Should The Carters' music be listed under Beyoncé and Jay-Z as well?

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Should The Carters' music be listed under Beyoncé and Jay-Z as well?

Post by Henrik » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:01 am

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Jimoincolor wrote:Interestingly, Pitchfork credits Beyoncé & Jay-Z as the artists behind the EIL project, and not The Carters. I know it is the same thing (this is their last name, not a group name or something), but I have a feeling that Acc. Music will separate the credits and consider it a different group, which will be very weird.
I think The Carters should have its own entry on AM. And I don't think I have ever given credit to separate members in addition to the main entry. But The Carters have, so far, been presented as a collaboration rather than a band, so maybe it would be correct to also give separate credits to Beyoncé & Jay-Z.

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Re: Should The Carters' music be listed under Beyoncé and Jay-Z as well?

Post by panam » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:13 pm

Henrik wrote:Quoted from another topic:
Jimoincolor wrote:Interestingly, Pitchfork credits Beyoncé & Jay-Z as the artists behind the EIL project, and not The Carters. I know it is the same thing (this is their last name, not a group name or something), but I have a feeling that Acc. Music will separate the credits and consider it a different group, which will be very weird.
I think The Carters should have its own entry on AM. And I don't think I have ever given credit to separate members in addition to the main entry. But The Carters have, so far, been presented as a collaboration rather than a band, so maybe it would be correct to also give separate credits to Beyoncé & Jay-Z.

Thoughts? Does anyone reckon any past similar projects?
It reminds me to The Throne, the project of Jay Z with Kanye. The same case.

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Re: Should The Carters' music be listed under Beyoncé and Jay-Z as well?

Post by jamieW » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:18 pm

I think it'd be good to list the entry under Beyoncé & Jay-Z, as well. I'd obviously feel differently if The Carters were a band or family act (like "The Jacksons"), but this was only the two as a duo. I don't think it's any different than "Crazy in Love" or "Drunk in Love," which are listed under both artists on AM. They just decided to change their name to "The Carters," since they are now a married couple. I hope this makes sense!

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Post by BleuPanda » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:52 pm

Is boygenius going to be its own entry? They're credited individually on Spotify but the band in other places.

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Re: Should The Carters' music be listed under Beyoncé and Jay-Z as well?

Post by Henrik » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:26 pm

BleuPanda wrote:Is boygenius going to be its own entry? They're credited individually on Spotify but the band in other places.
I’m thinking that both boygenius and Kids See Ghosts will have their own entries, and that their albums and songs will not be listed on the group members’ pages. Like Run the Jewels or any old supergroup.
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Post by Setherex » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:21 am

jamieW wrote:I'd obviously feel differently if The Carters were a band or family act (like "The Jacksons"), but this was only the two as a duo.
Curiously enough, I came into this topic thinking, "I'd obviously feel differently if EIL was a good album." As it is otherwise, uh... sure? Individual? Whatever. Such is life.

Agree with the above that KSG and boygenius having their own entries is probably fair. But maybe a more complete way of linking individual artists to their included groups is for the future of this site.

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Re: Should The Carters' music be listed under Beyoncé and Jay-Z as well?

Post by Jimoincolor » Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:22 am

One thing to be noticed here as well is that "Everything is Love" is listed on Beyoncé's official site as one of her albums: https://beyonce.com/album/everything-is-love/credits/

As cited above, the tour that promoted the project was under "Beyoncé & Jay-Z", and not "The Carters"

I think is very safe to say that this album is a collaborative project under their marriage name, nothing more than that. It's not a new group.

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