Maybe because more album lists have been added into rankings? I think too that songs should account for more.Nick wrote:I had no idea Hank Williams was only ranked at 237 on AM. Before the last update I swear he was ranked in a pretty respectable position on the top 200. What's the reason for the big drop?
2 in, 2 out for the 90s (based on most acclaimed album, so that's considering Daft Punk is 90s which is open to discussions)Henrik wrote:There's a slight overweight of '90s artists so far though. It seems that many of these artists were pushed down but within the top 100, rather than being pushed outside of it.
Nassim wrote: 80s is the real loser, with 5 artists out and only Kate Bush in (that's sort of a spoiler in case you were rooting for Kajagoogoo, but no 80s band that didn't make it last time were even remotely close to sneak in this time)
Surprisingly enough, of the 2 artists you voted for who left the top 100, none is from the 80sMoonbeam wrote:Nassim wrote: 80s is the real loser, with 5 artists out and only Kate Bush in (that's sort of a spoiler in case you were rooting for Kajagoogoo, but no 80s band that didn't make it last time were even remotely close to sneak in this time)
HRS wrote: Jacques Brel) I knew Serge. I knew Hardy. I knew Bardot and Karina. My favorite Scott Walker record is Scott 3; that record has absolutely one of the greatest use of strings in the whole of popular music. Big Louise, Copenhagen, Rosemary, many highlights, plenty of gorgeous playing. Funeral Tango contained some of my favorite lines by Scott Walker. I always thought he was some kind of spiritual predecessor to the greatest male vocalists of the 70s. I didn't know it was a version. "Of a belgian artist called Jacques Brel, recorder ofNe Me Quitte Pas". That song was overplayed in Brazil because of a version by Maysa. Actually, those were still days I used to feel that older artists that recorded such recordings weren't worthy dig for -- they never wrote the material, they lacked the crystalline honesty of the 70s characters that went to makes the days brighter. Still, I checked his version of the song. I was impressed by his technique. Still, it took Ce Gens la to fully convert me. Brel is my first example when people came to me to argue about how the first decades of pop recorded belonged only to anglo-saxonian music. Brazil has its share of hidden gems, but Brel's influence is felt everywhere, in any language. When I think of Francophone music, I think of him. If Gainsbourg is to francophone music what Godard was to movies; Brel is like Alain Resnais: a visionary that anticipated a wave of interesting concepts, terrific executions wrapped in gorgeous arrangements, thought-provoking lyrics in otherwise well-known subjects. Viva le France!
Agreed.JimmyJazz wrote:Very interesting list so far! A diverse representation of different eras, styles, and genres of pop, a decent showing for female performers.
NCBrad wrote:EC? or BS?Nassim wrote:Coming a bit later will be one specific case where I am not 100% convinced that it was the right thing to do, but we will get to that.
I really want to make some predictions on who's out and who's in, but I don't want to spoil this for anybody potentially.Nassim wrote:2 in, 2 out for the 90s (based on most acclaimed album, so that's considering Daft Punk is 90s which is open to discussions)Henrik wrote:There's a slight overweight of '90s artists so far though. It seems that many of these artists were pushed down but within the top 100, rather than being pushed outside of it.
Thanks to Hymie and Bruce, Pre 60s have 4 more artists than they used to (based on most acclaimed album once again, at least another entry having lots of pre 60s acclaimed music).
60s stay stable with as many in as out
The 70s have more new entries (5) but are on the other saying goodbye to 3 others.
80s is the real loser, with 5 artists out and only Kate Bush in (that's sort of a spoiler in case you were rooting for Kajagoogoo, but no 80s band that didn't make it last time were even remotely close to sneak in this time)
And the new millenium also said goodbye to 3 artists/bands, 2 of them being fairly predictable I think. On the other hand, we have a new entry there... also fairly predictable based on any recent AM poll.
No, no hesitation here neither. I start to think I made the wrong call !DaveC wrote:NCBrad wrote:EC? or BS?Nassim wrote:Coming a bit later will be one specific case where I am not 100% convinced that it was the right thing to do, but we will get to that.
