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Hello all! Thank you so much for your patience, and I'm excited to present you the results! Firstly, thank you to all of our voters. 71 of them!
Here they are:
Edre Peraza
Nick
Jirin
BryanBehar
sonofsamiam
Gillingham
styrofoamBoots
panam
DocBrown
Chris K.
Romain
bonnielaurel
Henry
BleuPanda
Bang Jan
profeta
prosecutorgodot
Arsalan
luvulongTIM
PlasticRam
Fred
Cold Butterfly
M24
mileswide
Sweepstakes Ron
Live in Phoenix
whuntva
Akhenaten
Renan
rumpdoll
VanillaFire1000
Holden
DaveC
Brad
SL3
spiritualized
Harold
antonius
Dan
Nassim
Bruno
Schüttelbirne
Michel
Krurze
Jackson
carlos74
schaefer.tk
Listyguy
FrankLotion
Rocky Raccoon
Rob
nicolas
LunarPiper
Moonbeam
cetamol
vivian
votingbloc
spiderpig
Honorio
notbrianeno
Wezzo
Emerald
jdizzle83
Zombeels
SJner
hero
CupOfDreams
Toni
Father2TheMan
acroamor
andyd1010

Firstly, a couple of notes:

Cold Butterfly and Emerald, I never got your ages! If you let me know I can go through and update the tallies!

Also, if you notice a mistake, PLEASE let me know! There is a lot of data involved here, so I probably made a mistake or two (or more), so please let me know, and I'll update it!

Also, please no spoilers in this thread! I have a predictions thread already where those go!


Anyways, onward! The actual rollout of the Top 1000 will start tomorrow, but here are our first place votes that didn't make the Top 1000!


1684. Nina Hagen Band | Unbehagen (1979)
100.000 Points | 1 Vote
Biggest Fans: Schüttelbirne (#1)


1684. Hanson | Middle of Nowhere (1997)
100.000 Points | 1 Vote
Biggest Fans: vivian (#1)


1482. Kruder & Dorfmeister | DJ-Kicks (1996)
115.719 Points | 2 Votes
Biggest Fans: Krurze (#1)


1208. Tindersticks | Tindersticks [II] (1995)
148.832 Points | 4 Votes
Biggest Fans: Michel (#1)
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ahhh.... Hanson
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If it's not too much trouble, could you update the formatting of my username?
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styrofoamboots wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:27 pm If it's not too much trouble, could you update the formatting of my username?
Yup!
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Wow! A song with 4 votes and a personal number one and out of the list? :o
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Anyone who’s curious of the plan, I intend to post 25 albums every eight hours, that being at 8 am and 8 pm CST. So fifty a day, until the last day, when I’ll leave the top ten to be released on their own day, one at a time. So this rollout will take about three weeks. Is everyone alright with that?
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Holden wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:06 pm Anyone who’s curious of the plan, I intend to post 25 albums every eight hours, that being at 8 am and 8 pm CST. So fifty a day, until the last day, when I’ll leave the top ten to be released on their own day, one at a time. So this rollout will take about three weeks. Is everyone alright with that?

When I read every eight hours I understood 100 albums per day, but I get. I think it could be too slow; my suggestion it'd be 100 albums per day during 1000 to 501, and then 50 per day and finally the Top ten as you say. But you have the last word! You're the Boss! We'll be waiting anyways! :music-rockon:
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I also read 100 a day, but no matter. :)

Three weeks seems a bit long, but then again, 50 a day with batches of 25 sounds quite reasonable.
So I'm fine with that pace and also with panam's option.
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Panam’s idea is a good one! I’ll do that, with 100 a day from 1000-500!
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panam wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:29 pm Wow! A song with 4 votes and a personal number one and out of the list? :o
Same here :o
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1000. The Psychedelic Furs | Talk Talk Talk (1981)
193.583 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 1814
2017 Rank: 939 (-61)
Under 40: 2706
40 and Over: 557
Biggest Fans: Michel (#44)


999. Phil Collins | No Jacket Required (1985)
193.618 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: Unranked
2017 Rank: 1059 (60)
Under 40: 1120
40 and Over: 998
Biggest Fans: profeta (#28), vivian (#45)


