When will the 2017 update come?

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Here's the situation. I worked really hard and made some major progress two weekends ago. But after that (because of that) I've had a terrible headache and there's still work to be done, so I don't want to give a new estimate yet.

My body screams that I should have less screen time on my spare time, but even if I'm saying that there's still work to be done, it's nothing compared to the time I have invested in this update (the 10,000 songs list and the new site design) so far. So I'm definitely going to complete this work, I just can't say when (yet) and I completely understand that you are eager for the update but pushing me doesn't help.
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What's important is that you do what's best for your body, Henrik. We all appreciate the work you do tremendously, and it's definitely good news to hear that the update is looking good. But you rest as much as you need.
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I totally agree with StevieFan13. Until the update is done, the unofficial 2016 lists, the AM EOY lists, and the Mega Critic lists are enough to give me my music fix. Take care of yourself, Henrik and thank you for all the hard work you've already put into this site.
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I'm happy to wait another year if needed, as long as Henrik doesn't overdo it. Stay healthy Henrik :-)
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Henrik wrote:Here's the situation. I worked really hard and made some major progress two weekends ago. But after that (because of that) I've had a terrible headache and there's still work to be done, so I don't want to give a new estimate yet.

My body screams that I should have less screen time on my spare time, but even if I'm saying that there's still work to be done, it's nothing compared to the time I have invested in this update (the 10,000 songs list and the new site design) so far. So I'm definitely going to complete this work, I just can't say when (yet) and I completely understand that you are eager for the update but pushing me doesn't help.
Henrik, I realize this is your site and a labor of love, but have you considered delegating work to some of the more trusted members of the board? No one wants you to run yourself down for the update, and I'm sure some of the users would be willing to help.
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Jonathon wrote:
Henrik wrote:Here's the situation. I worked really hard and made some major progress two weekends ago. But after that (because of that) I've had a terrible headache and there's still work to be done, so I don't want to give a new estimate yet.

My body screams that I should have less screen time on my spare time, but even if I'm saying that there's still work to be done, it's nothing compared to the time I have invested in this update (the 10,000 songs list and the new site design) so far. So I'm definitely going to complete this work, I just can't say when (yet) and I completely understand that you are eager for the update but pushing me doesn't help.
Henrik, I realize this is your site and a labor of love, but have you considered delegating work to some of the more trusted members of the board? No one wants you to run yourself down for the update, and I'm sure some of the users would be willing to help.
I am getting a lot of help already, but there's a lot of work that I find difficult to delegate.

Right now I'm asking for help here (make sure you read the posts that follow as well).
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Sorry if its rude to carry on asking, but is there are we looking any further to a new estimate on when the update will come?
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It feels possible to make the update happen before the end of October. But this is not a promise.
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Henrik wrote:It feels possible to make the update happen before the end of October. But this is not a promise.
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Any idea if it is still possible the update will happen before the end of October?
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jbirt92 wrote:Any idea if it is still possible the update will happen before the end of October?
Can we PLEASE have a moratorium on these inquiries? Henrik's last post on the matter seemed clear enough, and it is only October 10, people. I realize that - as a very wise and recently departed artist once said - the waiting is the hardest part, but let's just try to last the rest of the month, shall we?
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jbirt92 wrote:Any idea if it is still possible the update will happen before the end of October?
Can we PLEASE have a moratorium on these inquiries? Henrik's last post on the matter seemed clear enough, and it is only October 10, people. I realize that - as a very wise and recently departed artist once said - the waiting is the hardest part, but let's just try to last the rest of the month, shall we?
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Would you constantly keep asking Kendrick Lamar when his album is out? NO!

Let Henrik do his work
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mowino wrote:Would you constantly keep asking Kendrick Lamar when his album is out? NO!

