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Is Drake's So Far Gone on the spreadsheet supposed to be the mixtape or the EP? (Or both?)
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Sweepstakes Ron wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:16 pm Is Drake's So Far Gone on the spreadsheet supposed to be the mixtape or the EP? (Or both?)
I think that the critic might have voted for both, but I'm guessing primarily for the mixtape.
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Henrik, just curious here, why do you need the RYM score? How does that factor into the rankings if it's only critics that are allowed?
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Holden wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:16 pm Henrik, just curious here, why do you need the RYM score? How does that factor into the rankings if it's only critics that are allowed?
I give lower weights to lists that include albums or songs with poor RYM ratings, under the assumption that sales/popularity is (more or less) a factor on these lists. This was seen as a major improvement among forum members when I introduced this method 10-15 years ago.
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Henrik wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:23 pm Bang Jan is working on the last bit of the spotify sheet in the first post.

Remaining work:
Spotify links for 2019 albums (post above)
Info sheet in the first post, letters F-G and I-Q.

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Henrik wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:48 am
Holden wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:16 pm Henrik, just curious here, why do you need the RYM score? How does that factor into the rankings if it's only critics that are allowed?
I give lower weights to lists that include albums or songs with poor RYM ratings, under the assumption that sales/popularity is (more or less) a factor on these lists. This was seen as a major improvement among forum members when I introduced this method 10-15 years ago.
Intrigued how this works for an artist like Taylor Swift who generally doesn't poll when on RYM? Or is it that she tends to be one of the few outliers on lists that aren't necessarily based on sales/popularity and still gets the full benefit of appearing on those lists?
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Henrik wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:49 am
Henrik wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:23 pm Bang Jan is working on the last bit of the spotify sheet in the first post.

Remaining work:
Spotify links for 2019 albums (post above)
Info sheet in the first post, letters F-G and I-Q.

Again, thousand thanks for all the help so far! :obscene-drinkingcheers:
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I can have 2019 Spotify links done today.
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Henrik wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:49 am
Henrik wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:23 pm Bang Jan is working on the last bit of the spotify sheet in the first post.

Remaining work:
Spotify links for 2019 albums (post above)
Info sheet in the first post, letters F-G and I-Q.

Again, thousand thanks for all the help so far! :obscene-drinkingcheers:
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I will do the info spreadsheet for letters F-G in the next few days.
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nquoid wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:01 am
Henrik wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:48 am
Holden wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:16 pm Henrik, just curious here, why do you need the RYM score? How does that factor into the rankings if it's only critics that are allowed?
I give lower weights to lists that include albums or songs with poor RYM ratings, under the assumption that sales/popularity is (more or less) a factor on these lists. This was seen as a major improvement among forum members when I introduced this method 10-15 years ago.
Intrigued how this works for an artist like Taylor Swift who generally doesn't poll when on RYM? Or is it that she tends to be one of the few outliers on lists that aren't necessarily based on sales/popularity and still gets the full benefit of appearing on those lists?
What?
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Here are the spotify links for 2019!
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Henrik wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:48 am
Holden wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:16 pm Henrik, just curious here, why do you need the RYM score? How does that factor into the rankings if it's only critics that are allowed?
I give lower weights to lists that include albums or songs with poor RYM ratings, under the assumption that sales/popularity is (more or less) a factor on these lists. This was seen as a major improvement among forum members when I introduced this method 10-15 years ago.
I like it but i hope scores/ratings be updated because in 15 years many things have changed.
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C-E is done.
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Thank you so much, guys! Only I-Q left to grab... :happy-partydance:
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Spotify spreadsheet done!
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I can take I-K right now.
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I-K Done!
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panam wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:00 pm
nquoid wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:01 am
Henrik wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:48 am

I give lower weights to lists that include albums or songs with poor RYM ratings, under the assumption that sales/popularity is (more or less) a factor on these lists. This was seen as a major improvement among forum members when I introduced this method 10-15 years ago.
Intrigued how this works for an artist like Taylor Swift who generally doesn't poll when on RYM? Or is it that she tends to be one of the few outliers on lists that aren't necessarily based on sales/popularity and still gets the full benefit of appearing on those lists?
What?
As in an artist like Taylor Swift isn't just on lists dictated by sales/popularity, but doesn't fare well on RYM. Does her appearing on a Pitchfork or Rolling Stones list negatively affect those lists, or is it leveled out by those lists also featuring well regarded artists on RYM.
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nquoid wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:12 am
panam wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:00 pm
nquoid wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:01 am

Intrigued how this works for an artist like Taylor Swift who generally doesn't poll when on RYM? Or is it that she tends to be one of the few outliers on lists that aren't necessarily based on sales/popularity and still gets the full benefit of appearing on those lists?
What?
As in an artist like Taylor Swift isn't just on lists dictated by sales/popularity, but doesn't fare well on RYM. Does her appearing on a Pitchfork or Rolling Stones list negatively affect those lists, or is it leveled out by those lists also featuring well regarded artists on RYM.
In short, it’s both... And I hope it’s ok if I don’t go into details of the weighting system. This is just one out of many weighting parameters.
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^ One problem with this weighting system might be that it also weakens lists containing releases that are especially obscure/experimental/adventurous. In the excel list I was just working on was one example of this: an experimental electronic album by a Kuwaiti artist with a RYM rating of just 2,80.

