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Greatest Punk Bands - RESULTS

Post by Edre Peraza » Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:51 pm

The time has come to release the results! Because not enough people did the decade lists, they will be included. I came up with my own method that I will Post here

From greatest to lowest:

50
40
33.3
28.6
25.5
22.2
20.2
18.2
16.7
15.4
14.3
13.3
12.5
11.8
11.1
10.5
9.9
9.4
8.9
8.5
8.1
7.7
7.3
7
6.8
6.6
6.4
6.2
6
5.9
5.8
5.7
5.6
5.5
5.4
5.3
5.2
5.1
5
4.9
4.8
4.7
4.6
4.5
4.4
4.3
4.2
4.1
4

It goes down by increments of .1 the longer it goes on.

I will begin today by ranking the unfortunate bands that only got one vote so they get their time to shine as well. I will possibly later today post 83-51 before going into more detailed rankings of the top 50.
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Re: Greatest Punk Bands - RESULTS

Post by Edre Peraza » Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:58 pm

Top 25 Rankings of bands with just one vote

1. Gogol Bordello
2. Converge
3. Three Oh Sees
4. Die Toten Hosen
5. Joy Division
6. The Strokes
7. Tropical Fuck Storm
8. Ash
9. Finch
10. Millencolin
11. Ty Segall Band
12. Yeah Yeah Yeahs
13. Camp Cope
14. Berurier Noir
15. Face To Face
16. The Hives
17. Linkin Park
18. Drive Like Jehu
19. Incubus
20. Operation Ivy (wtf guys!?!?!)
21. Beastie Boys
22. Rage Against The Machine
23. Wavves
24. The Fall
25. Nina Hagen

(Not gonna lie some of them were shocking. Operation Ivy so low as with Jawbreaker and the fact that Beastie Boys are here. But I am not a gatekeeper so to each their own.)
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Post by Edre Peraza » Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:05 pm

Official Rankings 83-51

83. The Only Ones
82. The Runaways
81. Butthole Surfers
80. The Adverts
79. Agent Orange
78. The Menzingers
77. Reagan Youth
76. Fall Out Boy
75. Au Pairs
74. Bikini Kill
73. MC5
72. Suicidal Tendencies
71. Fear
70. Jawbox
69. Refused
68. Suicide
67. The Cramps
66. Circle Jerks
65. Dead Boys
64. Pere Ubu
63. Sublime
62. Rise Against
61. PUP
60. Taking Back Sunday
59. Pennywise
58. Sum 41
57. Iceage
56. NOFX
55. Jimmy Eat World
54. Misfits
53. Titus Adronicus
52. Dropkick Murphys
51. Mano Negra
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Post by mileswide » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:33 pm

As Edre's been busy, he's asked me to present 50-41.

For this ten, there will be a picture of the band, their poll rank, score, number of voters, their AM rank and any fans who placed the band in their top 20 (as everyone submitted at least that number) as usual.

Each entry will also include their recording most favourably reviewed by a specialist punk critic or 'punkest' release (proper English be Damned!) followed by an excerpt of the review.

Anyway, never mind the intro, here's the start of the top 50- HEY! HO! LET'S GO! :music-guitarred:

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50. Germs

Score: 23.4
Votes: 3
AM rank: 1576
Biggest fans: Live in Phoenix (#11)

Punkest release: (GI) (1979), "The surprisingly poetic words are delivered with a raspy, venomous snarl" (punknews.org, 2019)


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49. My Chemical Romance

Score: 23.6
Votes: 2
AM rank: 1226
Biggest fans: andyd1010 (#13), Edre Peraza (#15)

Punkest release: I Brought You My Bullets, You Brought Me Your Love (2002), "All feelings other than excitement exit as soon as the first chord of the second track bursts through the speakers" (punknews.org, 2003)


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48. X-Ray Spex

Score: 25.4
Votes: 3
AM rank: 584
Biggest fans: mileswide (#11)

Punkest release: Germ Free Adolescents (1978), "Vivid word portraits of a consumer fantasy gone mad" (Julie Burchill and Tony Parsons, The Boy Looked at Johnny (1978)


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47. Wipers

Score: 27.9
Votes: 2
AM rank: 2273
Biggest fans: DaveC (#6)

