Ranking the Top 100 Albums

andyd1010 · Post by **andyd1010** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:51 pm

StevieFan13 · Post by **StevieFan13** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:52 pm

I'm also more a song listener than an album listener, and I think participating in this forum will change that a lot.

Listyguy · Post by **Listyguy** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:33 pm

I did this twice-in 2011 and 2012, so it's been a while but most of the albums are still the same (if not in different positions). Maybe I'll do it again this year...
Anyway, here are the two RYM links to the aforementioned lists:
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/ListyGuy ... reordered/
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/ListyGuy ... d__again_/

StevieFan13 · Post by **StevieFan13** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:54 pm

Only big difference between your list and mine is Purple Rain and Nation of Millions would be easy entries in the top 10 for me (though I'd also probably rank Trout Mask Replica last).

Nassim · Post by **Nassim** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:17 pm

I could not rank all of them as between 40 or 50 would be pretty much tied as "great but doesn't touch any of my heart strings".

Still, what I can do is rank my very favorite and the not so much ones :

top 10 :
1. Arcade Fire - Funeral
2. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
3. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
4. Portishead - Dummy
5. DJ Shadow - Endtroducing
6. The Beatles - Abbey Road
7. Radiohead - OK Computer
8. David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars
9. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
10. Radiohead - In Rainbows

bottom 10 :
91. Talking Heads - Remain in Light
92. Sly and the Family Stone - There's a Riot Goin' On
93. The Rolling Stones - Exile on Main Street
94. Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
95. John Lennon - Plastic Ono Band
96. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
97. The Jesus & Mary Chain - Psychocandy
98. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
99. David Bowie - Low
100. Derek and the Dominoes - Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs

StevieFan13 · Post by **StevieFan13** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:50 pm

From what I've heard, here's how I'd (tentatively) rank the top 100 (note that I basically like all of them, except maybe the bottom two):
100) Trout Mask Replica
99) Kid A
98) Daydream Nation
97) Closer
96) In Rainbows
95) Plastic Ono Band
94) Psychocandy
93) Loveless
92) Fun House
91) Low
90) Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs (fun fact: I named my dog after the title track)
89) Led Zeppelin II
88) Sticky Fingers
87) Forever Changes
86) Imagine
85) Rain Dogs
84) Unknown Pleasures
83) Harvest
82) Blue Lines
81) Grace
80) Led Zeppelin IV
79) Marquee Moon
78) Surfer Rosa
77) Bitches Brew
76) Astral Weeks
75) After the Gold Rush
74) Let It Bleed
73) The Doors
72) Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
71) Music from Big Pink
70) Raw Power
69) Illinois
68) A Love Supreme
67) Thriller
66) 3 Feet High and Rising
65) Bringing It All Back Home
64) Beggars Banquet
63) Otis Blue
62) Blue
61) Graceland
60) Elephant
59) Transformer
58) Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols
57) Innervisions
56) Who's Next
55) Murmur
54) Are You Experienced?
53) Back in Black
52) Live at the Apollo
51) There's a Riot Going On
50) Ramones
49) The Bends
48) Electric Ladyland
47) Rubber Soul
46) Sign O' the Times
45) Blonde on Blonde
44) Dummy
43) Screamadelica
42) The Band
41) Appetite for Destruction
40) What's Going On?
39) Hunky Dory
38) Is This It
37) The Joshua Tree
36) The Clash
35) This Year's Model
34) Kind of Blue
33) The Velvet Underground and Nico
32) OK Computer
31) Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
30) My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
29) Highway 61 Revisited
28) Songs in the Key of Life
27) The Stone Roses
26) Horses
25) Odelay
24) Endtroducing...
23) The White Album
22) Pet Sounds
21) Achtung Baby
20) Revolver
19) Exile on Main Street
18) Remain in Light
17) The Dark Side of the Moon
16) Rumors
15) Automatic for the People
14) To Pimp a Butterfly
13) Funeral
12) The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars
11) (What's the Story) Morning Glory?
10) Doolittle
9) Blood on the Tracks
8) Nevermind
7) The Queen is Dead
6) London Calling
5) It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
4) Tapestry
3) Born to Run
2) Abbey Road
1) Purple Rain

Bruno · Post by **Bruno** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:58 pm

StevieFan13 wrote: 57) Innervisions
28) Songs in the Key of Life

Why?

You are a Stevie fan! Hehe ...