Hmm...my guess would have to be either Zappa or Patti Smith.Nassim wrote: Number 70 on the other hand I didn't see coming, he/she/they was/were the lowest ranked AM top 100 artist/band after half of the ballots were in (and still on the bottom 5 after reaching 2/3 of the votes). Any bet ?
Nassim wrote: Number 70 on the other hand I didn't see coming, he/she/they was/were the lowest ranked AM top 100 artist/band after half of the ballots were in (and still on the bottom 5 after reaching 2/3 of the votes). Any bet ?
Nassim wrote:Moderately Acclaimed Albums poll, AM Foreign World Cup or just constant support for his most fervent supporters helped Mr Jacques (born in the suburb I currently live in) score his best result so far. What could have been if Honorio had sent a ballot is up to your imagination.
Hi guys. Sorry Nassim for not participating. I didn't want to send again the same list I sent in 2008 and 2010 and I had no time enough to update it properly. Sadly I'm tremendously busy right now (apart of my exhausting daily work I'm preparing three conferences for next month) and I decided to participate only in a few games here (even if I read many of the other threads). And you can expect one of my exhasutive posts about The Beatles really soon.Henrik wrote:Now that's a great group! I'm so happy to see Brel in this list (even without Honorio's vote! (where are you btw? - I miss you!)). For the record, he was my #47.
I'm surprised to even see him in the top 100. Wouldn't think of him as a popular artist here. But apparently he also did quite well in 2010.Bruno wrote:Oh my ... Elton John is already gone
It has to be an artist who actually received separate votes both solo and with ensemble. PS maybe? Or MJ? If so, I'd agree it was probably the wrong call.Nassim wrote:No, no hesitation here neither. I start to think I made the wrong call !DaveC wrote:NCBrad wrote: EC? or BS?
It would be a cryin' shame if he ended up that low. Are there really that few jazz freaks out here?Dan wrote:#70 = Charles Mingus
Well, I see now that it's the first time he actually made the top 100 and considering that, #70 is a very respectable spot I guess. Still I see room for improvement here.Nassim wrote:Well you guys are harder than me to surprise cause #70 is indeed (sorry pauldrach)
Charles Mingus
Dan wrote:
Love the way you describe your feelings about music.
Thanks, Dan! We haven't spoken about it for quite a while! Miss speaking to you!Sorry that I’ve neglected you, my friend. I’m at a crossroads where I have to make decisions about my future that will affect nearly every aspect of my life. It’s a bad habit of mine to shut people out at times like these, while the necessary thoughts go round and round my head. Like a fucking washing machine.HRS wrote:Miss speaking to you!
But I miss our communications too. I’ve just sent you a PM about catching up on Skype.I wonder the same thing. And not just in this poll, but on AM in general. In the AM ranking of top artists, New Order is the 61st, and Joy Division the 49. How much would achieve together? It's something we'll never know.Jackson wrote:New Order: I wonder how high a combined Joy Division / New Order entrant would place.
I remember Henrik saying that Joy Order (or New Division) would be in the top 20 artists on AM. When you compare the combined album/song rankings of Joy Division and New Order against the current number 20 artist, Nirvana, it's easy to see how that would be the case.Blanco wrote:I wonder the same thing. And not just in this poll, but on AM in general. In the AM ranking of top artists, New Order is the 61st, and Joy Division the 49. How much would achieve together? It's something we'll never know.Jackson wrote:New Order: I wonder how high a combined Joy Division / New Order entrant would place.
Except maybe if Henrik tells us.
For the poll I will tell you that after Joy Division ranking is revealed ! (taking the best vote on everyone's ballot, though both combined might have been voted higher, but that I can not know ^^ )Blanco wrote:I wonder the same thing. And not just in this poll, but on AM in general. In the AM ranking of top artists, New Order is the 61st, and Joy Division the 49. How much would achieve together? It's something we'll never know.Jackson wrote:New Order: I wonder how high a combined Joy Division / New Order entrant would place.
Except maybe if Henrik tells us.