Punkest release: 'Youth of America' (1981), "I remember the first time I heard it: the song was everything...intelligent without being polinazi annoying and no one sang like [Greg] Sage" (Mish Way of modern punk band White Lung, NME, 2014)


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46. Brand New

Score: 28.1
Votes: 3
AM rank: Unranked
Biggest fans: andyd1010 (#8)

Punkest release: Deja Entendu (2003), "An album that saw the band eschew the pop-punk tag in favor of more complex and dynamic songwriting" (absolutepunk.net, after giving the album a score of 99%, 2016)


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45. Public Image Limited

Score: 28.4
Votes: 3
AM rank: 246
Biggest fans: FrankLotion (#14), granit (#20)

Punkest release: First Issue (1978), "Not only opened punks' minds that were willing to listen to the music that lay just outside of their small scene, but it also got them off their asses to dance" (punknews.org, 2018)


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44. Television

Score: 28.7
Votes: 4
AM rank: 172
Biggest fans: CupOfDreams (#16), BryanBehar (#20)

Punkest release: Marquee Moon (1977), "A record for everyone who boasts a taste for a new exciting music expertly executed, finely in tune, sublimely arranged with a whole new slant on dynamics" (Nick Kent, NME, 1977)


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43. Generation X

Score: 30.4
Votes: 3
AM rank: 2559
Biggest fans: granit (#13), BryanBehar (#18), Edre Peraza (#20)

Punkest release: Generation X (1978), "I had 'Kiss Me Deadly' [a track on the album] stencilled on my T-shirt. I virtually lived every one of the songs on this potent and evocative album" (Paul Simmonds, formerly of folk-punk outfit The Men They Couldn't Hang, on louderthanwar.com, 2019)


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42. Mission of Burma

Score: 31.4
Votes: 4
AM rank: 712
Biggest fans: mileswide (#17), DaveC (#20)

Punkest release: 'Academy Fight Song' (1980), "I still put it on mixtapes" (Thurston Moore, erstwhile of Sonic Youth in an interview with phoenix.com, 2002)


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41. Big Black

Score: 32.4
Votes: 3
AM rank: 525
Biggest fans: mileswide (#7)

Punkest release: Songs about Fucking (1987), "A napalm attack that sticks to your skin like burning party-jell, spiced with hundreds and thousands, a prickly sensation that's as all-consuming as it is repellent" (Underground Magazine, 1987)


Any suggestions, corrections, omissions or objections, please say. In the meantime, I'm going to compile a Spotify playlist for this 10 and possibly the whole results, so feel free to shout out requests for any of the bands revealed so far!
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Post by mileswide » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:28 am

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6aEXy ... YOyWIZkhpA

Anyone know how to make this appear like a playlist instead? Thanks either way!
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40. Violent Femmes

Score: 33.9
Votes: 3
AM rank: 348
Biggest fans: Nassim (#11), acromor (#15), FrankLotion (#20)

Punkest release: 'Country Death Song' (1984), "Bob Biggs [President of L.A. punk label Slash Records] complained 'It's OK until that piano comes in and ruins it'. Obviously Biggs could not tell the difference between a piano and a banjo" (from the spoof trivia page formerly on the band's website, archived 2008)


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39. Blondie

Score: 34.9
Votes: 3
AM rank: 104
Biggest fans: andyd1010 (#7), granit (#18)

Punkest release: Blondie (1976), "Like finding a box of uppers at one of those booze 'n' downer parties so popular a few years ago. It smellt of surf, semen and sand, tasted like sugar but kicked like a mule on sulphate" (Kris Needs, Zigzag, 1977)


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38. Meat Puppets

Score: 35.4
Votes: 4
AM rank: 681
Biggest fans: Live in Phoenix (#7)

Punkest release: Meat Puppets II (1984), "Everything on this album, from the tight musicianship to the deliciously off-key vocals is a landmark" (punknews.org, 2005)


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37. Yellowcard

Score: 36.1
Votes: 3
AM rank: Unranked
Biggest fans: acroamor (#6), andyd1010 (#17)

Punkest release: Midget Tossing (1998), "I am in true love with this album! Props to Yellowcard for showing me what real punk is!" (punknews.org, 2001- not the most measured review I could find but the only one to unambiguously consider Yellowcard punk rather than pop-punk etc.)