StevieFan13 · Post by **StevieFan13** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:01 pm

Bruno wrote:
StevieFan13 wrote: 57) Innervisions
28) Songs in the Key of Life
Why?

You are a Stevie fan! Hehe ...

I KNEW someone was gonna bring that up. A few more listens and I'd probably bump Songs in the Key of Life up a few spots, and maybe Innervisions. (Thing is, my favorite Stevie album's Talking Book, because that's the one with "Superstition" and "I Believe (When I Fall in Love It Will Be Forever)").

StevieFan13 · Post by **StevieFan13** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:02 pm

In hindsight, I might bump Key of Life up to 21 or so, but again, I need to listen to it again.

babydoll · Post by **babydoll** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:40 pm

Why do I feel kinda bad that I would probably rank Funeral amongst the bottom ten after seeing it ranked so high in the two lists?

StevieFan13 · Post by **StevieFan13** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:59 pm

babydoll wrote:Why do I feel kinda bad that I would probably rank Funeral amongst the bottom ten after seeing it ranked so high in the two lists?

Different strokes for different folks, man. I'm not a huge Zeppelin fan myself.

Live in Phoenix · Post by **Live in Phoenix** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:28 pm

1) Nevermind
2) Closer
3) Blonde on Blonde
4) London Calling
5) Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band
6) Purple Rain
7) Thriller
8) Murmur
9) The Queen Is Dead
10) Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols

I'd be fine with these albums being on the other side of the top 100 gate.
91) Appetite for Destruction
92) Back in Black
93) Elephant
94) In Rainbows
95) Rain Dogs
96) Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
97) (What's the Story) Morning Glory?
98) Endtroducing...
99) Psychocandy
100) Screamadelica

(In place of, using the AM #101-150, Moondance, Physical Graffiti, Slanted and Enchanted, Led Zeppelin, Paranoid, Siamese Dream, Pearl Jam's Ten, Entertainment!, Songs of Leonard Cohen, Born in the U.S.A., for instance.)

Jirin · Post by **Jirin** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:47 pm

1) Tom Waits - Rain Dogs
2) Neil Young - After The Gold Rush
3) Led Zeppelin - IV
4) Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experienced?
5) The Beatles - Revolver
6) Prince - Purple Rain
7) The White Stripes - Elephant
8) Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
9) Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
10) Bob Dylan - Blonde On Blonde

91) Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
92) Paul Simon - Graceland
93) Carole King - Tapestry
94) DJ Shadow - Entroducing
95) Oasis - What's the Story? Morning Glory
96) Sly And The Family Stone - There's A Riot Goin On
97) Kanye West My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
98) U2 - Achtung, Baby
99) Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks - Here's The Sex Pistols
100) AC/DC - Back In Black

prosecutorgodot · Post by **prosecutorgodot** » Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:55 pm

There are 10 albums in the top 100 I haven't heard yet:
Psychocandy, Harvest, Surfer Rosa, Raw Power, Murmur
Screamadelica, The Band, This Year's Model, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, Odelay

So I can't do a full 100 countdown, but a top 25. My taste in the top 100 is pretty standard.
01) OK Computer
02) Songs in the Key of Life
03) Purple Rain
04) Revolver
05) Abbey Road
06) Tapestry
07) To Pimp a Butterfly
08) The Velvet Underground and Nico
09) Rubber Soul
10) Transformer

11) The Dark Side of the Moon
12) Back in Black
13) Kid A
14) Is This It
15) In Rainbows
16) Pet Sounds
17) Highway 61 Revisited
18) The Stone Roses
19) Innervisions
20) Horses

21) Grace
22) Thriller
23) My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
24) The Bends
25) Nevermind

Honorable mentions: Trout Mask Replica, Rain Dogs, Appetite for Destruction, Led Zeppelin IV, Low, Are You Experienced, Rumours

My least favorites include Loveless and Closer.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:18 am

1. The Beatles- Revolver
2. Radiohead- OK Computer
3. The Clash- London Calling
4. The Beach Boys- Pet Sounds
5. The Beatles- Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
6. The Beatles- The Beatles ("The White Album")
7. The Strokes- Is This Is
8. David Bowie- The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars
9. Bob Dylan- Highway 61 Revisited
10. Radiohead- Kid A

...