998. Tubeway Army | Replicas (1979)
193.628 Points | 4 Votes
AM Rank: 2462
2017 Rank: 1725 (+727)
Under 40: 4734
40 and Over: 454
Biggest Fans: SL3 (#1), Moonbeam (#48)


997. Raekwon | Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... (1995)
193.858 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: 653
2017 Rank: 466 (-531)
Under 40: 955
40 and Over: 1305
Biggest Fans: schaefer.tk (#49), FrankLotion (#100)


996. dEUS | The Ideal Crash (1999)
194.182 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: 1301
2017 Rank: 877 (-119)
Under 40: Unranked
40 and Over: 443
Biggest Fans: spiderpig (#44), spiritualized (#77), rumpdoll (#85)


995. Robyn | Honey (2018)
194.220 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: N/A
2017 Rank: N/A
Under 40: 637
40 and Over: Unranked
Biggest Fans: Toni (#67)


994. Mitski | Bury Me at Makeout Creek (2014)
194.282 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: Unranked
2017 Rank: 2564 (+1570)
Under 40: 828
40 and Over: 1810
Biggest Fans: acroamor (#13)


993. Howlin' Wolf | Howlin' Wolf (1962)
194.522 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 518
2017 Rank: 1439 (+446)
Under 40: 2585
40 and Over: 559
Biggest Fans: SJner (#133)


992. Daryl Hall & John Oates | Private Eyes (1981)
194.802 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: Bubbling Under
2017 Rank: 1127 (+135)
Under 40: 1121
40 and Over: 983
Biggest Fans: profeta (#12), Renan (#34)


991. Lhasa | La Llorona (1997)
194.858 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: Unranked
2017 Rank: 1315 (+324)
Under 40: 3688
40 and Over: 493
Biggest Fans: Romain (#32), SL3 (#87)


990. Goldfrapp | Felt Mountain (2000)
195.109 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 1190
2017 Rank: 1499 (+509)
Under 40: 913
40 and Over: 1443
Biggest Fans: mileswide (#51), Akhenaten (#56)


989. The Go-Betweens | 16 Lovers Lane (1988)
195.195 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 685
2017 Rank: 1206 (+217)
Under 40: 815
40 and Over: 1861
Biggest Fans: Chris K. (#31)


988. Blur | The Great Escape (1995)
195.427 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 1829
2017 Rank: 1228 (+240)
Under 40: 2108
40 and Over: 616
Biggest Fans: Akhenaten (#54)


987. Serge Gainsbourg | "L'homme à tête de chou" (1976)
195.429 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: 1461
2017 Rank: 1120 (+133)
Under 40: 2417
40 and Over: 577
Biggest Fans: Romain (#37), nicolas (#79)


986. The Gaslight Anthem | The '59 Sound (2008)
195.728 Points | 3 Votes
AM Rank: Bubbling Under
2017 Rank: 2081 (+1095)
Under 40: 634
40 and Over: Unranked
Biggest Fans: Wezzo (#2), votingbloc (#60)


985. X | Wild Gift (1981)
196.214 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 831
2017 Rank: 851 (-134)
Under 40: 2376
40 and Over: 579
Biggest Fans: BryanBehar (#73)


984. Wolf Alice | Visions of a Life (2017)
196.235 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: Bubbling Under
2017 Rank: N/A
Under 40: 947
40 and Over: 1276
Biggest Fans: DocBrown (#43)


983. Tom Waits | Mule Variations (1999)
196.323 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 753
2017 Rank: 758 (-225)
Under 40: 1190
40 and Over: 895
Biggest Fans: antonius (#38)


982. Keane | Hopes and Fears (2004)
196.358 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: Bubbling Under
2017 Rank: 1861 (+879)
Under 40: 932
40 and Over: 1347
Biggest Fans: SL3 (#43), Wezzo (#46)


981. Bruce Springsteen | Greetings From Asbury Park, N.J. (1973)
197.078 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 1723
2017 Rank: 621 (-360)
Under 40: 2124
40 and Over: 606
Biggest Fans: Brad (#93)