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36. FIDLAR

Score: 38.8
Votes: 2
AM rank: Unranked
Biggest fans: Krurze (#5), acroamor (#12)

Punkest release: Too (2015), "A very effective album from a talented band that understand how to make music that is irresistible, catchy and at the same time uncompromising" (ox-fanzine.de, 2015)


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35. Descendents

Score: 40.2
Votes: 6
AM rank: 2731
Biggest fans: Live in Phoenix (#16)

Punkest release: Milo Goes to College (1982) "It was just an instant love affair. I realized that you can make a punk record and have that kind of pop sensibility but also be intricate" (Joey Cape of California punk group Lagwagon, 2013)


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34. Japandroids

Score: 44.9
Votes: 2
AM rank: 491
Biggest fans: acroamor (#2)

Punkest release: Post-Nothing (2009), "Something pure, something without pretense and without any concern for how smart or cool they will sound" (punknews.org, 2009)


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33. Rancid

Score: 47.1
Votes: 3
AM rank: 994
Biggest fans: Edre Peraza (#5), BryanBehar (#15), Nassim (#16)

Punkest release: ...And Out Come the Wolves (1995), "The one-time Operation Ivy members Tim Armstrong and Matt Freeman mix outmoded UK Punk (hello The Ruts and The Clash) with elements of Oi!, ska and dub, and voilà you have a perfect 19-track-long album" (Ox Fanzine, 1995)


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32. The Undertones

Score: 48.9
Votes: 5
AM rank: 451
Biggest fans: Krurze (#9), mileswide (#16), DaveC (#17)

Punkest release: (surprise!) 'Teenage Kicks' (1978), "That is a mighty, mighty record, you know" (John Peel, the first DJ to play punk on British radio, after playing the song on each of his shows for its first two weeks of release and perhaps upon realising it would become his favourite song of all time)


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31. Bad Brains

Score: 49.1
Votes: 5
AM rank: 601
Biggest fans: fasbjd (#7), mileswide (#15)

Punkest release: Black Dots (recorded 1980, released 1996), "A document of blistering hardcore whose intensity would rarely--if ever--be matched again by any other band", (breakmyface.com, 1996)

I've also updated the Spotify playlist, let's hope it doesn't just appear as a link this time!
[spotifyplaylist]http://open.spotify.com/user/mileswide/ ... DhmyWwTPNg[/spotifyplaylist]
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30. The Replacements

Score: 53
Votes: 4
AM rank: 167
Biggest fans: DaveC (#7), CupOfDreams (#8), BryanBehar (#19)

Punkest release: Sorry Ma, Forgot to Take Out the Trash (1981), “Never sacrificed its pop appeal for throat-searing screams and whiplash speed” (punknews.org, 2009)


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29. The Gun Club

Score: 53.8
Votes: 5
AM rank: 509
Biggest fans: acroamor (#8), granit (#10), DaveC (#14)

Punkest release: Fire of Love (1981), "'Sex Beat', 'She's Like Heroin to Me' and 'For the Love of Ivy' [all on the album]...why aren't these songs taught in schools?" (Jack White, The Guardian, 2002)


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28. The Jam

Score: 54.6
Votes: 4
AM rank: 89
Biggest fans: CupOfDreams (#6), DaveC (#12), fasbjd (#14)

Punkest release: 'In the City' (1977), "The bass came roaring up from the mix...it dragged everything ese behind it else behind it by the scruff of the neck. So impressed was I that I got straight out of the bath, picked up my guitar and started trying to play along" (Chas de Whalley, Sounds Magazine, 1977)


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27. Social Distortion

Score: 55.1
Votes: 5
AM rank: 1691
Biggest fans: Edre Peraza (#6), BryanBehar (#9)

Punkest release: Mommy's Little Monster (1983), "There's precious little exciting punky-pop around these days, but this is one of the rare examples of it" (Maximumrocknroll, 1983)


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26. Siouxsie and the Banshees

Score: 57.3
Votes: 3
AM rank: 435
Biggest fans: granit (#4), DaveC (#10), Live in Phoenix (#12)