91. The Stooges- Raw Power
92. Miles Davis- Bitches Brew
93. Stevie Wonder- Songs in the Key of Life
94. Derek and the Dominoes- Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs
95. Jeff Buckley- Grace
96. De La Soul- 3 Feet High and Rising
97. James Brown- Live at the Apollo 1963
98. The Band- Music from Big Pink
99. Otis Redding- Otis Blue
100. Captain Beefheart- Trout Mask Replica

letmeintomyzone · Post by **letmeintomyzone** » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:26 am

Why is TMR so hated?

PlasticRam · Post by **PlasticRam** » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:31 am

letmeintomyzone wrote:Why is TMR so hated?

It's definitely the kind of album you either love or hate.

StevieFan13 · Post by **StevieFan13** » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:48 am

PlasticRam wrote:
letmeintomyzone wrote:Why is TMR so hated?
It's definitely the kind of album you either love or hate.

Too avant-garde for my tastes (same reason I prefer OK Computer and The Bends to Kid A), but I see why others love it so much.

Bang Jan · Post by **Bang Jan** » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:28 pm

bonnielaurel · Post by **bonnielaurel** » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:53 pm

1. Thriller
2. Songs in the Key of Life
3. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
4. Graceland
5. Tapestry
6. Let It Bleed
7. Bringing It All Back Home
8. What's Going On?
9. The Joshua Tree
10. Born to Run
11. Kind of Blue
12. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars
13. Rubber Soul
14. Nevermind
15. OK Computer
16. The Dark Side of the Moon
17. Blonde on Blonde
18. Purple Rain
19. Rumours
20. Automatic for the People
21. The Doors
22. Led Zeppelin IV
23. Highway 61 Revisited
24. Are You Experienced?
25. Hunky Dory
26. Dummy
27. Innervisions
28. Astral Weeks
29. Harvest
30. Transformer
31. Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols
32. Achtung Baby
33. Led Zeppelin II
34. Pet Sounds
35. Blue
36. Who's Next
37. Sticky Fingers
38. (What's the Story) Morning Glory?
39. Abbey Road
40. Sign O' the Times
41. Grace
42. Appetite for Destruction
43. Illinois
44. The Beatles
45. The Velvet Underground and Nico
46. Revolver
47. This Year's Model
48. Blood on the Tracks
49. London Calling
50. Beggars Banquet
51. Bitches Brew
52. Electric Ladyland
53. There's a Riot Going On
54. Music from Big Pink
55. A Love Supreme
56. Kid A
57. Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs
58. Remain in Light
59. Blue Lines
60. Low
61. Imagine
62. Trout Mask Replica
63. Exile on Main Street
64. Live at the Apollo
65. Otis Blue
66. Ramones
67. It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
68. The Band
69. 3 Feet High and Rising
70. Psychocandy
71. Rain Dogs
72. Plastic Ono Band
73. Murmur
74. Back in Black
75. Odelay
76. Funeral
77. The Bends
78. Loveless
79. The Clash
80. Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
81. Doolittle
82. After the Gold Rush
83. In Rainbows
84. Forever Changes
85. Marquee Moon
86. Elephant
87. The Stone Roses
88. Screamadelica
89. Is This It
90. Daydream Nation
91. To Pimp a Butterfly
92. Surfer Rosa
93. Endtroducing...
94. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
95. Horses
96. Raw Power
97. Fun House
98. Closer
99. Queen is Dead
100. Unknown Pleasures

Sunwoo1213 · Post by **Sunwoo1213** » Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:15 pm

i'll Just post top tens..

1. VU & Nico
2. Kid A
3. Odelay
4. Endtroducing
5. Born To Run
6. Moon Safari
7. Carrie & Lowell
8. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
9. Funeral
10. Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space

Live in Phoenix · Post by **Live in Phoenix** » Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:43 pm

Additionally, our last big-ass album poll tells the story of what the forum as a whole thinks of the AM 100.

Live in Phoenix · Post by **Live in Phoenix** » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:10 pm

From The 2014 All-Time Albums Poll, there were twenty-four AM 100 albums that didn’t make the forum's top 100. AC/DC had the worst forum placing, though it's still not that bad.

