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UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by slick » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:39 am

Vote for your favorites. Artists have been reseeded for the round of 64...

Bob Dylan vs. Van Morrison
Neil Young vs. Pink Floyd
U2 vs. The Velvet Underground
Radiohead vs. Talking Heads
The Who vs. Otis Redding
Marvin Gaye vs. Pearl Jam
Stevie Wonder vs. Nine Inch Nails
Bruce Springsteen vs. The Smashing Pumpkins

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by slick » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:40 am

Dylan
Floyd
U2
Radiohead
Otis
PJ
NIN
Springsteen

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Henry » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:50 am

Bob Dylan (closer for me than most)
Pink Floyd (close call)
U2 (VU will win among the AMers)
Radiohead
The Who (My initial call that Otis will win among the AMers, seems to be incorrect)
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Bruce Springsteen
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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Zorg » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:55 am

Bob Dylan vs. Van Morrison
Neil Young vs. Pink Floyd
U2 vs. The Velvet Underground
Radiohead vs. Talking Heads
The Who vs. Otis Redding
Marvin Gaye vs. Pearl Jam
Stevie Wonder vs. Nine Inch Nails
Bruce Springsteen vs. The Smashing Pumpkins

Surprisingly easy matchups, the only one I winced for slightly was the Radiohead/Heads one, but even that one was pretty comfortable.

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Nick » Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:26 am

Bob Dylan
Pink Floyd
The Velvet Underground
Radiohead
The Who
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Bruce Springsteen

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by John » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:19 am

Bob Dylan- If I had to choose one album by either of these guys I might choose Moondance. Bob Dylan's catalog wins by a landslide though.

Pink Floyd- I'm racking my brain here but I think along with the Beatles, they are the only bands who had two distinct eras where I'm a huge fan of both. The only other artists I can think of are Bowie, but I'm not a "huge" fan of anything outside his 69-72 era and Radiohead, where I used to be a huge fan of post OK Computer album but not so much anymore.

The Velvet Underground- Every tournament we do I have to begrudgingly vote for U2 because of the matchups until I finally get the "not even close" vote. Here's that vote.

Radiohead- Very tough choice here and it just came down to the best album and OK Computer wins over More Songs About Buildings and Food.

The Who- Gotta say, I think Otis Redding is a fantastic performer especially his performance at Monterey Pop, but I haven't heard anything that has ever wowed me on album. For some reason I just can't hear the energy of his live show in the studio. It's still good stuff, but I don't think it's bonafide classic.

Marvin Gaye- Some really good singles, but he gets an easy matchup in the round of 64 against one of my least favorite artists of the grunge era.

Stevie Wonder- I always though NIN sounded cool, but I never became a fan. I don't know if I've ever listened to one of their albums in full. Doesn't matter, Stevie would have beat all but 3 bands in this bracket. I think I've listened to Talking Book more than any other album in the past year. No, I don't think I have, I know I have and it's by a large margin.

Bruce Springsteen- I've warmed up to Bruce in the past couple years. I never could stand his voice, and I still have some issues with it, but once I got past it and listened to the full albums I grew to really like most of his music.

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Midaso » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:29 am

Bob Dylan
Neil Young
U2
Radiohead
The Who
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Bruce Springsteen

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Evan » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:54 am

How were artists reseeded? Just curious.

Bob Dylan
Pink Floyd
The Velvet Underground
Radiohead
The Who
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Bruce Springsteen

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Moonbeam » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:54 am

Bob Dylan: 4 vs. Van Morrison: 11

The AM World Cup introduced me to some Van Morrison songs that I quite enjoy. What do you guys think might be a good album for me to explore first?

Neil Young: 6 vs. Pink Floyd: 1

Not a strong matchup. Neil Young wins by default over an artist I really don't like.

U2: 17 vs. The Velvet Underground: 18

Both of these artists drawf all 4 previous artists. If you asked me 5 years ago, this would have easily gone to U2, but I think I appreciate them much more on a song basis than on an album basis, while VU has 2 incredible albums and another good one.

Radiohead: 15 vs. Talking Heads: 18

I've grown to quite like Radiohead, but I think they'll peak around 120 or so in my artist list. I used to not really like Talking Heads, but Speaking in Tongues totally won me over. Then Remain in Light and Fear of Music followed suit and the rest is history.