980. Sonny Sharrock | Ask the Ages (1991)
197.157 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: 2577
2017 Rank: 2034 (+1054)
Under 40: 962
40 and Over: 1229
Biggest Fans: Bang Jan (#90)


979. Joni Mitchell | Ladies of the Canyon (1970)
197.736 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 1523
2017 Rank: 703 (-276)
Under 40: 1321
40 and Over: 803
Biggest Fans: DocBrown (#58)


978. INXS | Kick (1987)
197.880 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 1106
2017 Rank: 875 (-103)
Under 40: 1015
40 and Over: 1109
Biggest Fans: M24 (#91), Father2TheMan (#98)


977. Georges Brassens | 1ère série : Georges Brassens chante les chansons poétiques (...et souvent gaillardes) de... Georges Brassens (1953)
198.454 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: Unranked
2017 Rank: 1365 (+388)
Under 40: 3624
40 and Over: 482
Biggest Fans: nicolas (#14)


976. Fugazi | The Argument (2001)
198.462 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 1073
2017 Rank: 1251 (+275)
Under 40: 761
40 and Over: 2123
Biggest Fans: notbrianeno (#71)
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Great presentation so far, Holden!
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Yeah, this is looking really good! Great to see a couple of my high placements here - wasn't sure they'd make the top 1000.
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975. Laura Marling | Semper femina (2017)
198.720 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 2765
2017 Rank: 1522 (+547)
Under 40: 893
40 and Over: 1444
Biggest Fans: bonnielaurel (#34)


974. American Football | American Football (1999)
198.951 Points | 4 Votes
AM Rank: Unranked
2017 Rank: 978 (+4)
Under 40: 627
40 and Over: Unranked
Biggest Fans: VanillaFire1000 (#30), styrofoamboots (#59)


973. The Microphones | The Glow Pt. 2 (2001)
199.141 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 845
2017 Rank: 1653 (+680)
Under 40: 649
40 and Over: 4839
Biggest Fans: Holden (#50)


972. Max Roach | We Insist! Max Roach's Freedom Now Suite (1961)
199.269 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 1093
2017 Rank: 3208 (+2236)
Under 40: 720
40 and Over: 2557
Biggest Fans: Schüttelbirne (#65)


971. ABBA | The Album (1977)
199.296 Points | 3 Votes
AM Rank: Unranked
2017 Rank: 859 (-112)
Under 40: 679
40 and Over: 3557
Biggest Fans: bonnielaurel (#8), prosecutorgodot (#15)


970. The National | Sleep Well Beast (2017)
200.761 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 696
2017 Rank: N/A
Under 40: 735
40 and Over: 2283
Biggest Fans: andyd1010 (#110)


969. Sonic Youth | EVOL (1986)
200.863 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 760
2017 Rank: 1508 (+539)
Under 40: 1701
40 and Over: 682
Biggest Fans: spiderpig (#43), CupOfDreams (#90)


968. Tom Zé | Estudando o samba (1976)
201.008 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 2147
2017 Rank: 1185 (+217)
Under 40: 799
40 and Over: 1780
Biggest Fans: panam (#55)


967. Leonard Cohen | You Want It Darker (2016)
201.164 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 672
2017 Rank: 1223 (+256)
Under 40: 683
40 and Over: 3245
Biggest Fans: Rob (#81)


966. Super Furry Animals | Radiator (1997)
201.556 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: 1234
2017 Rank: 950 (-16)
Under 40: 1040
40 and Over: 1008
Biggest Fans: Bang Jan (#38)


965. Tori Amos | Under the Pink (1994)
201.566 Points | 4 Votes
AM Rank: 1658
2017 Rank: 1513 (+548)
Under 40: 906
40 and Over: 1339
Biggest Fans: luvulongTIM (#37), bonnielaurel (#68)


964. Kacey Musgraves | Same Trailer Different Park (2013)
201.637 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: Bubbling Under
2017 Rank: 840 (-124)
Under 40: 671
40 and Over: 3660
Biggest Fans: prosecutorgodot (#20)


963. Red Hot Chili Peppers | By the Way (2002)
201.792 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 2091
2017 Rank: 598 (-365)
Under 40: 807
40 and Over: 1721
Biggest Fans: Renan (#40), Arsalan (#46)