77. DJ Shadow - Endtroducing... (#105)
78. Otis Redding - Otis Blue (#106)
79. Pixies - Surfer Rosa (#108)
80. The Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols (#118)
81. Massive Attack - Blue Lines (#119)
82. Neil Young - Harvest (#124)
83. Ramones - Ramones (#127)
84. The Clash - The Clash (#142)
85. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique (#150)
86. De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising (#158)
87. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin II (#161)
88. The Band - The Band (#163)
89. Guns n' Roses - Appetite for Destruction (#164)
90. Jesus and the Mary Chain - Psychocandy (#177)

91. John Lennon - Imagine (#205)
92. Carole King - Tapestry (#209)
93. Primal Scream - Screamadelica (#232)
94. Derek and the Dominos - Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs (#233)
95. Iggy and the Stooges - Raw Power (#238)
96. The Band - Music from Big Pink (#249)
97. James Brown - Live at the Apollo (#261)
98. Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica (#262)
99. Miles Davis - Bitches Brew (#264)
100. AC/DC - Back in Black (#385)

notbrianeno · Post by **notbrianeno** » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:21 pm

jamieW · Post by **jamieW** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:45 am

StevieFan13 · Post by **StevieFan13** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:49 am

jamieW wrote:Love:
1 | A Love Supreme 10
2 | Kind of Blue 10
3 | The Dark Side of the Moon 10
4 | Forever Changes 9.55
5 | Rumours 9.45
6 | Innervisions 9.33
7 | Funeral 9.3
8 | The Velvet Underground & Nico 9.27
9 | OK Computer 9.25
10 | Thriller 9.22
11 | Purple Rain 9.22
12 | What's Going On 9.11
13 | Pet Sounds 9.08
14 | Revolver 9
15 | My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy 9
16 | Abbey Road 8.93
17 | Low 8.91
18 | The Doors 8.82
19 | Unknown Pleasures 8.8
20 | Harvest 8.7
21 | To Pimp a Butterfly 8.69
22 | Led Zeppelin IV 8.5
23 | Kid A 8.5
24 | Closer 8.44
25 | Illinois 8.38
26 | Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band 8.33
27 | Doolittle 8.3
28 | It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back 8.23
29 | Endtroducing.... 8.2
30 | Songs in the Key of Life 8.15
31 | Marquee Moon 8
32 | Bitches Brew 8
33 | In Rainbows 8

Like a lot:
34 | Dummy 7.91
35 | Is This It 7.91
36 | Born to Run 7.88
37 | Rain Dogs 7.87
38 | Bringing It All Back Home 7.73
39 | Are You Experienced 7.68
40 | Daydream Nation 7.67
41 | The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars 7.64
42 | Blonde on Blonde 7.64
43 | The Queen Is Dead 7.6
44 | Highway 61 Revisited 7.56
45 | Grace 7.5
46 | The Beatles (White Album) 7.43
47 | Nevermind 7.42
48 | Imagine 7.3
49 | There's a Riot Goin' On 7.27
50 | Electric Ladyland 7.25
51 | Elephant 7.21
52 | Back in Black 7.2
53 | The Bends 7.17
54 | London Calling 7.18
55 | Remain in Light 7.13
56 | Ramones 7

Like:
57 | Blue Lines 6.94
58 | Led Zeppelin II 6.94
59 | Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs 6.93
60 | Raw Power 6.88
61 | Automatic for the People 6.83
62 | The Stone Roses 6.83
63 | Sticky Fingers 6.8
64 | Live at the Apollo 6.79
65 | Loveless 6.77
66 | Achtung Baby 6.75
67 | Astral Weeks 6.75
68 | Rubber Soul 6.71
69 | Surfer Rosa 6.65
70 | Fun House 6.64
71 | Hunky Dory 6.59
72 | Music from Big Pink 6.59
73 | Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols 6.58
74 | Appetite for Destruction 6.58
75 | Tapestry 6.5
76 | Who's Next 6.5
77 | Let It Bleed 6.5
78 | Blood on the Tracks 6.5
79 | The Band 6.42
80 | Sign o' the Times 6.33
81 | (What's the Story) Morning Glory? 6.32
82 | Screamadelica 6.32
83 | Blue 6.3
84 | Trout Mask Replica 6.29
85 | Exile on Main St. 6.27
86 | Otis Blue: Otis Redding Sings Soul 6.14
87 | The Joshua Tree 6.14
88 | 3 Feet High and Rising 6.1
89 | Psychocandy 6

OK:
90 | Yankee Hotel Foxtrot 5.91
91 | Murmur 5.83
92 | After the Gold Rush 5.73
93 | Transformer 5.73
94 | Odelay 5.69
95 | Graceland 5.63

Never connected with me:
96 | Beggars Banquet 5.4
97 | The Clash 5.38
98 | This Year's Model 5.38
99 | Horses 4.75
100 | John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band 3.82

I agree that the first Clash album didn't connect with me as much as London Calling. And I admire someone with the guts to only call Wilco "OK" on a music forum (my dad would appreciate that).