The Who: 0 vs. Otis Redding: 16

It will disgust me to no end if the moribund The Who wins this. I have not heard anything even remotely noteworthy among the 20 or so songs I've heard of theirs, whereas Otis Redding is a true treasure.

Marvin Gaye: 13 vs. Pearl Jam: 5

Pearl Jam was one of many bands that made me flee the popular music scene of the 90s. I used to not really care for Marvin, but I'm coming around.

Stevie Wonder: 19 vs. Nine Inch Nails: 14

Stevie Wonder is easily my favorite artist this week. His music is edifying to me. Nine Inch Nails is quite good, but outclassed here.

Bruce Springsteen: 10 vs. The Smashing Pumpkins: 8

Not a strong matchup. "Dancing in the Dark" basically wins this for Bruce. I used to loathe The Smashing Pumpkins and Billy Corgan's voice in particular, but I've warmed up a little bit to them over the years.

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Romain » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:17 am

Van Morrison
Pink Floyd
The Velvet Underground
Radiohead
The Who
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Pass

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Otisredding » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:58 am

Bob Dylan
Neil Young
The Velvet Underground
Talking Heads
Otis Redding
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Bruce Springsteen

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Michel » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:39 am

Bob Dylan
Pink Floyd
The Velvet Underground
Radiohead
The Who
Marvin Gaye
Nine Inch Nails
Bruce Springsteen

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Henrik » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:56 am

Bob Dylan #35 vs. Van Morrison
Neil Young #30 vs. Pink Floyd #12
U2 #20 vs. The Velvet Underground #42
Radiohead #9 vs. Talking Heads #63
The Who vs. Otis Redding
Marvin Gaye #18 vs. Pearl Jam
Stevie Wonder #14 vs. Nine Inch Nails
Bruce Springsteen #17 vs. The Smashing Pumpkins #59
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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Stephan » Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:13 am

1. Bob Dylan
2. Bruce Springsteen
3. The Who
4. Neil Young
5. U2
6. The Velvet Underground
7. Pink Floyd
8. Van Morrison
9. Otis Redding
10. Marvin Gaye
11. Stevie Wonder
12. Talking Heads
13. The Smashing Pumpkins
14. Pearl Jam
15. Radiohead
16. Nine Inch Nails

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by nicolas » Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:33 am

Bob Dylan (I love Van the man )
Neil Young
The Velvet Underground
Radiohead (2 bands I don't care much about)
The Who
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder (are you kidding ?)
Bruce Springsteen

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Nassim » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:31 am

Bob Dylan (complicated choice, I love one album from both and can not get into much of their other output, I probably enjoy Astral Weeks a bit more than Highway 61, but I know a fistful of other Dylan songs I like while so far other Van Morrison music has left me cold... On the other hand there is nothing from Van Morrison I dislike as much as Blood on Tracks so yeah, close call, won't change the final result anyway !)
Pink Floyd
The Velvet Underground
Radiohead
The Who
Pearl Jam
Stevie Wonder
The Smashing Pumpkins

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Gillingham » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:18 am

Bob Dylan
Neil Young
The Velvet Underground
Radiohead
Otis Redding
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Bruce Springsteen

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Kingoftonga » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:12 am

Bob Dylan
Neil Young
U2
Radiohead
The Who
Pearl Jam
Stevie Wonder
Bruce Springsteen

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Schwah » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:46 am

Bob Dylan
Neil Young
The Velvet Underground
Radiohead
Otis Redding
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Bruce Springsteen

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Greg » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:01 pm

Van Morrison
Neil Young
U2
Talking Heads
The Who
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Bruce Springsteen

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Greg » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:12 pm

Henry wrote: The Who (Otis will win among the AMers)
doesn't look like this prediction will pan out

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Jirin » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:19 pm

Bob Dylan
Neil Young
The Velvet Underground
Radiohead
The Who (Only close one of the day)
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Bruce Springsteen

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by SuperFurry » Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:06 pm

Bob Dylan
Neil Young
Velvet Underground
Radiohead
The Who
Pearl Jam
Nine Inch Nails
Bruce Springsteen

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Brad » Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:35 pm

Bob Dylan
Pink Floyd
The Velvet Underground
Radiohead
The Who
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Bruce Springsteen

Thanks!