Let Henrik do his work
I agree about Henrik, but in case of Lamar it's about time he got off his lazy ass and release a new album already! We only had one this year so far :(
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Sorry if I upset everyone I'm just new here and wasn't sure how it all worked.
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jbirt92 wrote:Sorry if I upset everyone I'm just new here and wasn't sure how it all worked.
Actually, Henrik's health isn't optimal and the update involves a huge amount of work. Therefore, patience is the wisest course of action :)
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Amen. The update will come when it comes. We all appreciate- as we should- the amount of work and dedication Henrik (and others) put into the site.
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I am actually much less optimistic about October now. I have been travelling in my job and not had much time at all to work on the update since I said the end of October was possible. I have also booked a family holiday from October 29.

On top of this I discovered today that my statistical program suddenly doesn't read data from Excel the way it used to do. I don't know if it's because of a Windows Update, a changed setting in the statistical program, or whatever... :(
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Henrik wrote:I am actually much less optimistic about October now. I have been travelling in my job and not had much time at all to work on the update since I said the end of October was possible. I have also booked a family holiday from October 29.

On top of this I discovered today that my statistical program suddenly doesn't read data from Excel the way it used to do. I don't know if it's because of a Windows Update, a changed setting in the statistical program, or whatever... :(
Don't worry, my friend. The statistical program is a known one? Maybe I could find something about it
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I have a really old version of a wellknown program (updates are really expensive). I'm working on a workaround.
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Henrik wrote:I have a really old version of a wellknown program (updates are really expensive). I'm working on a workaround.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... l_packages
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panam wrote:
Henrik wrote:I have a really old version of a wellknown program (updates are really expensive). I'm working on a workaround.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... l_packages
Thanks panam, but I'm not looking into other programs. It would take ages to migrate all the code I have written over the years into another program. You wouldn't believe all the "adjustments" I have built in - it's as far from a straightforward sum of points you can get.

With workaround I meant another way to read the Excel data. It's possible.
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Henrik,

Just curious, would it be easier to just push out another unofficial update via spreadsheets? Would give some time to perfect a big site update overhaul and maybe pacify some of the more anxious people :) I'm not stressing it either way, just wondering what's easiest for you.
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ArcadeFire wrote:Henrik,

Just curious, would it be easier to just push out another unofficial update via spreadsheets? Would give some time to perfect a big site update overhaul and maybe pacify some of the more anxious people :) I'm not stressing it either way, just wondering what's easiest for you.
Even if it doesn't happen during October, the update isn't that far away, so that doesn't make sense now.
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Henrik, how much of a deviation is the next update from the 2016 unofficial update? Sometimes updates are drastically different, sometimes they've been slight modifications. Obviously the song list is changing up, but how much are album rankings and artist rankings changing up as a whole?
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Jonathon, here's an answer I gave kargetina earlier in this thread.
Henrik wrote:The update will basically be about songs. If an update of the albums list is what you're waiting for, then I'm afraid I haven't got that much news for you. The only lists I have added since the unofficial update are the EOY 2016 lists and Pitchfork's '60s list. However, I have changed the algorithm a bit, so there are still some changes.
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I made a lot of progress again this weekend and for a while there seemed to be a slim chance to make the update before I go on a weeklong holiday to Turkey on Sunday. But then I saw that there are a couple of pages in the report errors topic that I have missed to handle :-| which definitely makes an update this week impossible, as there's some other things left to do as well and I won't have much time to do any work during the evenings.

On the other hand, I'm pretty confident that I will make the update around a week after I get back from Turkey (that's approximately Nov. 12th). I had a great time this weekend, seeing the new website taking shape. However, as the error corrections will most likely affect the ranking, I still don't have a final ranking.
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Henrik wrote:I made a lot of progress again this weekend and for a while there seemed to be a slim chance to make the update before I go on a weeklong holiday to Turkey on Sunday. But then I saw that there are a couple of pages in the report errors topic that I have missed to handle :-| which definitely makes an update this week impossible, as there's some other things left to do as well and I won't have much time to do any work during the evenings.

On the other hand, I'm pretty confident that I will make the update around a week after I get back from Turkey (that's approximately Nov. 12th). I had a great time this weekend, seeing the new website taking shape. However, as the error corrections will most likely affect the ranking, I still don't have a final ranking.
Great news! Thanks for all your hard work, and enjoy your holiday.
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veganvalentine wrote:
Henrik wrote:I made a lot of progress again this weekend and for a while there seemed to be a slim chance to make the update before I go on a weeklong holiday to Turkey on Sunday. But then I saw that there are a couple of pages in the report errors topic that I have missed to handle :-| which definitely makes an update this week impossible, as there's some other things left to do as well and I won't have much time to do any work during the evenings.