Punkest release: The Scream (1978), "Strong, abrasive, visceral and constantly inventive, with a thrust that makes the spaces equal partners to the notes" (Melody Maker, 1978)


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25. The Stranglers

Score: 59.3
Votes: 5
AM rank: 412
Biggest fans: DaveC (#9), granit (#11), Live in Phoenix (#13), CupOfDreams (#14)

Punkest release: No More Heroes (1977), "Drops whatever restraint may have been in force the first time around. Rude words and adult themes abound, with no punches pulled" (trouserpress.com, 2010)


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24. Weezer

Score: 59.4
Votes: 2
AM rank: 158
Biggest fans: andyd1010 (#1), acroamor (#18)

Punkest release: (acroamor will no doubt be pleased) Pinkerton (1996), "A martyr, an album made so other, especially major label bands didn't have to cross that line and could write slightly more palatable alt-rock" (punknews.org, 2016)


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23. Black Flag

Score: 62.1
Votes: 7
AM rank: 495
Biggest fans: BryanBehar (#13), Krurze (#14), FrankLotion (#17)

Punkest release: (sorry any Morris, Reyes or Cadena followers) Damaged (1981), "Barely contained rock energy and tongue-in-cheek lyrics" (trouserpress.com, 2010)


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22. Bad Religion

Score: 72.1
Votes: 4
AM rank: 1731
Biggest fans: Edre Peraza (#4), fasbjd (#8), BryanBehar (#10), Krurze (#17)

Punkest release: No Control (1989) "The lack of rhythmic and stylistic variety can't sabotage this firecracker, as the sheer power of might meeting melody is too satisfying" (trouserpress.com, 2010)


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21. Parquet Courts

Score: 72.9
Votes: 5
AM rank: 690
Biggest fans: Krurze (#4), FrankLotion (#9), CupOfDreams (#15), acroamor (#16)

Punkest release: Light up Gold (2012), "Delivered short, sharp tracks with a distinctive DIY feel" (punktastic.com, 2014)


The Spotify playlist should be up-to-date, even through the earlier-posted links, so I won't try posting it again for now.

I'm taking a break before approaching the final 20 but anyone dare hazard a guess at who will sit at the top of the punk pile? Anyone wish they'd included/excluded a certain band?
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Post by FrankLotion » Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:38 am

Given that they were on or near the top of most lists I would say the Clash are a safe bet

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Guessing (and rooting for) the Ramones!

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Post by mileswide » Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:01 pm

Both are plausible and laudable forecasts, time to see whether they end up in our top 20!
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Post by Rob » Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:00 pm

Here you go, Mileswide:


I can't blame you for not getting it done, because posting a Spotify playlist on this forum has become extremely convoluted and user-unfriendly.
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Post by mileswide » Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:24 pm

Every punk band needs a rallying cry, so above each remaining entry will be a slogan aiming to sum up the band, which might be a fan nickname, critic quote or a representative lyric.

But I've got better things to do than sit around and write this intro like getting on with the top 20, which I'll do riiiight...NOW:
I'VE GOT A STRAIGHT EDGE
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20. Minor Threat

Score: 75.8
Votes: 7
AM rank: 774
Biggest fans: Nassim (#3), mileswide (#14)

Punkest release: Minor Threat (1984), "One of the most intense, ungodly force-of-technology records ever launched" (trouserpress.com, 2010)

It went from the Captain pissing in the monitors to destroying entire hotels. We were horrible English hooligans"
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19. The Damned

Score: 83.1
Votes: 8
AM rank: 462
Biggest fans: CupOfDreams (#7), DaveC (#11), fasbjd (#12), Live in Phoenix (#20)

Punkest release: 'New Rose' (1976, had to be the first UK punk single really, didn't it?), "Brought focus to the still burgeoning punk scene...a stunning return to basics which threw every last iota of expertise and experience to the winds" (Dave Thompson, Goldmine, 1992)

What we need...is an ALTENATIVE ULSTER! Grab it, IT'S YOURS!
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18. Stiff Little Fingers

Score: 86
Votes: 6
AM rank: 761
Biggest fans: DaveC (#2), BryanBehar (#6)

