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Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Listyguy » Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:38 pm

Ok, so I'm wondering if there's anyway to reset the program?

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by John » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:36 pm

Unzip everything into a new folder like when you first set it up and then copy your Album List.txt from the current folder into the new one. Maybe there is a better way, but that should work.

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Moonbeam » Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:10 pm

John wrote:Unzip everything into a new folder like when you first set it up and then copy your Album List.txt from the current folder into the new one. Maybe there is a better way, but that should work.
This will work. Another way is to do the following:

1. Open the "Album Ranker.txt" file.
2. Change the line "reset.all = F" to "reset.all = T" and save.
3. Run the Album Ranker program once.
4. Open the "Album Ranker.txt" file.
5. Change the line back to "reset.all = F".

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Zorg » Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:55 pm

Quick question. Is your guide Windows only? I recommended this to my friend (a mac user), so we downloaded and installed the Mac version of it, but it still doesn't work. He gave me this screenshot, and I could make nothing of it - http://i.imgur.com/XVelo.png

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Moonbeam » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:00 am

This is indeed a Windows guide only. I have no expertise with Mac, but I imagine it should be ok. My feeling is that perhaps the spaces in the program/folder name may be an issue? If that's the case, the "Album List.txt" file and "Album Ranker.txt" file will need to be renamed to remove the space, AND within the "Album Ranker.txt" file, the reference to "Album List.txt" would need to be changed.

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Henrik » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:23 pm

Moonbeam, does your latest version give higher weights to recent votes? If so, could you please post the link to where I can find the program. Thanks!

Edit: I just started on a new txt file with over 800 songs. How many match-ups are needed before I get a proper ranking? After about 20 matchups the #1 is a song that has not been included in a matchup yet.
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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Stephan » Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:21 pm

I would imagine the songs need to be matched with other songs at least once, so 400 matchups, but it took me about 200-300 matchups to get a decent list out of 100 albums. If that means you'd need 1600-2400 matchups, I don't know.

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Greg Rumpff » Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:27 pm

I'd also like the link for downloading the program....

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:12 am

Henrik wrote:Moonbeam, does your latest version give higher weights to recent votes? If so, could you please post the link to where I can find the program. Thanks!

Edit: I just started on a new txt file with over 800 songs. How many match-ups are needed before I get a proper ranking? After about 20 matchups the #1 is a song that has not been included in a matchup yet.
Hi Henrik,

There is no weighting for time of comparison. That's something I'm considering adding in the future (once I'm done with my PhD!).

To answer your next question, it depends on your definition of "proper". The default setting is to cycle through songs by number of matchups, so songs that have featured in the fewest matchups should come up first. My own song list has around 2450 songs and I'm starting to get happy with the results after each song has been in about 15 matchups.

For anyone who wants it, here is the download link to the program and instructions on how to use it!

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by John » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:59 pm

15 times around is where I started to be happy with the results as well on both my albums and movie lists.

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Brad » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:59 pm

Hi Moonbeam!

Any chance you could "re-share" this program? Mine got wiped out and it looks like all the file shares have expired again.

Thanks in advance!

EDIT: Actually, I was able to recover, so I'm good!

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Stephan » Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:20 am

Hey MB, if you want I can host it on my website so it doesn't expire.

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Maschine_Man » Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:47 pm

Hello! Long time lurker, big time fan of the site!

I have always wondered how you folk rank your albums and songs. This program seems like the answer. I'd love to have a look and see how you calculate.

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:29 pm

Stephan wrote:Hey MB, if you want I can host it on my website so it doesn't expire.
That would be great! Can you send me your email address so I can send it to you?

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Stephan » Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:36 am

You have a PM!

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Stephan » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:16 pm

Here's a link to version 3.0 of Moonbeam's Album Ranker: http://www.neoptolemos.com/AM/AM%20Albu ... %203.0.zip

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by TimmyWing » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:33 pm

Thank you so much - I've been looking for this everywhere!

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Zorg » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:35 pm

I thought I'd just mention that you should make sure that none of your titles end with a ' " '. I attempted to make a songs list with Liz Phair's 6'1" in it and this occurred! I was left half terrified for a moment.
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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Brad » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:58 am

that same thing happened to me... it went nuts! (now the song is called "6-1")

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Henrik » Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:35 pm

Would it be possible to create an online version of the program, where we would all have access to the same list? Perhaps it would be possible to set it up with a check-in/check-out function, and limit the number of votes to say 10 per day and person. That would be really cool, wouldn't it?
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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Moonbeam » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:25 am

Henrik wrote:Would it be possible to create an online version of the program, where we would all have access to the same list? Perhaps it would be possible to set it up with a check-in/check-out function, and limit the number of votes to say 10 per day and person. That would be really cool, wouldn't it?
That would be cool! What list(s) did you have in mind? The top 3000 albums and songs? If so, I'd suggest a slight variation on the scoring so that it doesn't take so long to converge. I'd also wonder how we could prevent a situation whereby 2 people are accessing the list at the same time. It sounds like a blast, though!