I can think of 4 artists from the new millennium who aren't probably going to show up who showed up on the last poll-Nassim wrote: And the new millenium also said goodbye to 3 artists/bands, 2 of them being fairly predictable I think. On the other hand, we have a new entry there... also fairly predictable based on any recent AM poll.
You are right, I miscounted. One of them came pretty close, just one more vote, even at #100 would have make it top 100. The other 3 on the other hand are respectively 149th, 165th and 173th...Nick wrote:I can think of 4 artists from the new millennium who aren't probably going to show up who showed up on the last poll-Nassim wrote: And the new millenium also said goodbye to 3 artists/bands, 2 of them being fairly predictable I think. On the other hand, we have a new entry there... also fairly predictable based on any recent AM poll.
TS, AC, G, and C
Is one of these artists going to make an appearance or did you miscount, Nassim?
And I'm sure anyone who's been paying attention to the music press in the last 3 years can guess the new millennium's addition to this poll...
Hmm...CRJ, perhaps?Nick wrote:I can think of 4 artists from the new millennium who aren't probably going to show up who showed up on the last poll-Nassim wrote: And the new millenium also said goodbye to 3 artists/bands, 2 of them being fairly predictable I think. On the other hand, we have a new entry there... also fairly predictable based on any recent AM poll.
TS, AC, G, and C
Is one of these artists going to make an appearance or did you miscount, Nassim?
And I'm sure anyone who's been paying attention to the music press in the last 3 years can guess the new millennium's addition to this poll...
Yupp, that is the C you're thinking of. And yes, they actually placed a pretty respectable position back in 2010. Around the mid 70's if I recall correctly.Listyguy wrote:Hmm...CRJ, perhaps?Nick wrote:I can think of 4 artists from the new millennium who aren't probably going to show up who showed up on the last poll-Nassim wrote: And the new millenium also said goodbye to 3 artists/bands, 2 of them being fairly predictable I think. On the other hand, we have a new entry there... also fairly predictable based on any recent AM poll.
TS, AC, G, and C
Is one of these artists going to make an appearance or did you miscount, Nassim?
And I'm sure anyone who's been paying attention to the music press in the last 3 years can guess the new millennium's addition to this poll...
Also, was C really in our top 100 in '10? If it's the C I'm think of (that gave us VLV), I'm rather surprised they were ranked that high.
Gotta agree with you on both points. mbv was "Just like Loveless, now with more drone!" to these earsluvulongTIM wrote:Not that I hate Blur but like the fact I wouldn't even rank MBV amongst my top 10 shoegaze/dreampop bands I wouldn't rank Blur anywhere near my top 20 favorite britpop bands.
Well, first off there's this Ian Curtis thing.DaveC wrote:I don't like to think of Joy Division/New Order as one entity. They are quite different bands to my ears
Lol! You bring up a good point. Of course, if we do the "career rating" thing, the prospects of Eric Clapton getting into the AMTop 100 is inevitable (something many on this forum, including myself, may not find too pleasing!)DocBrown wrote:Well, first off there's this Ian Curtis thing.DaveC wrote:I don't like to think of Joy Division/New Order as one entity. They are quite different bands to my ears
Also, if we start grouping closely related bands (i.e.: vanity projects, supergroups) to develop a "career" rating, where do you draw the line? For example, Jack White's solo output (one album to date) obviously relates to his output with the White Stripes. But then, the Raconteurs is obviously a Jack White band, so do we group them in as well? And the Dead Weather, well that's mostly Jack White, with Alison Mosshart on vocals, right? And then there's that Van Lear Rose album, obviously a Jack White album...
But wait....there's more!....DocBrown wrote:Well, first off there's this Ian Curtis thing.DaveC wrote:I don't like to think of Joy Division/New Order as one entity. They are quite different bands to my ears
Also, if we start grouping closely related bands (i.e.: vanity projects, supergroups) to develop a "career" rating, where do you draw the line? For example, Jack White's solo output (one album to date) obviously relates to his output with the White Stripes. But then, the Raconteurs is obviously a Jack White band, so do we group them in as well? And the Dead Weather, well that's mostly Jack White, with Alison Mosshart on vocals, right? And then there's that Van Lear Rose album, obviously a Jack White album...
