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Andre wrote:
Henrik wrote:... but I couldn't find any information that it was released in Europe before the US ...
Could be that I have misunderstood you now, but here are the links to the European releases in 1983:

France, Germany and Holland: https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album ... _crawl_f5/
Italy: https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album ... _crawl_f8/
UK: https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album ... crawl_f15/
What I meant is that I haven't found a sentence saying "The album was first released on WEA and Real in Europe...". As far as I can tell, the only thing that indicates a 1983 release in Europe is the copyright year. However, the copyright is 1983 in the US as well, although the release date is known to be January 11, 1984.
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:violence-duel:

Rate Your Music has the Pretenders' first album released on January 19, 1980; yet out of the 21 issues of the album, RYM also lists a 1979 issue, by Real Records (issue# RAL 56 774) in Germany.

Curiously, the infamous Bruce at Digital Dream Door has the album listed at 1979, in the Top Ten Rock Albums of Each Year 1970-1979 section. But asking him about it is a bit out of the realm of possibility.

Anyway, what does all this mean??


January 19, 1980 main page
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/ ... retenders/

1979
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/ ... nders_f14/
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I remember there was a discussion about this at DDD. I'll see if I can find it.
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Excerpts from a DDD discussion on the top albums of 1980:
Bruce wrote:
Brian wrote:I don't have a problem with any of the points that you raised, but you might want to look into whether The Pretenders debut was really released in 1980. I checked out a Pretenders box set from a library a couple years ago, and I think I remember the booklet saying that it was released in the UK in December 1979.
This agrees with you.

https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album ... nders_f14/

If we're gonna make it 1979 we've got to change it on the decade lists, and move it to the top ten of 1979 instead of 1980. I'd be happy about that, getting rid of that Police album that's #10 now for 1979.
Brett Alan wrote:Wikipedia and (perhaps more importantly) Goldmine magazine also say it was released in the UK in the last days of '79. Good catch, Brian. Let's move it.
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Forgot About Dre doesn't appear on Eminem's page (while he clearly is the star of the track ;) )
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Most of the list links in the the excel 2013 songs are links from 2012
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I see that the works mentionend in ZEIT's 100 Modern Classics (viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1143) get valued by their "rank" from 1 to 100. But, from my understanding, the numbers don't represent a ranking. They just represent the chronological order of the appearance in the series. I just can't find any evidence for a ranking structure and think the entries should appear with a "No Order" badge.
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pauldrach wrote:Excerpts from a DDD discussion on the top albums of 1980:
Bruce wrote:
Brian wrote:I don't have a problem with any of the points that you raised, but you might want to look into whether The Pretenders debut was really released in 1980. I checked out a Pretenders box set from a library a couple years ago, and I think I remember the booklet saying that it was released in the UK in December 1979.
This agrees with you.

https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album ... nders_f14/

If we're gonna make it 1979 we've got to change it on the decade lists, and move it to the top ten of 1979 instead of 1980. I'd be happy about that, getting rid of that Police album that's #10 now for 1979.
Brett Alan wrote:Wikipedia and (perhaps more importantly) Goldmine magazine also say it was released in the UK in the last days of '79. Good catch, Brian. Let's move it.
I don't think this information is reliable. Wikipedia has changed the date to 1980 and the Goldmine article I found talks about a US release in 1979. I'm gonna stay with 1980.
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Henrik, you've probably already noticed this and are possibly fixing it as I type, but special character letters in bands/artists names aren't appearing right. Basically it seems the letter itself has disappeared, but not the unique punctuations.

For example, "Björk" appears as "Bjˆrk" on your site.

Hopefully this can be a quick-fix, but yeah...
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digitalwitness wrote:Henrik, you've probably already noticed this and are possibly fixing it as I type, but special character letters in bands/artists names aren't appearing right. Basically it seems the letter itself has disappeared, but not the unique punctuations.

For example, "Björk" appears as "Bjˆrk" on your site.