962. Howlin' Wolf | Moanin' in the Moonlight (1959)
202.454 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 792
2017 Rank: 991 (+29)
Under 40: 1748
40 and Over: 661
Biggest Fans: Honorio (#113)


961. Radiohead | The King of Limbs (2011)
203.541 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 1671
2017 Rank: 562 (-399)
Under 40: 1005
40 and Over: 1049
Biggest Fans: rumpdoll (#133)


960. Camel | Mirage (1974)
203.951 Points | 4 Votes
AM Rank: Unranked
2017 Rank: 2256 (+1296)
Under 40: 926
40 and Over: 1221
Biggest Fans: DaveC (#28), styrofoamboots (#87), Rob (#97)


959. Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim Rice | Jesus Christ Superstar [Original Concept Recording] (1970)
204.008 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 2074
2017 Rank: 1283 (+324)
Under 40: 1835
40 and Over: 630
Biggest Fans: Brad (#70)


958. Tom Waits | Small Change (1976)
204.066 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 2016
2017 Rank: 983 (+25)
Under 40: 1914
40 and Over: 605
Biggest Fans: DocBrown (#35), Fred (#68), Rob (#84)


957. Deep Purple | Made in Japan (1972)
204.082 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 535
2017 Rank: 1385 (+428)
Under 40: 1430
40 and Over: 741
Biggest Fans: Rob (#51), Michel (#88)


956. Cat Power | Moon Pix (1998)
204.315 Points | 3 Votes
AM Rank: 1929
2017 Rank: Unranked
Under 40: 708
40 and Over: 2487
Biggest Fans: notbrianeno (#12), Cold Butterfly (#25)


955. Squeeze | East Side Story (1981)
204.608 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 942
2017 Rank: 1604 (+649)
Under 40: Unranked
40 and Over: 676
Biggest Fans: Emerald (#50), Henry (#67)


954. Nico | The Marble Index (1968)
204.640 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 1366
2017 Rank: 1201 (+247)
Under 40: 788
40 and Over: 1748
Biggest Fans: Bang Jan (#56), sonofsamiam (#91)


953. Tool | Lateralus (2001)
204.848 Points | 3 Votes
AM Rank: 1227
2017 Rank: 1174 (+221)
Under 40: 1048
40 and Over: 951
Biggest Fans: spiritualized (#4), whuntva (#12)


952. Angel Olsen | All Mirrors (2019)
204.984 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: N/A
2017 Rank: N/A
Under 40: 688
40 and Over: 2816
Biggest Fans: Rob (#105)


951. Au Pairs | Playing with a Different Sex (1981)
206.002 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 2493
2017 Rank: 3694 (+2743)
Under 40: 1300
40 and Over: 766
Biggest Fans: Bang Jan (#138)
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Looks great!

Biggest surprise was seeing Camel's Mirage here. I added that one to Moderately Acclaimed, I think two years ago. Is that what brought it sudden fame here, on a list I think will have otherwise little prog rock outside of the few big ones? I see more Moderately Acclaimed albums of the last few years rising so that game is certainly influential.

Also happy to see All Mirrors and You Want It Darker, as well as new rise of Made in Japan by Deep Purple and the huge surge for We Insist! (which is now curiously more popular among people under 40, despite being from 1961!).
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Unsurprisingly, more recent albums do better with younger AMers but like Rob just mentioned there are a few surprising exceptions. It will be interesting to see if doing better with younger people now is a strong predictor of placing higher next time. In other words, is this showing us how taste evolves?
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Rob wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:12 pm Looks great!

Biggest surprise was seeing Camel's Mirage here. I added that one to Moderately Acclaimed, I think two years ago. Is that what brought it sudden fame here, on a list I think will have otherwise little prog rock outside of the few big ones? I see more Moderately Acclaimed albums of the last few years rising so that game is certainly influential.