Henry · Post by **Henry** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:40 am

In my top 100 All-Time

1. Abbey Road
2. Who's Next
3. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
4. Dark Side of the Moon
5. Revolver
6. Tapestry
7. Innervisions
8. Rubber Soul
9. Blood on the Tracks
10. Thriller
11. Born to Run
12. Are you Experienced
13. White Album
14. Led Zeppelin IV
15. Songs in the Key of Life
16. The Band
17. Joshua Tree
18. After the Gold Rush
19. Layla & other assorted love songs
20. Pet Sounds
21. What's Going On
22. Rumours
23. What's the Story Morning Glory?
24. Sticky Fingers
25. Led Zeppelin II
26. Let It Bleed
27. Beggars Banquet
28. Imagine
29. This Year's Model
30. Blue
31. Appetite for Destruction
32. Highway 61 Revisited
33. Exile on Main Street

In My Top 200 All Time
34. Electric Ladyland
35. Doors
36. Blonde on Blonde
37. Harvest
38. Bringing it all back home
39. Illinoise
40. Achtung Baby
41. Purple Rain
42. Grace
43. London Calling
44. OK Computer
45. Music From Big Pink
46. Funeral
47. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars
48. Kind of Blue

In My Top 500 All Time
49. Murmur
50. Odelay
51. Remain in Light
52. The Queen Is Dead
53. Nevermind
54. A Love Supreme
55. Graceland
56. Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
57. Elephant
58. Transformer

In My Top 1000 All Time
59. The Bends
60. Bitches Brew
61. Back in Black
62. In Rainbows
63. Channel Orange
64. Plastic Ono Band
65. Low
66. Sign 'o' the Times
67. Marquee Moon
68. Blue Lines
69. Is This It
70. Kid A
71. Astral Weeks
72. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
73. Automatic for the People
74. Ramones
75. Doolittle
76. Velvet Underground & Nico
77. The Clash
78. Stone Roses
79. There's a Riot Going on
80. Never Mind the Bollocks - Here's the Sex Pistols
81. Daydream Nation
82. Loveless
83. Surfer Rosa
84. Otis Blue
85. Hunky Dory
86. 'Live' at the Apollo
87. Forever Changes
88. Closer
89. Unknown Pleasures
90. Dummy

Not In My Top 1000
91. Raw Power
92. Fun House
93. Screamadelica
94. Horses
95. 3 Feet High and Rising
96. Endtroducing . . .
97. Psychocandy
98. It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
99. Trout Mask Replica
100. Rain Dogs

StevieFan13 · Post by **StevieFan13** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:16 pm

I don't believe Trans-Europe Express is in the top 100.

StevieFan13 · Post by **StevieFan13** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:17 pm

And man, I'm surprised by the amount of people who don't care for Nation of Millions.

bootsy · Post by **bootsy** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:42 am

StevieFan13 wrote:And man, I'm surprised by the amount of people who don't care for Nation of Millions.

I'm not especially on this board. There aren't many hip hop heads like us on here. We just gotta do what we can to Fight The Power lol.

StevieFan13 · Post by **StevieFan13** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:50 am

bootsy wrote:
StevieFan13 wrote:And man, I'm surprised by the amount of people who don't care for Nation of Millions.
I'm not especially on this board. There aren't many hip hop heads like us on here. We just gotta do what we can to Fight The Power lol.

Agreed. Nation of Millions is in my top 10.

bootsy · Post by **bootsy** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:09 am

StevieFan13 wrote:
bootsy wrote:
StevieFan13 wrote:And man, I'm surprised by the amount of people who don't care for Nation of Millions.
I'm not especially on this board. There aren't many hip hop heads like us on here. We just gotta do what we can to Fight The Power lol.
Agreed. Nation of Millions is in my top 10.

To be honest it's probably in my top 5. Although sometimes and I might get killed for admitting this but I sometimes like Fear Of A Black Planet over it. Depends on the mood I'm in. It's like I prefer Niggaz4Life over Straight Outta Compton. I feel like even though no Cube, the production by Dr. Dre is on another level that Straight Outta Compton can't match. I'm a little surprised N4L isn't on the AM 3000. Maybe there should be a 'Controversial Opinions About Music' thread on AMF.