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by sonofsamiam » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:07 pm

Bob Dylan
Neil Young
The Velvet Underground
Radiohead
The Who
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Bruce Springsteen

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Spaz » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:26 pm

Bob Dylan
Pink Floyd
U2
Radiohead
The Who
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Bruce Springsteen

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by dr_Robert » Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:30 pm

Bob Dylan
Neil Young
U2
Radiohead
Otis Redding
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Bruce Springsteen

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by slick » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:34 pm

Evan wrote:How were artists reseeded? Just curious...

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By using the scores accumulated in the second round, the totals were ranked 1 through 16. If any of the top 8 were defeated in the round of 128, the artist with the lowest point total would be matched up against the highest point total.

For example, Otis Redding who had the 11th highest point total beat Paul Simon in the last round so instead of going up against Stevie Wonder he was reseeded to face The Who which had the highest point total of that grouping. The Smashing Pumpkins which would have faced The Who now matches up against Springsteen and Nine Inch Nails moves up a spot and faces Stevie Wonder. I hope that makes sense, maybe 8 or 9 of the 32 matchups in this round were affected by reseeding, in the brackets where all the favorites won nothing changed

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Listyguy » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:59 pm

Dylan
Pass
U2
Radiohead (I remember these to also faced off in last year's UMT)
Who (Another great match)
Pearl Jam
Stevie
Bruce

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by slick » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:08 am

RESULTS... (42) voters...

Bob Dylan over Van Morrison (33-9)
Pink Floyd over Neil Young (22-19)
U2 over The Velvet Underground (25-17)
Radiohead over Talking Heads (30-12)
The Who over Otis Redding (31-11)
Marvin Gaye over Pearl Jam (27-15)
Stevie Wonder over Nine Inch Nails (32-10)
Bruce Springsteen over The Smashing Pumpkins (34-7)

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Moonbeam » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:40 am

slick wrote: The Who over Otis Redding (31-11)
Shameful.

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Henry » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:30 am

slick wrote:RESULTS... (42) voters...

Bob Dylan over Van Morrison (33-9)
Pink Floyd over Neil Young (22-19)
U2 over The Velvet Underground (25-17)
Radiohead over Talking Heads (30-12)
The Who over Otis Redding (31-11)
Marvin Gaye over Pearl Jam (27-15)
Stevie Wonder over Nine Inch Nails (32-10)
Bruce Springsteen over The Smashing Pumpkins (34-7)
I am interested in the AMer / non-AMer break down for the U2 / VU vote.

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by slick » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:59 am

Henry wrote:
slick wrote:RESULTS... (42) voters...

Bob Dylan over Van Morrison (33-9)
Pink Floyd over Neil Young (22-19)
U2 over The Velvet Underground (25-17)
Radiohead over Talking Heads (30-12)
The Who over Otis Redding (31-11)
Marvin Gaye over Pearl Jam (27-15)
Stevie Wonder over Nine Inch Nails (32-10)
Bruce Springsteen over The Smashing Pumpkins (34-7)
I am interested in the AMer / non-AMer break down for the U2 / VU vote.
AM had VU +6 / Non AM U2 +14

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by Jirin » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:34 pm

What's the have ever listened to Velvet Underground/have never listened to Velvet Underground split? :P

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Re: UMT 2012: Round of 64 #1

Post by slick » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:54 pm

Jirin wrote:What's the have ever listened to Velvet Underground/have never listened to Velvet Underground split? :P
Some of them are VU fans and struggled a bit, a few others are at least familiar with them. But U2 won this tournament in it's innaugural year in 2004 and fits the profiles of a majority of e-mail voters who are in their late 30's and grew up on 80's rock, U2, R.E.M., GNR, Depeche, VH, def leppard etc... I would imagine there may only be 3 or 4 that are not all that familiar with VU.

I would say out of the 20-25 people I invited into this, 9 or 10 fit right in line with AMers. Probably another 9 or 10 really fit the profile in the above paragraph and then there are a few oddballs with an extreme ecclectic taste in music.

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