Hopefully this can be a quick-fix, but yeah...
I don't have this problem. Everything appears normally.
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Sorry, yeah, there's no problem, haha! I use a Mac, and the default font on mine is a Mac-exclusive font. Basically it's Western, but for some reason punctuation is different on Macs apparently.

I changed the font to the casual Western font that everyone else uses and there's no problems, haha!
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Robert Christgau's rating for Prince Paul's A Prince Among Thieves is missing. He gave it an A.
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Song "Wear You to the Ball" from U-Roy seems to be sung in collaboration with John Holt
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/singl ... _the_ball/
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Tiny error: Bob Merserau (Canada) - The Top 100 Canadian Singles of All Time (2010)

The guy's name is spelled "Mersereau"

also "Paste (USA) - The 80 Best Albums of the 1990s (2012)" should be called "Paste (USA) - The 90 Best Albums of the 1990s (2012)"
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"No Rain" by Blind Melon was released in 1992, not 1993: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Rain
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A Great Link in Critic Lists for "Dave Marsh - 1001 greatest singles ever made"

http://www.lexjansen.com/marsh/
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An Error concerning album "The Abyssinians / Satta Massagana".
It's mentionned in 100 essentials cds from the rough guide to reggae, but not in AM.
http://osmelhoresdiscos.blogspot.fr/201 ... l-cds.html

In the rough guide to Latin, mentionned "Getz/Gilberto" from Stan Getz and João Gilberto
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1858287332/ref ... _lists.htm
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The Wallflowers song "6th Avenue Heartache" is listed as "6th Avenue Heartbreak."
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Dillard & Clark's page doesn't work (thanks Rock & Folk).
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Late of the Pier's artist page is broken.

Also, why is Chris Bell under the Cs in the Artist lists?
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John Coltrane & Johnny Hartman 1963 appears on the MOJO 1000 but not on the album link
Gang Starr's "Step In The Arena" was released on 1991 January the 15th (RYM is wrong on this one)
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SWV "Right Here" was released in September 1992
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Hej Henrik,

Mad About The Boy from Dinah Washington is listed as 1961 song in AM, but both RYM and discogs.com have it already mentioned as 1952 single. Perhaps I am overseeing something, but this 1952 single version looks genuine...

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"Duke Of Earl" from Gene Chandler should be listed as 1961, not 1962.

The album "The Duke Of Earl" was released in 1962, the single "Duke Of Earl / Kissin' In The Kitchen" already in 1961.
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Myth Takes of !!! is 7 on scaruffi
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Allmusic and Wikipedia says that Tarkus by Emerson, Lake & Palmer was released before Pictures at an Exhibition, so the two albums should be switched in ELP's artist page.

Also, Ant's Marching by Dave Matthews Band was first released on Under the Table and Dreaming in 1994, not 1995.
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At the top banner of AM, whenever Steely Dan appears, "Aja" is shown as their most acclaimed album, when "Pretzel Logic" is their real most acclaimed album.
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mattschroeder wrote:The link to the band Late of the Pier appears to be broken.
This link is still broken :whistle:
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For some reason "ZEIT (Germany) - 100 Modern Classics (2007)" is listed twice in the All Critics Lists section
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"Respectable" was by Mel and Kim, not Mel and Tim, a different act.
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List of artists that show the wrong album on the top banner.

Charles Mingus (Black Saint and Sinner Lady instead of Mingus Ah Um)
New Order (Technique instead of Power, Corruption & Lies)
PJ Harvey (To Bring You Love instead of Let England Shake, this one's particularly bad as clicking on the link to the artist's page brings you to an older version of the site.)
Nick Cave (Abattoir Blues / The Lyre of Orpheus instead of The Boatman's Call)
Herbie Hancock (Maiden Voyage instead of Head Hunters)
Frank Sinatra (Songs for Swingin' Lovers! instead of In the Wee Small Hours)
Stevie Wonder (Songs in the Key of Life instead of Innervisions)
Tom Waits (Swordfishtrombones instead of Rain Dogs)
Randy Newman (12 Songs instead of Sail Away)
Steely Dan (Aja instead of Pretzel Logic)
OutKast (Speakerboxxx / The Love Below instead of Stankonia)
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Also shouldn't the top album for German artists on the top banner show The Velvet Underground & Nico instead of Trans-Europe-Express? Or is this on purpose because The Velvet Underground & Nico isn't considered a "German" album?