StevieFan13 · Post by **StevieFan13** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:21 am

bootsy wrote:
StevieFan13 wrote:
bootsy wrote: I'm not especially on this board. There aren't many hip hop heads like us on here. We just gotta do what we can to Fight The Power lol.
Agreed. Nation of Millions is in my top 10.
To be honest it's probably in my top 5. Although sometimes and I might get killed for admitting this but I sometimes like Fear Of A Black Planet over it. Depends on the mood I'm in. It's like I prefer Niggaz4Life over Straight Outta Compton. I feel like even though no Cube, the production by Dr. Dre is on another level that Straight Outta Compton can't match. I'm a little surprised N4L isn't on the AM 3000. Maybe there should be a 'Controversial Opinions About Music' thread on AMF.

Well, Fear of a Black Planet has "Fight the Power," "911 is a Joke," and "Burn Hollywood Burn" (it also has that unfortunate line in "Welcome to the Terrordome," but I'll try to ignore that), and the National Recording Registry picked it over Nation of Millions for preservation, so you might be onto something. I haven't heard the other NWA album, so I can't judge. And the "songs everyone hates that you like" and "Someone explain Kid A to me" threads are pretty quickly becoming controversial music opinion zones (funny how I always seem to be the one to instigate it).

bootsy · Post by **bootsy** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:40 am

StevieFan13 wrote:
bootsy wrote:
StevieFan13 wrote: Agreed. Nation of Millions is in my top 10.
To be honest it's probably in my top 5. Although sometimes and I might get killed for admitting this but I sometimes like Fear Of A Black Planet over it. Depends on the mood I'm in. It's like I prefer Niggaz4Life over Straight Outta Compton. I feel like even though no Cube, the production by Dr. Dre is on another level that Straight Outta Compton can't match. I'm a little surprised N4L isn't on the AM 3000. Maybe there should be a 'Controversial Opinions About Music' thread on AMF.
Well, Fear of a Black Planet has "Fight the Power," "911 is a Joke," and "Burn Hollywood Burn" (it also has that unfortunate line in "Welcome to the Terrordome," but I'll try to ignore that), and the National Recording Registry picked it over Nation of Millions for preservation, so you might be onto something. I haven't heard the other NWA album, so I can't judge. And the "songs everyone hates that you like" and "Someone explain Kid A to me" threads are pretty quickly becoming controversial music opinion zones (funny how I always seem to be the one to instigate it).

That's ok though. If we all agreed it would be a boring place. Anyway "Welcome To The Terrordome" is my favorite Public Enemy song. I remember my dad who told me as a little kid in the last 80s that "rap" wouldn't last, bought the single on tape and it had the instrumental on it and he played it about 7 times in a row and I immediately fell in love with the song. It's not a catchy song or anything but that beat is just so unconscious. It's like that beat has no rules to it. And yes I know about the line but as you said I just ignore it.

StevieFan13 · Post by **StevieFan13** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:42 am

bootsy wrote:
StevieFan13 wrote:
bootsy wrote: To be honest it's probably in my top 5. Although sometimes and I might get killed for admitting this but I sometimes like Fear Of A Black Planet over it. Depends on the mood I'm in. It's like I prefer Niggaz4Life over Straight Outta Compton. I feel like even though no Cube, the production by Dr. Dre is on another level that Straight Outta Compton can't match. I'm a little surprised N4L isn't on the AM 3000. Maybe there should be a 'Controversial Opinions About Music' thread on AMF.
Well, Fear of a Black Planet has "Fight the Power," "911 is a Joke," and "Burn Hollywood Burn" (it also has that unfortunate line in "Welcome to the Terrordome," but I'll try to ignore that), and the National Recording Registry picked it over Nation of Millions for preservation, so you might be onto something. I haven't heard the other NWA album, so I can't judge. And the "songs everyone hates that you like" and "Someone explain Kid A to me" threads are pretty quickly becoming controversial music opinion zones (funny how I always seem to be the one to instigate it).
That's ok though. If we all agreed it would be a boring place. Anyway "Welcome To The Terrordome" is my favorite Public Enemy song. I remember my dad who told me as a little kid in the last 80s that "rap" wouldn't last, bought the single on tape and it had the instrumental on it and he played it about 7 times in a row and I immediately fell in love with the song. It's not a catchy song or anything but that beat is just so unconscious. It's like that beat has no rules to it. And yes I know about the line but as you said I just ignore it.