Also happy to see All Mirrors and You Want It Darker, as well as new rise of Made in Japan by Deep Purple and the huge surge for We Insist! (which is now curiously more popular among people under 40, despite being from 1961!).
Please provide a few song recommendations from the Mirage album.
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950. Queens of the Stone Age | ...Like Clockwork (2013)
206.066 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 1644
2017 Rank: 951 (+1)
Under 40: 716
40 and Over: 2270
Biggest Fans: M24 (#44), Nassim (#76)


949. Neil Young and Crazy Horse | Ragged Glory (1990)
206.232 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 725
2017 Rank: 1248 (+299)
Under 40: 2553
40 and Over: 519
Biggest Fans: BryanBehar (#31)


948. The Knife | Shaking the Habitual (2013)
206.621 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 824
2017 Rank: 1263 (+315)
Under 40: 606
40 and Over: Unranked
Biggest Fans: BleuPanda (#45), mileswide (#91)


947. Black Flag | Damaged (1981)
206.923 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 370
2017 Rank: 698 (-249)
Under 40: 785
40 and Over: 1696
Biggest Fans: Nick (#203)


946. Mac DeMarco | Salad Days (2014)
206.936 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 1078
2017 Rank: 918 (-28)
Under 40: 605
40 and Over: Unranked
Biggest Fans: Krurze (#19), PlasticRam (#99)


945. Henryk Górecki [London Sinfonietta / David Zinman / Dawn Upshaw] | Symphony No. 3 (1992)
207.202 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: Unranked
2017 Rank: 1421 (+476)
Under 40: Unranked
40 and Over: 415
Biggest Fans: SL3 (#52), Michel (#64), DaveC (#90)


944. Fever Ray | Plunge (2017)
207.324 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 1203
2017 Rank: N/A
Under 40: 624
40 and Over: 4941
Biggest Fans: Holden (#76), notbrianeno (#100)


943. Killer Mike | R.A.P. Music (2012)
207.795 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 1016
2017 Rank: 2297 (+1354)
Under 40: 914
40 and Over: 1179
Biggest Fans: Sweepstakes Ron (#107)


942. Aerosmith | Toys in the Attic (1975)
208.009 Points | 11 Votes
AM Rank: 381
2017 Rank: 588 (-354)
Under 40: 715
40 and Over: 2195
Biggest Fans: Listyguy (#80)


941. Mano Negra | Puta's Fever (1989)
208.099 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 1038
2017 Rank: 1349 (+408)
Under 40: 1102
40 and Over: 866
Biggest Fans: spiritualized (#104)


940. Beach House | 7 (2018)
208.139 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: N/A
2017 Rank: N/A
Under 40: 664
40 and Over: 3229
Biggest Fans: Holden (#68)


939. Comus | First Utterance (1971)
208.615 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 2149
2017 Rank: 1561 (+622)
Under 40: 622
40 and Over: 4920
Biggest Fans: Bang Jan (#115)


938. Missy Elliott | Miss E... So Addictive (2001)
208.700 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 855
2017 Rank: 1189 (+251)
Under 40: 861
40 and Over: 1323
Biggest Fans: notbrianeno (#62), Moonbeam (#93)


937. The Sonics | Here are the Sonics!!! (1965)
208.733 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 839
2017 Rank: 1253 (+316)
Under 40: 1019
40 and Over: 2143
Biggest Fans: Emerald (#77)


936. Chuck Berry | Berry Is on Top (1959)
209.094 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 896
2017 Rank: 722 (-214)
Under 40: 1545
40 and Over: 675
Biggest Fans: Bruno (#128)


935. Prince and The Revolution | Around the World in a Day (1985)
209.986 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 1397
2017 Rank: 567 (-368)
Under 40: 2220
40 and Over: 540
Biggest Fans: Akhenaten (#44)


934. Godspeed You! Black Emperor | 'Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend! (2012)
210.351 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 1645
2017 Rank: 1111 (+177)
Under 40: 1200
40 and Over: 793
Biggest Fans: rumpdoll (#84)


933. Angelo Badalamenti | Soundtrack From Twin Peaks (1990)
210.849 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 2378
2017 Rank: 1119 (+186)
Under 40: 765
40 and Over: 1723
Biggest Fans: Wezzo (#97)


932. Mogwai | Come On Die Young (1999)
210.930 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 1456
2017 Rank: 3009 (+2077)
Under 40: 1409
40 and Over: 711
Biggest Fans: rumpdoll (#49)