Anyway, info for F-G is done! Again, I mentioned all borderline cases in the "Comments" column. Also, I learned that Robert Christgau has given an A+ rating to a Gogol Bordello album...
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I will do N-Q.
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Thanks Sweepstakes Ron! After that it’s all done!
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Just a question about "Info about 2007-2019 albums":
Why a RYM Column rating, do you take this rym rating into consideration in AM?
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lagire wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:11 am Just a question about "Info about 2007-2019 albums":
Why a RYM Column rating, do you take this rym rating into consideration in AM?
See discussion above.
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N-Q complete!
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Sweepstakes Ron wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:00 pm N-Q complete!
Thanks Sweepstakes Ron and everyone else! :obscene-drinkingcheers:
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I thought everything had been done, but L and M remains. I hope it's ok for one or two people to bring together these last pieces of information. Thanks!
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Henrik wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:40 pm I thought everything had been done, but L and M remains. I hope it's ok for one or two people to bring together these last pieces of information. Thanks!
I am going to take L
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Vacantjoy wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:28 am
Henrik wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:40 pm I thought everything had been done, but L and M remains. I hope it's ok for one or two people to bring together these last pieces of information. Thanks!
I am going to take L
I didn't finish it because i don't know how to so i stopped at christgau.rating.It was my first try,hope it's helpful!
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Vacantjoy wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:14 pm
Vacantjoy wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:28 am
Henrik wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:40 pm I thought everything had been done, but L and M remains. I hope it's ok for one or two people to bring together these last pieces of information. Thanks!
I am going to take L
I didn't finish it because i don't know how to so i stopped at christgau.rating.It was my first try,hope it's helpful!
Many thanks Vacantjoy, definitely helpful! Could someone complete L and someone else do M?

For the ratings, I provided links to the different sources in the header row. I hope this is clear enough, otherwise don’t hesitate to ask.
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I'll finish L soon!
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Henrik wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:54 pm
Vacantjoy wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:14 pm
Vacantjoy wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:28 am

I am going to take L
I didn't finish it because i don't know how to so i stopped at christgau.rating.It was my first try,hope it's helpful!
Many thanks Vacantjoy, definitely helpful! Could someone complete L and someone else do M?

For the ratings, I provided links to the different sources in the header row. I hope this is clear enough, otherwise don’t hesitate to ask.
You're welcome Henrik , i am glad it was helpful...I haven't used excel before neither i knew scaruffi and all these musical critics/sites .I think that i am going to help with M artists too...
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Okay, L is done!!
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Holden wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:06 pm Okay, L is done!!
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Vacantjoy wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:48 pm
Henrik wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:54 pm
Vacantjoy wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:14 pm

I didn't finish it because i don't know how to so i stopped at christgau.rating.It was my first try,hope it's helpful!
Many thanks Vacantjoy, definitely helpful! Could someone complete L and someone else do M?

For the ratings, I provided links to the different sources in the header row. I hope this is clear enough, otherwise don’t hesitate to ask.
You're welcome Henrik , i am glad it was helpful...I haven't used excel before neither i knew scaruffi and all these musical critics/sites .I think that i am going to help with M artists too...
That's awesome! :)

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...I'm not sure if Vacantjoy has started with M...?

I've got time to work on the new all-time list tomorrow and need the complete info sheet to include these additional albums correctly. If someone could do M during my sleep tonight that would be extremely appreciated!
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I'll do M, so vacantjoy don't worry about it!
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Henrik wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:28 pm ...I'm not sure if Vacantjoy has started with M...?

I've got time to work on the new all-time list tomorrow and need the complete info sheet to include these additional albums correctly. If someone could do M during my sleep tonight that would be extremely appreciated!
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Vacantjoy wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:53 pm
Henrik wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:28 pm ...I'm not sure if Vacantjoy has started with M...?

I've got time to work on the new all-time list tomorrow and need the complete info sheet to include these additional albums correctly. If someone could do M during my sleep tonight that would be extremely appreciated!
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Holden wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:15 pm
Vacantjoy wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:53 pm
Henrik wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:28 pm ...I'm not sure if Vacantjoy has started with M...?

I've got time to work on the new all-time list tomorrow and need the complete info sheet to include these additional albums correctly. If someone could do M during my sleep tonight that would be extremely appreciated!
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Holden wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:15 pm
Vacantjoy wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:53 pm
Henrik wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:28 pm ...I'm not sure if Vacantjoy has started with M...?

I've got time to work on the new all-time list tomorrow and need the complete info sheet to include these additional albums correctly. If someone could do M during my sleep tonight that would be extremely appreciated!
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Get as far as you can and I can continue it if you need help again.
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Alright, here is M! Have fun Henrik!

For real this time!!!
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Holden wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:35 am Alright, here is M! Have fun Henrik!
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Holden wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:35 am Alright, here is M! Have fun Henrik!
Thanks Vacantjoy and Holden!

Holden, you’ve done an amazing job with the albums poll, planning a new poll and also helping out here. You deserve a break now. (and a beer if you like) :obscene-drinkingcheers:
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holden did you continue from the christgau.rating ? I am asking because when i am downloading your excel it is stopped where i left it....
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Vacantjoy wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:40 am holden did you continue from the christgau.rating ? I am asking because when i am downloading your excel it is stopped where i left it....
Shucks, you're right! I renamed the wrong file! I'll fix that right away
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Holden wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:48 am
Vacantjoy wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:40 am holden did you continue from the christgau.rating ? I am asking because when i am downloading your excel it is stopped where i left it....
Shucks, you're right! I renamed the wrong file! I'll fix that right away
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In addition , i would like you Henrik to consider in adding the album Jagged Little Pill by Alanis Morissette in the alternative rock genre....sources https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagged_Little_Pill & https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album ... ttle_pill/
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Henrik wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:24 am
Holden wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:35 am Alright, here is M! Have fun Henrik!
Thanks Vacantjoy and Holden!

Holden, you’ve done an amazing job with the albums poll, planning a new poll and also helping out here. You deserve a break now. (and a beer if you like) :obscene-drinkingcheers:
Henrik, have you download the right one? I think there was an error or something. Check this.

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