Maybe it's worth a re-listen. "Fight the Power" is the song I, at the very least, admire the most, but "Don't Believe the Hype" is also pretty amazing.

bootsy · Post by **bootsy** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:50 am

StevieFan13 wrote:
bootsy wrote:
StevieFan13 wrote: Well, Fear of a Black Planet has "Fight the Power," "911 is a Joke," and "Burn Hollywood Burn" (it also has that unfortunate line in "Welcome to the Terrordome," but I'll try to ignore that), and the National Recording Registry picked it over Nation of Millions for preservation, so you might be onto something. I haven't heard the other NWA album, so I can't judge. And the "songs everyone hates that you like" and "Someone explain Kid A to me" threads are pretty quickly becoming controversial music opinion zones (funny how I always seem to be the one to instigate it).
That's ok though. If we all agreed it would be a boring place. Anyway "Welcome To The Terrordome" is my favorite Public Enemy song. I remember my dad who told me as a little kid in the last 80s that "rap" wouldn't last, bought the single on tape and it had the instrumental on it and he played it about 7 times in a row and I immediately fell in love with the song. It's not a catchy song or anything but that beat is just so unconscious. It's like that beat has no rules to it. And yes I know about the line but as you said I just ignore it.
Maybe it's worth a re-listen. "Fight the Power" is the song I, at the very least, admire the most, but "Don't Believe the Hype" is also pretty amazing.

Top 5 PE songs:
1. Welcome To The Terrordome
2. Rebel Without A Pause
3. Shut 'Em Down
4. Fight The Power
5. Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos

StevieFan13 · Post by **StevieFan13** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:54 am

bootsy wrote:
StevieFan13 wrote:
bootsy wrote: That's ok though. If we all agreed it would be a boring place. Anyway "Welcome To The Terrordome" is my favorite Public Enemy song. I remember my dad who told me as a little kid in the last 80s that "rap" wouldn't last, bought the single on tape and it had the instrumental on it and he played it about 7 times in a row and I immediately fell in love with the song. It's not a catchy song or anything but that beat is just so unconscious. It's like that beat has no rules to it. And yes I know about the line but as you said I just ignore it.
Maybe it's worth a re-listen. "Fight the Power" is the song I, at the very least, admire the most, but "Don't Believe the Hype" is also pretty amazing.
Top 5 PE songs:
1. Welcome To The Terrordome
2. Rebel Without A Pause
3. Shut 'Em Down
4. Fight The Power
5. Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos

Mine would be:
1. Fight the Power
2. Don't Believe the Hype
3. Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos
4. Caught, Can I Get a Witness?
5. 911 is a Joke

bootsy · Post by **bootsy** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:57 am

StevieFan13 wrote:
bootsy wrote:
StevieFan13 wrote: Maybe it's worth a re-listen. "Fight the Power" is the song I, at the very least, admire the most, but "Don't Believe the Hype" is also pretty amazing.
Top 5 PE songs:
1. Welcome To The Terrordome
2. Rebel Without A Pause
3. Shut 'Em Down
4. Fight The Power
5. Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos
Mine would be:
1. Fight the Power
2. Don't Believe the Hype
3. Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos
4. Caught, Can I Get a Witness?
5. 911 is a Joke

911 and Hype would be in my top 10. Caught probably top 20.

StevieFan13 · Post by **StevieFan13** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:01 am

bootsy wrote:
StevieFan13 wrote:
bootsy wrote: Top 5 PE songs:
1. Welcome To The Terrordome
2. Rebel Without A Pause
3. Shut 'Em Down
4. Fight The Power
5. Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos
Mine would be:
1. Fight the Power
2. Don't Believe the Hype
3. Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos
4. Caught, Can I Get a Witness?
5. 911 is a Joke
911 and Hype would be in my top 10. Caught probably top 20.