931. Bob Marley and The Wailers | Uprising (1980)
211.255 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 2078
2017 Rank: 835 (-96)
Under 40: 1450
40 and Over: 694
Biggest Fans: PlasticRam (#133)


930. Deafheaven | Sunbather (2013)
211.290 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 1398
2017 Rank: 1285 (+355)
Under 40: 635
40 and Over: 3870
Biggest Fans: FrankLotion, acroamor (#90)


929. The Cure | Faith (1981)
211.480 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 2572
2017 Rank: 886 (-43)
Under 40: 2114
40 and Over: 542
Biggest Fans: spiritualized (#85)


928. Supergrass | I Should Coco (1995)
211.823 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 1089
2017 Rank: 626 (-302)
Under 40: 1037
40 and Over: 889
Biggest Fans: luvulongTIM (#41)


927. The Weeknd | Beauty Behind the Madness (2015)
211.996 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: Bubbling Under
2017 Rank: 903 (-24)
Under 40: 589
40 and Over: Unranked
Biggest Fans: Renan (#22), vivian (#31)


926. The Beat | I Just Can't Stop It (1980)
212.036 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 1336
2017 Rank: 2323 (+1397)
Under 40: 1225
40 and Over: 770
Biggest Fans: mileswide (#58), Henry (#68)
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I love all the new faces and reshuffling here at the bottom of the list compared to last time. More classics to eventually dig into!

Also thanks for all the data, Holden.
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The divide between the two age demographics is fascinating to look at, particularly the more pronounced cases, where an album is unranked by one demographic and very highly rated by the other. Seeing Mac DeMarco right next to a Gorecki symphony, one only voted by 40 and under and the other by only 40+ made me crack.

Just out of curiosity, how many of each age demographic are there? Is it a roughly even split or is one larger than the other by a notable extent?
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Under 40: 40
40 and over: 29

So not too bad of a split, but not perfectly even.
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I love the over/under 40 splits! Great addition the roll-out. The pace sounds good to me, though I'd personally prefer a quicker top ten reveal given everyone will know what is left at that point.
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Renan and vivian - you were the top fans for Beauty Behind the Madness. I have just recently started listening more intently to The Weeknd. My favorites from the BBTM album are presently: Can't Feel My Face, In the Night, and Tell Your Friends.

I've heard The Hills a few time and it's also pretty good. Please let me know if there any other songs on the BBTM album that you recommend I listen to a few more times. Thanks!
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Any playlist for starting my listening sessions?
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925. Jimmy Eat World | Bleed American (2001)
212.112 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: Bubbling Under
2017 Rank: 1479 (+554)
Under 40: 599
40 and Over: 5337
Biggest Fans: votingbloc (#4), Wezzo (#45)


924. Kate Bush | The Sensual World (1989)
212.233 Points | 12 Votes
AM Rank: 1675
2017 Rank: 935 (+11)
Under 40: 993
40 and Over: 958
Biggest Fans: SL3 (#90)


923. John Coltrane | Blue Train (1958)
212.313 Points | 11 Votes
AM Rank: 763
2017 Rank: 777 (-146)
Under 40: 874
40 and Over: 1219
Biggest Fans: DocBrown (#210)


922. Yo La Tengo | Painful (1993)
212.348 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 1655
2017 Rank: 1613 (+691)
Under 40: 1362
40 and Over: 716
Biggest Fans: CupOfDreams (#61), styrofoamboots (#98)


921. The Velvet Underground | VU (1985)
212.610 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: 1537
2017 Rank: 1197 (+276)
Under 40: 4334
40 and Over: 420
Biggest Fans: Brad (#30), spiritualized (#49)


920. Sugar | Copper Blue (1992)
213.187 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 711
2017 Rank: 1124 (+204)
Under 40: 1069
40 and Over: 853
Biggest Fans:Wezzo (#17), Fred (#97)


919. Dinosaur Jr. | You're Living All Over Me (1997)
213.258 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 476
2017 Rank: 962 (+43)
Under 40: 670
40 and Over: 2802
Biggest Fans: LunarPiper (#66)


