest songs of the past decade this side of "Me and Giuliani Down by the Schoolyard (a true story)")
Burial - Kindred
Fuck Buttons - Olympians
Television - Marquee Moon
Fuck Buttons - Surf Solar
Funkadelic - Maggot Brain

Lindstorm and Luomo make me think of a few influential house/electro tracks like Basic Channel - Octagon or Paperclip People - Throw, though I don't know their respective genres enough to measure the impact.
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Harold wrote: (There's a 15-minute song on The Ghost is Born as well, "Less Than You Think," but that one's three minutes of song and 12 of buzzing noise effects.)
Speaking of drone songs that go on for far too long, someone has to mention the Knife's 19-minute "Old Dreams Waiting to Be Realized" from just this year! :D That's probably too far outside the definition of "rock" though (and perhaps too far outside the definition of "music" altogether...)
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Some personal favorites of mine:

Trucker's Atlas - Modest Mouse
Moon In June - Soft Machine
East Hastings - Godspeed You Black Emperor!
Love In C Minor - Cerrone
Monolith - The Beta Band
Oldie - Odd Future
Act I: Eternal Sunshine (The Pledge) - Jay Electronica
And Jeff Buckley's live cover of Van Morrison's "The Way Young Lovers Do" from the Live at Sin-é EP.
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I have a guy showing me a bunch of awesome reviews of Sing About Me (I'm Dying Of Thirst) - Kendrick Lamar in majoe newspapers, yet it's not listed on the song list here at AM. I think is album is highly acclaimed here. He's telling me that it should definitely be in the top ten on the list. Anybody agree?
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A few more...

Cerrone - Supernature
Cymande - Dove
Studio - Out There
Tangerine Dream - Phaedra
Gil Scott-Heron - 'B' Movie
Archive - Again
DJ Shadow - What Does Your Soul Look Like, Part 2
Fela Kuti - Roforofo Fight
Fela Kuti - Gentleman
Pink Floyd - "Dogs", "Pigs" or "Sheep"
Brian Eno - 1/1
The Sisters of Mercy - This Corrosion (although it's my least favorite song from "Floodland" - due to it's length and repetetiveness)
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Untitled 8 from () hasn't been mentioned yet. Easily top 5 in this category for me.

The studio version of A Saucerful of Secrets is longer than 10 minutes (so that should qualify it), but the live version from Ummagumma is the one I prefer.

Nassim mentioned The Diamond Sea, which I would probably put at the top of my list, but I can't see it on your list Bruce.
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Bruce wrote:I have a guy showing me a bunch of awesome reviews of Sing About Me (I'm Dying Of Thirst) - Kendrick Lamar in majoe newspapers, yet it's not listed on the song list here at AM. I think is album is highly acclaimed here. He's telling me that it should definitely be in the top ten on the list. Anybody agree?
Maybe not top ten, but it is definitely one of my favorites on good Kid, mAAd City. Should be included on your list
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Also, I don't know if you're counting jazz

but A Love Supreme Pt, III: Pursuance is a great one

That goes the same for Pharoah's Dance and Bitches Brew by Miles Davis
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Plenty of jazz pieces, but the ones that I always come back to as if they were 3 minutes singles are Joanna Newsom's Only Skin and Pharoah Sanders' The Creator has a Masterplan.
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Mattceinicram wrote:Also, I don't know if you're counting jazz

but A Love Supreme Pt, III: Pursuance is a great one

That goes the same for Pharoah's Dance and Bitches Brew by Miles Davis
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I have to agree with HRS, all of Joanna Newsom's 10+ minute tracks are complete gold
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Bruce wrote:Thanks to everybody, I knew I could count on you guys.

If somebody has time I can use a list of the most acclaimed songs here that are 10 minutes are longer, along with their ranking on the site. It will be part of the criteria of the list. In fact, Henrik, if you're interested I could use a partner on this list. If you want to help me put the top 100 together and rank them for the list I could have us listed as co-editors when the list gets published.
I'm not an expert on this topic, so such a task wouldn't suit me. However, perhaps we could run a poll or a game that you can use as inspiration for your list?

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Could I suggest "Ghost Love Score" by Nightwish, aka the most over-the-top yet epic song ever?
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Sweepstakes Ron wrote:Could I suggest "Ghost Love Score" by Nightwish, aka the most over-the-top yet epic song ever?
As an (admittedly) huge Nightwish fan, I would second this nomination. (Although their song "The Poet and the Pendulum" may give it a good run for the title of "Most over the top epic song ever.")

Also, even though it certainly isn't acclaimed, I wanted to mention my personal favorite ten-minute plus song: Marillion's 18 minute neo-prog epic "Ocean Cloud."
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Henrik wrote:
Bruce wrote:Thanks to everybody, I knew I could count on you guys.

If somebody has time I can use a list of the most acclaimed songs here that are 10 minutes are longer, along with their ranking on the site. It will be part of the criteria of the list. In fact, Henrik, if you're interested I could use a partner on this list. If you want to help me put the top 100 together and rank them for the list I could have us listed as co-editors when the list gets published.
I'm not an expert on this topic, so such a task wouldn't suit me. However, perhaps we could run a poll or a game that you can use as inspiration for your list?