Most of my PE knowledge is from Nation of Millions and Black Planet - anything else of note from before or after? (BTW, in general, I enjoy old school rap more than anything, but there are a lot of rappers nowadays I also really like. Though, if we're talking controversial opinions, I can't stand Lil Wayne, Future, or Lil Yachty.)

bootsy · Post by **bootsy** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:21 am

StevieFan13 wrote:
bootsy wrote:
StevieFan13 wrote: Mine would be:
1. Fight the Power
2. Don't Believe the Hype
3. Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos
4. Caught, Can I Get a Witness?
5. 911 is a Joke
911 and Hype would be in my top 10. Caught probably top 20.
Most of my PE knowledge is from Nation of Millions and Black Planet - anything else of note from before or after? (BTW, in general, I enjoy old school rap more than anything, but there are a lot of rappers nowadays I also really like. Though, if we're talking controversial opinions, I can't stand Lil Wayne, Future, or Lil Yachty.)

LOL I'm ok with Wayne and Future. Yachty is a hell no. I'm old school like you. I grew up in the 80s and 90s and that era just will never be forgotten or duplicated in hip hop. I will say that the music has evolved and gone very commercial which on one hand makes me happy for people like my parents who said it wouldn't last but on the other I feel like it's gotten so commercial that some people feel like anyone can do it and that isn't the case. I've tried to rap and suck at it.

StevieFan13 · Post by **StevieFan13** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:33 am

bootsy wrote:
StevieFan13 wrote:
bootsy wrote: 911 and Hype would be in my top 10. Caught probably top 20.
Most of my PE knowledge is from Nation of Millions and Black Planet - anything else of note from before or after? (BTW, in general, I enjoy old school rap more than anything, but there are a lot of rappers nowadays I also really like. Though, if we're talking controversial opinions, I can't stand Lil Wayne, Future, or Lil Yachty.)
LOL I'm ok with Wayne and Future. Yachty is a hell no. I'm old school like you. I grew up in the 80s and 90s and that era just will never be forgotten or duplicated in hip hop. I will say that the music has evolved and gone very commercial which on one hand makes me happy for people like my parents who said it wouldn't last but on the other I feel like it's gotten so commercial that some people feel like anyone can do it and that isn't the case. I've tried to rap and suck at it.

I help run a hip-hop listening club at school (my math teacher was always reciting little bits of "South Bronx" and that got us to talking), and since he also grew up in the '80s, it's pretty much all golden age stuff. I can't rap worth beans, but I'm better than anyone else at school (which isn't saying much, considering they freestyle worse than Yachty). While there are some rappers who can get away with less-impressive flows if they're charismatic enough (like Biz Markie), too many just think they're charismatic enough from the get-go and that forgives them any crap lyrics. It happens to bad rappers like Rick Ross but also genuinely good ones like Jay Z or Nicki Minaj.

bootsy · Post by **bootsy** » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:16 am

StevieFan13 wrote:
bootsy wrote:
StevieFan13 wrote: Most of my PE knowledge is from Nation of Millions and Black Planet - anything else of note from before or after? (BTW, in general, I enjoy old school rap more than anything, but there are a lot of rappers nowadays I also really like. Though, if we're talking controversial opinions, I can't stand Lil Wayne, Future, or Lil Yachty.)
LOL I'm ok with Wayne and Future. Yachty is a hell no. I'm old school like you. I grew up in the 80s and 90s and that era just will never be forgotten or duplicated in hip hop. I will say that the music has evolved and gone very commercial which on one hand makes me happy for people like my parents who said it wouldn't last but on the other I feel like it's gotten so commercial that some people feel like anyone can do it and that isn't the case. I've tried to rap and suck at it.
I help run a hip-hop listening club at school (my math teacher was always reciting little bits of "South Bronx" and that got us to talking), and since he also grew up in the '80s, it's pretty much all golden age stuff. I can't rap worth beans, but I'm better than anyone else at school (which isn't saying much, considering they freestyle worse than Yachty). While there are some rappers who can get away with less-impressive flows if they're charismatic enough (like Biz Markie), too many just think they're charismatic enough from the get-go and that forgives them any crap lyrics. It happens to bad rappers like Rick Ross but also genuinely good ones like Jay Z or Nicki Minaj.

That's a pretty spot on analysis I agree with on Biz Markie, you can also put Ol' Dirty Bastard in that category too. I agree with you on Jay-Z too. I think he's one of the best (meaning top 10 of all time but in the back half of the top 10) but I get so tired of people always saying he's the best ever. He's probably the most popular ever but there is a lack of originality for me to put him above Rakim, Nas, KRS-One or even Biggie for that matter. I feel like to be the best ever you have to distinguish yourself from everyone else and he just doesn't do that for me.