Punkest release: Inflammable Material (1979), "A magnificent slice of vintage punk played fast and frantic, and loaded with powerful lyrics and forceful hooks", (Gary Bushell, Sounds Magazine, 1979)

Our band could be your life
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17. Minutemen

Score: 86
Votes: 7
AM rank: 506
Biggest fans: acroamor (#4), CupOfDreams (#10), BryanBehar (#16), Live in Phoenix (#17), FrankLotion (#18)

Punkest release: Paranoid Time EP (1980), "The songs all dealt with the paranoia of growing up in Cold War America. But unlike their hardcore peers...the lyrics were abstract explorations of these issues, not straightforward tirades" (punknews.org, 2008)

When I'm writing...instead of shooting smack, I masturbate- 14 times in a row
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16. Patti Smith/Patti Smith Group

Score: 93.7
Votes: 7
AM rank: 90
Biggest fans: Live in Phoenix (#4), granit (#7), acroamor (#9), DaveC (#15), fasbjd (#18)

Punkest release: Horses (1975), "A brilliant explosion of talent by a challenging, unique artist pioneering a sound not yet fashionable or, by general standards, even acceptable" (trouserpress.com, 2010)

We've been doing this for 25 years and I don't think we've ever had to try and show maturity in that time
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15. The Offspring

Score: 102.3
Votes: 8
AM rank: 620
Biggest fans: Edre Peraza (#2), mileswide (#13), Krurze (#15), acroamor (#17)

Punkest release: Ignition (1992), "Every song is a winner on this disc, no fillers, deep and dark messages in a lot of these songs" (punknews.org, 2001)

Am I strung out? Crazy?
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14. Blink-182

Score: 106.9
Votes: 6
AM rank: 746
Biggest fans: andyd1010 (#2), acroamor (#3), Krurze (#12), Nassim (#19)

Punkest release: Dude Ranch (1997), "The enthusiasm and energy, which arives in splashes of revivifying electricity, give the album an exhilarating power" (trouserpress.com, 2010)

'Dirt' is a perfect example of what our attitude was. You know, 'Fuck all this shit, we're dirt, we don't care'
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13. The Stooges

Score: 110.4
Votes: 5
AM rank: 72
Biggest fans: fasbjd (#3), Nassim (#4), granit (#6), Krurze (#8)

Punkest release: Fun House (1970), "Upon first listen, a few things hit me: Ok, this is my favorite record, and it's the purest record I've ever heard, and I'm never going to anything that good" (Henry Rollins in an interview with Rolling Stone, 2019)

The thing is we've never proselytised and that's why it has some potency
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12. Gang of Four

Score: 126.9
Votes: 7
AM rank: 255
Biggest fans: DaveC (#3), Live in Phoenix (#5), Nassim (#7), CupOfDreams (#11), FrankLotion (#12), acroamor (#14), fasbjd (#20)

Punkest release: Entertainment! (1979), "An impressive, efficient and provocative debut" (Jon Savage, Melody Maker, 1979)

We're desperate! Get used to it! It's kiss or kill
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11. X

Score: 134.3
Votes: 9
AM rank: 363
Biggest fans: BryanBehar (#1), CupOfDreams (#9), Nassim (#9), Live in Phoenix (#14), DaveC (#16), fasbjd (#17), FrankLotion (#19)

Punkest release: Wild Gift (1981), "[Billy] Zoom's ingeniously simple guitar transcends its influences, and the [John] Doe/Exene [Cervenka] harmonies attain a knifelike sharpness" (trouserpress.com, 2010)
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Re: Greatest Punk Bands - RESULTS

Post by mileswide » Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:31 pm

Rob wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:00 pm
I can't blame you for not getting it done, because posting a Spotify playlist on this forum has become extremely convoluted and user-unfriendly.
I was waiting in hope for someone else to think for me, thank you very much Rob for being that person! How did you do it? I tried it by 'quoting' one of your playlists on Biggest Fan, then changing the url to resemble that of my playlist but to no avail...
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We don't get up there and preach. We don't have our sermon written out. We play what we feel like playing that night
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10. Hüsker Dü

Score: 136.1
Votes: 6
AM rank: 128
Biggest fans: BryanBehar (#2), FrankLotion (#4), CupOfDreams (#5), Live in Phoenix (#6), fasbjd (#10)