"Editor: Bruce (inspired by an Acclaimed Music Forum poll)"
No, the list has to follow the criteria. It cannot be about anybody's personal taste.

I've got someone from the DDD forums to be my co-editor. I think by his email address that he's from Denmark and he knows the modern stuff real well so we'll have all bases covered. He posts here too. Pauldrach.

I could have missed something but these were all the 10 minute songs I could find in the top 1,000 songs here.

"Sex Machine" is live on the long LP version, but it's a phony dubbed in live audience over the studio recording.

77 James Brown
Get Up (I Feel Like Being a) Sex Machine

150 The Sugarhill Gang
Rapper's Delight

192 Kraftwerk
Autobahn

252 Television
Marquee Moon

306 The Doors
The End

567 Bob Dylan
Desolation Row

827 Donna Summer
Love to Love You Baby

888 The Velvet Underground
Sister Ray

Here's the songs that I see as being in the top 25 according to the criteria.

Autobahn - Kraftwerk
By The Time I Get To Phoenix - Isaac Hayes
Child In Time - Deep Purple
Close To The Edge - Yes
Desolation Row - Bob Dylan
Disco Inferno - Trammps
Doing It To Death - Fred Wesley & J.B.'s (James Brown)
Escape-ism - James Brown
Free Bird (Live) - Lynyrd Skynyrd
Funeral for a Friend / Love Lies Bleeding - Elton John
Get Up (I Feel Like Being a) Sex Machine (live) - James Brown
I'm Your Captain (Closer To Home) - Grand Funk Railroad
In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida - Iron Butterfly
Lost Someone (Live) - James Brown
Love To Love You Baby - Donna Summer
Maggot Brain - Funkadelic
Marquee Moon - Television
Rapper's Delight - Sugarhill Gang
Shine On You Crazy Diamond - Pink Floyd
Sister Ray - The Velvet Underground
The End - Doors
Thick As A Brick - Jethro Tull
Time Has Come Today - The Chambers Brothers
Walk On By - Isaac Hayes
When The Music's Over - Doors
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Bruce wrote:I think by his email address that he's from Denmark and he knows the modern stuff real well so we'll have all bases covered. He posts here too. Pauldrach.
.de is Germany (Deutschland). Denmark has .dk. Close enough though.
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Here's a strong candidate from the metal genre that I forgot when I listed my favorites: Agalloch - In the Shadow of Our Pale Companion
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Henrik wrote:Here's a strong candidate from the metal genre that I forgot when I listed my favorites:
Paul, if you see anything in this thread that I should add to our main list let me know.
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Hey, "Bésame Mucho - El Rifle y Los de Abajo" seems to be a song by an unknown artist only if viewed from a point of view that is not global. Any Latin American (especially Mexican) would agree with me that the song should be in the list. Maybe not in the top 10, but in the top 25. Also, if you put it on the list, it can not be said that there are regional preferences of any kind. Ask others, or research on your own. You will find many things about El Rifle, or about Los de Abajo. (Together, only Bésame Mucho.) Moreover, the song became a film and even a television series (which is not usual for a rock song) both divided into three parts both by the nature of the song (which has three parts) as to honor that "Bésame Mucho", "El Rifle" and "Los de Abajo" are great separately. And they are pure rock. Can not find it on youtube, I guess for copyright, but you can find much information on the internet.
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Somehow I can't resist this thread...
Bruce wrote:Doing It To Death - Fred Wesley & J.B.'s (James Brown)
Free Bird (Live) - Lynyrd Skynyrd
Get Up (I Feel Like Being a) Sex Machine (live) - James Brown
Lost Someone (Live) - James Brown
I don't think of these as 10+ minutes songs. It seems odd to me to to include live recordings.
Bruce wrote:Escape-ism - James Brown
I'm Your Captain (Closer To Home) - Grand Funk Railroad
These are songs I had never heard of before. And as far as I can see, Escape-ism isn't a long track at all.

I think "Svefn-G-Englar", "Zombie" and (although I don't like it) "Tubular Bells" should be really high. "Halleluhwah" should be top 25 too IMO.
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Blanco wrote:Hey, "Bésame Mucho - El Rifle y Los de Abajo" seems to be a song by an unknown artist only if viewed from a point of view that is not global. Any Latin American (especially Mexican) would agree with me that the song should be in the list. Maybe not in the top 10, but in the top 25. Also, if you put it on the list, it can not be said that there are regional preferences of any kind. Ask others, or research on your own. You will find many things about El Rifle, or about Los de Abajo. (Together, only Bésame Mucho.) Moreover, the song became a film and even a television series (which is not usual for a rock song) both divided into three parts both by the nature of the song (which has three parts) as to honor that "Bésame Mucho", "El Rifle" and "Los de Abajo" are great separately. And they are pure rock. Can not find it on youtube, I guess for copyright, but you can find much information on the internet.
Can't find it mentioned in the English and Spanish Wikipedias, RYM or Allmusic.
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Henrik wrote:Somehow I can't resist this thread...
Bruce wrote:Doing It To Death - Fred Wesley & J.B.'s (James Brown)
Free Bird (Live) - Lynyrd Skynyrd
Get Up (I Feel Like Being a) Sex Machine (live) - James Brown
Lost Someone (Live) - James Brown
I don't think of these as 10+ minutes songs. It seems odd to me to to include live recordings.
"Sex Machine" is not really live. It's the studio recording with a phony dubbed in live audience.