On the other hand, I'm pretty confident that I will make the update around a week after I get back from Turkey (that's approximately Nov. 12th). I had a great time this weekend, seeing the new website taking shape. However, as the error corrections will most likely affect the ranking, I still don't have a final ranking.
Great news! Thanks for all your hard work, and enjoy your holiday.
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Considering how close we are to the update, a week or two is not very important.

Have a great holiday, we'll still be here when you come back. :greetings-waveyellow: :mrgreen: :music-rockon:
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Henrik wrote:I made a lot of progress again this weekend and for a while there seemed to be a slim chance to make the update before I go on a weeklong holiday to Turkey on Sunday. But then I saw that there are a couple of pages in the report errors topic that I have missed to handle :-| which definitely makes an update this week impossible, as there's some other things left to do as well and I won't have much time to do any work during the evenings.

On the other hand, I'm pretty confident that I will make the update around a week after I get back from Turkey (that's approximately Nov. 12th). I had a great time this weekend, seeing the new website taking shape. However, as the error corrections will most likely affect the ranking, I still don't have a final ranking.
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I prefer the update in december, better timing.
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filmman wrote:I prefer the update in december, better timing.
Considering that it's been over two years since the last full update, I think most of us would prefer the update as soon as Henrik thinks it's ready. Also, I hope you realize that this update will not include anything from 2017.
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What years will be covered in this update? Will it go all the way through 2016?
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acr0320 wrote:What years will be covered in this update? Will it go all the way through 2016?
Yep! No 2017 stuff.
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Error and rating changes threads are closed; am I allowed to start getting excited now?
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BleuPanda wrote:Error and rating changes threads are closed; am I allowed to start getting excited now?
Way ahead of you. Who’s providing champagne?
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My palms are sweaty
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Henrik's gonna update AM already
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You can let the F5 button rest a few days. This is still effective...
Henrik wrote:On the other hand, I'm pretty confident that I will make the update around a week after I get back from Turkey (that's approximately Nov. 12th).
If it will be before the 12th, it won't be long.
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"Il n'est pas de plaisir plus doux que de faire des heureux."
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I wish you a lot of pleasure :-)
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Henrik wrote:You can let the F5 button rest a few days. This is still effective...
Henrik wrote:On the other hand, I'm pretty confident that I will make the update around a week after I get back from Turkey (that's approximately Nov. 12th).
If it will be before the 12th, it won't be long.
Oh, I know; but that's a really short amount of time in the grand scheme of things!
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Nick wrote:My palms are sweaty
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Henrik's gonna update AM already
Mom's spaghetti
How can we move a post to some kind of Hall of Fame or Best Of thread ?
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Nassim wrote:
Nick wrote:My palms are sweaty
Knees weak
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Henrik's gonna update AM already
Mom's spaghetti
How can we move a post to some kind of Hall of Fame or Best Of thread ?
Another forum I go to has a yearbook for the funniest or smartest comments every year. I wish we had one of those.
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StevieFan13 wrote:
Nassim wrote:
Nick wrote:My palms are sweaty
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Henrik's gonna update AM already
Mom's spaghetti
How can we move a post to some kind of Hall of Fame or Best Of thread ?
Another forum I go to has a yearbook for the funniest or smartest comments every year. I wish we had one of those.
I figure it's never too late to start!
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Hopefully Kanye West - 'My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy' remains #1 this decade.

Kendrick will probably end up w/ the #1 artist of the 2010s once DAMN is registered.
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We’re so close!!!!
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Oh my GoD!!! SO CLOSE!!!
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Sunday? :o :music-guitarred:
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Bruno wrote:Sunday? :o :music-guitarred:
I'm hoping for Saturday, but yeah, it very well could be Sunday.

The perks of being 6 hours behind Henrik mean that I could conceivably wake up at an AM update.
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