Punkest release: Flip Your Wig (1985), "Minneapolis' most powerful trio refining their pop thrash to maximum intensity" (Lenny Kaye, guitarist in the Patti Smith Group and first critic to refer to 'punk rock' in his liner notes to the seminal garage compilation Nuggets, Spin, 1986)

It's the suede denim secret police, they have come for your uncool niece!
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9. Dead Kennedys

Score: 136.6
Votes: 11
AM rank: 409
Biggest fans: mileswide (#6), Edre Peraza (#7), granit (#9), acroamor (#10), BryanBehar (#12), Nassim (#18), DaveC (#19), Live in Phoenix (#19)

Punkest release: Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables (1980), "None of their later output would top the catchy, high energy brutalism of Fresh..." (punknews.org, 2017)

We've been addressing the #MeToo movement and shitty patriarchal systems of injustice and subjugation since 1995!
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8. Sleater-Kinney

Score: 155.2
Votes: 8
AM rank: 170
Biggest fans: FrankLotion (#1), Nassim (#5), DaveC (#8), Live in Phoenix (#8), mileswide (#8), CupOfDreams (#18), acroamor (#19)

Punkest release: Sleater-Kinney (1995), "They suit each other perfectly. The result: pissed-off guitar-heavy punk somewhere between Tribe 8 and Bikini Kill" (Ox Fanzine, 1996)

The whole idea of sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll or the idea of alcohol. Who really supports the idea of alcohol being a huge part of music? The alcohol industry
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7. Fugazi

Score: 180.1
Votes: 7
AM rank: 230
Biggest fans: acroamor (#1), Nassim (#1), fasbjd (#6), BryanBehar (#7), FrankLotion (#7), CupOfDreams (#13)

Punkest release: The Argument (2001), "Fugazi going out at the top of their game" (punknews.org, 2018)

Why are there no clouds in the sky? 'Cause God wants to see his favorite band play again!
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6. Green Day

Score: 192.5
Votes: 9
AM rank: 136
Biggest fans: Edre Peraza (#1), andyd1010 (#3), Krurze (#7), BryanBehar (#8), Live in Phoenix (#9), mileswide (#9), FrankLotion (#10), acroamor (#11)

Punkest release: Dookie (1994), "These are singalongs from beginning to secret-track end" (punknews.org, 2014)

When the much-saluted bywords of British punk were 'rebellion', 'relevance' and 'gritty realism', they brought something fresh, pithy and even humorous
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5. Buzzcocks

Score: 203.9
Votes: 10
AM rank: 298
Biggest fans: DaveC (#1), CupOfDreams (#3), BryanBehar (#5), granit (#5), Live in Phoenix (#10), mileswide (#10), Nassim (#12), fasbjd (#15), FrankLotion (#15)

Punkest release: Spiral Scratch EP (1977), "A seminal artifact of '70s DIY [not least because it was the first independently released punk record]" (trouserpress.com, 2010)

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4. Wire

Score: 209.2
Votes: 9
AM rank: 205
Biggest fans: CupOfDreams (#2), Krurze (#2), Nassim (#2), mileswide (#4), fasbjd (#5), FrankLotion (#11), DaveC (#18), Live in Phoenix (#18)

Punkest release: Pink Flag (1977), "Weighs in with an astonishing 21 tracks and is all excellent coming at music from a different angle" (punk77.com, 2019)

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3. Sex Pistols

Score: 220.9
Votes: 9
AM rank: 82
Biggest fans: granit (#1), Live in Phoenix (#1), DaveC (#5), FrankLotion (#5), Edre Peraza (#9), fasbjd (#9), BryanBehar (#11), mileswide (#12), CupOfDreams (#19)

Punkest release: Never Mind the Bollocks (1977), "A direct, honest, no bullshit album which contains some of the most vital rock songs of this decade, brutal, real and full of energy and passion" (Kris Needs, Sounds, 1977)

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2. Ramones

Score: 308.7
Votes: 10
AM rank: 78
Biggest fans: CupOfDreams (#1), Krurze (#1), fasbjd (#2), granit (#2), Edre Peraza (#3), Live in Phoenix (#3), BryanBehar (#4), FrankLotion (#8), mileswide (#20)

Punkest release: Ramones (1976), "The band go on to fashion a sound so monomaniacally insistent that this record poses a direct threat to any vaguely sensitive woofer and/or tweeter lodged in your hi-fi" (Nick Kent, NME, 1976)

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1. The Clash!