The live version of "Free Bird" is played as much or more often than the studio version on American radio.

"Doin' It To Death" is over 10 minutes on the album. The single is a 5 minute or so edit from that.

"Lost Someone" is the most important track on JB's most acclaimed album.
Bruce wrote:Escape-ism - James Brown
I'm Your Captain (Closer To Home) - Grand Funk Railroad
Henrik wrote: These are songs I had never heard of before. And as far as I can see, Escape-ism isn't a long track at all.
The Grand Funk item was a huge AOR track in the early 70s. The second half of it (Closer To Home) was a big hit single (#22 Pop) in 1970. Kind of like how they took "See Me Feel Me" from the second half of "We;re Not Gonna Take It" and it became a hit single on its own.

Here's the full version of "Esacpe-Ism."
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I just checked the original album, the Grand Funk song is listed at 9:47 but I think it's actually over 10 minutes when you play it. The video I posted runs about 10:05. They may have listed it as less than 10 minutes on the album hoping that it might have a better chance of getting airplay.
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might have missed it, but one that just occurred to me which i don't think has been mentioned yet is Traffic's "The Low Spark of High-Heeled Boys"

it's bubbling under on this site, having been included in 2 all-time lists
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Bruce wrote: The live version of "Free Bird" is played as much or more often than the studio version on American radio.
I never hear the live version of "Free Bird" on the radio, it's always the studio version. And yes, I'm American.
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Greg wrote:might have missed it, but one that just occurred to me which i don't think has been mentioned yet is Traffic's "The Low Spark of High-Heeled Boys"

it's bubbling under on this site, having been included in 2 all-time lists
Thanks, it's been added.

I have put all the candidates iinto the first post.
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pauldrach wrote:El Rifle y los de Abajo are such an insignificant artist that their song should probably be removed.
pauldrach wrote:Can't find it mentioned in the English and Spanish Wikipedias, RYM or Allmusic.
Hey, you're right. And I think I admire you for saying that, and I mean it. It takes more than courage to reject the way you did. I guess that something similar would happen if I dismiss a song in a language I do not speak, just because is not found in a database created mainly on a Spanish-speaking country. (Something like, I dunno, "Hey, Todd Terje is not on wikipedia or my other sources, certainly not worth it." or "New for U, by Andrés? No wiki, not worthy.") I used to think that language was never a barrier for a music lover. Maybe I should stop thinking of music as universal and begin to doubt the quality of the music created around me. (You know, my country.) Because otherwise, I'd be saying that your sources may have some kind of tendency to english-language music, and perhaps that's why you can not find the song there. No, that would be like doubting your musical knowledge. I prefer to think I'm wrong.
But it's ok. Is not a favor to anyone if the song is on the list, anyway. I wish success to you and Bruce, especially with this list.
I'm trying to be nice here, although it bothers me a bit when someone dismisses this way something he does not know.
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Bruce wrote: The live version of "Free Bird" is played as much or more often than the studio version on American radio.
I never hear the live version of "Free Bird" on the radio, it's always the studio version. And yes, I'm American.
The live version made the top 40 as a single when it was current. I heard that one a lot all through the 70s and 80s. Maybe they've gone back to the studio version nowadays.
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Blanco wrote:Hey, you're right. And I think I admire you for saying that, and I mean it. It takes more than courage to reject the way you did. I guess that something similar would happen if I dismiss a song in a language I do not speak, just because is not found in a database created mainly on a Spanish-speaking country. (Something like, I dunno, "Hey, Todd Terje is not on wikipedia or my other sources, certainly not worth it." or "New for U, by Andrés? No wiki, not worthy.") I used to think that language was never a barrier for a music lover. Maybe I should stop thinking of music as universal and begin to doubt the quality of the music created around me. (You know, my country.) Because otherwise, I'd be saying that your sources may have some kind of tendency to english-language music, and perhaps that's why you can not find the song there. No, that would be like doubting your musical knowledge. I prefer to think I'm wrong.
But it's ok. Is not a favor to anyone if the song is on the list, anyway. I wish success to you and Bruce, especially with this list.
I'm trying to be nice here, although it bothers me a bit when someone dismisses this way something he does not know.
I'm sorry if I offended you in any way. I didn't mean to. The problem is that the DDD list is supposed to be based on objective criteria. Thus an exclusion of "Bésame Mucho" doesn't mean the track sucks or is in any way musically inferior to the stuff on the list (I mean apparently there will be a GFR song ranking pretty highly after all). It just means that the song has to be judged by those criteria and if I can't find any information on it, I naturally assume that it probably is not a very popular/acclaimed/influential track.

Of course you're still welcome to provide some sources that prove the song's worthiness according to the criteria.
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