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Henrik » Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:55 am

Moonbeam wrote:
Henrik wrote:Would it be possible to create an online version of the program, where we would all have access to the same list? Perhaps it would be possible to set it up with a check-in/check-out function, and limit the number of votes to say 10 per day and person. That would be really cool, wouldn't it?
That would be cool! What list(s) did you have in mind? The top 3000 albums and songs? If so, I'd suggest a slight variation on the scoring so that it doesn't take so long to converge. I'd also wonder how we could prevent a situation whereby 2 people are accessing the list at the same time. It sounds like a blast, though!
Yes, the albums and songs on AM could be used. I would love that of course! Whatever the list is, an "I don't know both albums" option would probably be necessary.

Anyone here who can create a mobile app? Doesn't it sound great with an app where you could hear samples from songs and then order them to contribute to a massive collaborative list!? It sounds to me like it could be the way to wealth!! You already have a filter function, so it would probably not be difficult to arrange so that people could choose to compare songs from say a specific genre (if we add genre tags), year or the all-time top 100.
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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Moonbeam » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:36 pm

Henrik wrote:
Moonbeam wrote:
Henrik wrote:Would it be possible to create an online version of the program, where we would all have access to the same list? Perhaps it would be possible to set it up with a check-in/check-out function, and limit the number of votes to say 10 per day and person. That would be really cool, wouldn't it?
That would be cool! What list(s) did you have in mind? The top 3000 albums and songs? If so, I'd suggest a slight variation on the scoring so that it doesn't take so long to converge. I'd also wonder how we could prevent a situation whereby 2 people are accessing the list at the same time. It sounds like a blast, though!
Yes, the albums and songs on AM could be used. I would love that of course! Whatever the list is, an "I don't know both albums" option would probably be necessary.

Anyone here who can create a mobile app? Doesn't it sound great with an app where you could hear samples from songs and then order them to contribute to a massive collaborative list!? It sounds to me like it could be the way to wealth!! You already have a filter function, so it would probably not be difficult to arrange so that people could choose to compare songs from say a specific genre (if we add genre tags), year or the all-time top 100.
I'm on board! Baby's due any day now, though, so I wouldn't be able to contribute right away.

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Henrik » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:00 pm

Moonbeam wrote:I'm on board!
Wow, cool! I didn't think my ideas were very realistic...!

Most of all though, GOOD LUCK WITH THE BABY!!!
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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Listyguy » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:39 pm

Henrik wrote: Anyone here who can create a mobile app?
I know java, but that's about it.

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Sweepstakes Ron » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:55 pm

Sorry to bring this back up after so long, but I have a question. If you're adding albums/songs to the list in Excel, do you have to manually add the ID numbers?
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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Zorg » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:13 am

If I may answer, you don't have to put an ID column in your text file, though it is nice to have one in your excel file, so you can reorganise the list however you like. So the answer is no, but it's better if you do.

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Sweepstakes Ron » Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:51 pm

Okay, I have a problem. When I opened the program, it was set to set=artist("Elton John"). So I tried putting it to set="balanced", but when I tried to start the comparison cycle, I got this message:

Error in sample.int(length(x), size, replace, prob) :
cannot take a sample larger than the population when 'replace = FALSE'

I tried setting it to set=artist("Gorillaz") and it worked as it is supposed to. I tried to set it back to set="balanced" again, and it didn't work.

Has anyone else faced this problem?


EDIT: Wow, stupid me. The command is "balance", not "balanced". It's working fine now.
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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Listyguy » Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:34 am

Sorry to resurrect this, but I'm getting an "Error in rep(0, add) : invalid 'times' argument" error when I try to source("Album Ranker.txt"). Any idea why this is happening?

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by Bruno » Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:05 pm

Hi Moonbeam, where can I find your program?

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Re: Question for Moonbeam (about his program)

Post by babydoll » Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:42 pm

Bruno wrote:Hi Moonbeam, where can I find your program?
The link Stephan provided for us is where you can find it. Remember to make sure you read Moonbeam's directions very carefully...

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