Score: 378.5
Votes: 13
AM rank: 18
Biggest fans: fasbjd (#1), mileswide(#1), FrankLotion (#2), Live in Phoenix (#2), BryanBehar (#3), granit (#3), CupOfDreams (#4), acroamor (#5), andyd1010 (#5), Krurze (#10), Edre Peraza (#12), DaveC (#13), Nassim (#15)

Punkest release: The Clash (1977), "THE CLASH ALBUM IS LIKE A MIRROR. IT REFLECTS ALL THE SHIT. IT SHOWS US THE TRUTH [caps not mine]" (Mark Perry in his Sniffin' Glue fanzine on the album that most likely inspired him to start his own band Alternative TV)


It wasn't to be for Ramones, bad luck Krurze, but well predicted Frank on calling a victory for The Clash!

I'll round this all up by presenting the decade lists in one go tomorrow but was there any part of the results anyone didn't see coming? Wire appearing at 4 was the main upset for me, we seem to rate them higher as a forum than both critics and the general public, we've clearly got better taste :music-rockon:
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Post by Live in Phoenix » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:46 pm

Thanks Edre Peraza and mileswide. I tried to guesstimate who the remaining 10 were -- I probably should have been able to guess them all, but in particular I blanked out on Fugazi. Without looking at the numbers, I would have thought that Green Day might end up #1 or #2, just because they've been popular in a way that, say, the Ramones never were.

So when this forum ran the Top Artists poll, I listed the 10 highest acts that haven't been inducted into our forum's Hall of Acclaim. Here are the highest punk acts from this poll that haven't been inducted yet. (I'm planning to run the next Hall of Acclaim after Christmas is over.)

7. Fugazi
9. Dead Kennedys
12. Gang of Four
14. Blink-182
15. The Offspring
17. Minutemen
18. Stiff Little Fingers
19. The Damned
20. Minor Threat
21. Parquet Courts

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Re: Greatest Punk Bands - RESULTS

Post by mileswide » Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:36 pm

We're going to look at the top 5s for each era based on the individual decade lists (top 3 for the 21st Century due to so much eclecticism). There was no formula for this, just scoring according to rank, even if that meant scores favouring the longer lists. Single-vote choices were also excluded. Here are the lists:

70s
1. The Clash: 5 votes, 47 points
2. Sex Pistols: 5 votes, 36 points (more #2 places than...)
3. Ramones: 5 votes, 36 points
4. Buzzcocks: 4 votes, 20 points
5. Wire: 4 votes, 17 points

80s
1. Dead Kennedys: 3 votes, 32 points
2. The Clash: 2 votes, 27 votes
3. Black Flag: 3 votes, 26 points
4. Hüsker Dü: 3 votes, 20 points
5. Bad Religion: 2 votes, 15 points

90s
1. Green Day: 4 votes, 45 points
2. The Offspring: 3 votes, 22 points
3. Sublime: 3 votes, 21 points
4. Rancid: 3 votes, 18 points
5. Social Distortion: 2 votes, 16 points

21st Century
1. Green Day: 4 votes, 39 points
2. Sleater-Kinney: 2 votes, 20 points
3. Blink-182: 2 votes, 16 points

There were no spreadsheets for the decade lists as I just used paper for those. I was going to attach the Excel for the main results but my laptop has had other ideas, so I'll revisit that tomorrow!
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Re: Greatest Punk Bands - RESULTS

Post by Edre Peraza » Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:25 am

Live in Phoenix wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:46 pm
Thanks Edre Peraza and mileswide. I tried to guesstimate who the remaining 10 were -- I probably should have been able to guess them all, but in particular I blanked out on Fugazi. Without looking at the numbers, I would have thought that Green Day might end up #1 or #2, just because they've been popular in a way that, say, the Ramones never were.