edit: And while I'm on it, why does the Japan one show Soul Discharge: 1999 instead of Double Fantasy (or, for that matter, any other Japanese album that is at least in the top 3000)?
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Joao Gilberto has an album bubbling under from 1960, called Brazil's Brilliant/Gilberto and Jobim according to this site. RYM and Wiki say that Gilberto released an album called O amor, o sorriso e a flor in 1960.

https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album ... _e_a_flor/

I found this page on RYM:

https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album ... brilliant/

According to that, an album called Brazil's Brilliant was released in 1961. Actually you can see from the issues on that page, that they are the same album. So what I'm getting at is that I think the 1960 album should be named on this site as O amor, o sorriso e a flor/Brazil's Brilliant, or just O amor, o sorriso e a flor perhaps.
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Krurze wrote:Also shouldn't the top album for German artists on the top banner show The Velvet Underground & Nico instead of Trans-Europe-Express? Or is this on purpose because The Velvet Underground & Nico isn't considered a "German" album?

edit: And while I'm on it, why does the Japan one show Soul Discharge: 1999 instead of Double Fantasy (or, for that matter, any other Japanese album that is at least in the top 3000)?
Why would The Velvet Underground & Nico be considered a German album? Nico is a German singer, sure, but the entire Velvet Underground are from New York City. I think the entire band's origins trump Nico's.
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Well, upon clicking the banner you get directed to the German artists page, and from there you can jump to Nico's page where TVU&N is listed. So basically I thought the banner would represent the most-acclaimed album an artist from that country was involved in. But I can definitely see that it makes more sense to see TVU&N as an American album and thus exclude it from the top German albums.

This probably also applies to Double Fantasy. But it still doesn't make sense to display Soul Discharge: 1999 as the top Japanese album. It should be Boredoms' Vision Creation Newsun
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Paul Gambaccini - The World Critics Best Albums of All Time (1977) and (1987) links are broken. Here are the lists:

http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/stevepar ... _lists.htm
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RYM claims The Everly Brothers' debut album was first released in December 1957, not 1958 as AM says.

https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album ... nd_rolling_/

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For the song "Nuages" Stéphane Grappelli is misspelled "Stephanie".
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Coati Mundi's "Me No Pop I" seems to be from 1980.

http://www.discogs.com/Kid-Creole-The-C ... ster/65722
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Shouldn't Solo Dancer by Charles Mingus be called Track A - Solo Dancer?
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Searching for french albums in EOY lists, i noticed that "Dimanche à Bamako" from Amadou & Mariam was not in this eoy list on AM (N°34)
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AM says Spanish Harlem by Ben E. King is 1960 yet the spreadsheet says it's 1961.
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Emmylou Harris' "One of These Days" is listed as a 1976 song, while it was first released on the "Elite Hotel" album (which came out December 29, 1975, so that's pretty close).
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Artist link "Athlete" doesn't work.
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Spread Your Love by Black Rebel Motorcycle Club is from 2001, not 2002.
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Already mentioned this at the 1960 songs poll, but just that it does not get forgotten:

Currently listed as 1960 on AM, but Nina Simone's "Black Is the Color of My True Love's Hair" was already released in 1959 on her live album Nina Simone at Town Hall.
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The top banner on the homepage displays "The Stone Roses" as 1989's most acclaimed album, it should be "Doolittle"
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According to Wikipedia, Lead Belly has recorded The Midnight Special as early as 1934.
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Curiously, Alex Chilton is listed under "A" with the entry "Alex".
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