So when this forum ran the Top Artists poll, I listed the 10 highest acts that haven't been inducted into our forum's Hall of Acclaim. Here are the highest punk acts from this poll that haven't been inducted yet. (I'm planning to run the next Hall of Acclaim after Christmas is over.)

7. Fugazi
9. Dead Kennedys
12. Gang of Four
14. Blink-182
15. The Offspring
17. Minutemen
18. Stiff Little Fingers
19. The Damned
20. Minor Threat
21. Parquet Courts
Interesting. The Offspring and Dead Kennedys should have been in there by now. Not going to lie, I have kinda always been annoyed with the reputation The Offspring has gotten over the years. I feel like ever since Pretty Fly and Original Prankster they kinda dont get treated as seriously as a band but both their old stuff and more recent material is pretty quality in my opinion. Not even just that, The Offspring are one of the most influential independent bands of the 90s (up until after Smash) and have influence so many people
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Re: Greatest Punk Bands - RESULTS

Post by Edre Peraza » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:15 am

Also I am glad to see some of my favorite 90s punk bands the paved the way for skate punk, and later pop punk, do well (Green Day, The Offspring, Bad Religion, Social Distortion, Rancid) I was worried because I knew there would be a lot of 70s
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Re: Greatest Punk Bands - RESULTS

Post by mileswide » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:14 am

Live in Phoenix wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:46 pm
(I'm planning to run the next Hall of Acclaim after Christmas is over.)
Cheers LiP, I wasn't aware of the Hall (I must not have seen that post during the Artists poll), like the sound of it though! Out of the ones yet to be inducted, I imagine Gang of Four and PQ having more clout by dint of having a following on the forum that goes beyond punk fans (I also would've voted for both if I felt more certain that they were punk).
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Re: Greatest Punk Bands - RESULTS

Post by Rob » Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:01 am

mileswide wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:31 pm
Rob wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:00 pm
I can't blame you for not getting it done, because posting a Spotify playlist on this forum has become extremely convoluted and user-unfriendly.
I was waiting in hope for someone else to think for me, thank you very much Rob for being that person! How did you do it? I tried it by 'quoting' one of your playlists on Biggest Fan, then changing the url to resemble that of my playlist but to no avail...
Alright, here goes.

This is the link address you get when you copy it from Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6aEXy ... YOyWIZkhpA

This is how it should look:
http://open.spotify.com/user/mileswide/ ... mx1csPGsxj

The changes in a row:
- Remove the 's' in https.
- Remove everything in the url after and including the question mark.
- Between 'open.spotify.com/' there need to be two new elements. First add 'user/'.
- Second add your username. I suspect that you might have gone wrong here when checking the styling of one of my playlist, as you might not have recognized my very old username 'theonering', which shows up nowhere else anymore except in this url.
- Of course, after you have fixed your url you must select it and press the spotifyplaylist button.

Really, that playlist button has become next to useless as it seems to recognize playlists in an outdated way.

By the way, thanks for the presentation and poll, Mileswide and Edre Peraza! I couldn't find time to make my own list, but the roll-out was great and I will certainly listen to the playlist.

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Re: Greatest Punk Bands - RESULTS

Post by mileswide » Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:11 pm

Rob wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:01 am
Alright, here goes.
I'd done all that, including changing "theonering" to "mileswide" :? Thanks for going through it all though, I take it Henrik knows about this glitch?

Keeping with the playlist, I've replaced the Germs track that was on there as it was coming up corrupted or something like that but it's brought the substituting song to the back. Otherwise, though, the order of 49 to 1 is preserved!
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Re: Greatest Punk Bands - RESULTS

Post by mileswide » Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:20 pm

Hopefully the spreadsheet will be found attached now. Even more hopefully it'll be error-free apart from one small mistake I've left in for you to find! (The truth: I'd spotted a miscalculation on the spreadsheet, corrected it while posting it on here but Excel crashed before I had chance to save it, then when I returned to it the next day, I couldn't remember which band the error related to. As I say, though, the presentation did not contain this wrong piece of information)
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Re: Greatest Punk Bands - RESULTS

Post by Edre Peraza » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:41 pm

I would just like to thank everyone for participating in this poll! This has been my first real poll like this so I hope to do more in the future!
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