918. Kashiwa Daisuke | Program Music I (2007)
213.668 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: Unranked
2017 Rank: 796 (-122)
Under 40: 1227
40 and Over: 761
Biggest Fans: sonofsamiam (#107)


917. George Michael | Listen Without Prejudice Vol. 1 (1990)
214.054 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 2207
2017 Rank: 1404 (+487)
Under 40: 950
40 and Over: 1006
Biggest Fans: vivian (#53), Akhenaten (#73)


916. The White Stripes | Get Behind Me Satan (2005)
214.158 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 1478
2017 Rank: 697 (-219)
Under 40: 2172
40 and Over: 529
Biggest Fans: Romain (#5), Father2TheMan (#72)


915. Daughters | You Won't Get What You Want (2018)
214.464 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: N/A
2017 Rank: N/A
Under 40: 668
40 and Over: 2749
Biggest Fans: Listyguy (#97)


914. Green Day | nimrod. (1997)
214.494 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: Unranked
2017 Rank: 1087 (+173)
Under 40: 812
40 and Over: 1370
Biggest Fans: spiritualized (#41), prosecutorgodot (#73), Arsalan (#82)


913. Aaliyah | Aaliyah (2001)
214.539 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: 2148
2017 Rank: 1082 (+169)
Under 40: 1319
40 and Over: 2459
Biggest Fans: Emerald (#5), bonnielaurel (#69)


912. Ennio Morricone | C'era una volta il West (1968)
214.762 Points | 4 Votes
AM Rank: 1603
2017 Rank: 1914 (+1002)
Under 40: 839
40 and Over: 1253
Biggest Fans: Rob (#2)


911. Tool | Ænima (1996)
214.822 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 766
2017 Rank: 1205 (+294)
Under 40: 699
40 and Over: 2107
Biggest Fans: notbrianeno (#99)


910. Blondie | Eat to the Beat (1979)
214.858 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 2484
2017 Rank: 1280 (+370)
Under 40: 2931
40 and Over: 462
Biggest Fans: SL3 (#37), Moonbeam (#44)


909. Sixteen Horsepower | Sackcloth 'n' Ashes (1996)
214.983 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: Bubbling Under
2017 Rank: 2178 (+1269)
Under 40: 1103
40 and Over: 817
Biggest Fans: CupOfDreams (#32), Gillingham (#36)


908. The Sundays | Reading, Writing and Arithmetic (1990)
215.017 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 1597
2017 Rank: 580 (-328)
Under 40: 1330
40 and Over: 713
Biggest Fans: Live in Phoenix (#9)


907. The Kinks | Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround (Part One) (1970)
215.104 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 1280
2017 Rank: 1152 (+245)
Under 40: 1518
40 and Over: 652
Biggest Fans: BryanBehar (#69)


906. Prefab Sprout | Jordan: The Comeback (1990)
215.391 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: 1767
2017 Rank: 953 (+47)
Under 40: 1207
40 and Over: 758
Biggest Fans: Bang Jan (#12), sonofsamiam (#49), Fred (#83)


905. The Prodigy | Music for the Jilted Generation (1994)
215.637 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 391
2017 Rank: 1839 (+934)
Under 40: 2995
40 and Over: 452
Biggest Fans: Akhenaten (#51), schaefer.tk (#66)


904. Alvvays | Antisocialites (2017)
215.747 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 2465
2017 Rank: N/A
Under 40: 651
40 and Over: 3094
Biggest Fans: acroamor (#84), luvulongTIM (#90)


903. The Sound | From the Lions Mouth (1981)
215.870 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: Bubbling Under
2017 Rank: 1314 (+411)
Under 40: 984
40 and Over: 929
Biggest Fans: Bang Jan (#72)


902. Ween | The Mollusk (1997)
216.045 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: Unranked
2017 Rank: 1220 (+318)
Under 40: 1313
40 and Over: 714
Biggest Fans: Zombeels (#19)


901. Angel Olsen | MY WOMAN (2016)
216.214 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 694
2017 Rank: 732 (-169)
Under 40: 658
40 and Over: 2901
Biggest Fans: Rob (#40), acroamor (#85)
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For anyone wondering what the colors mean, a green AM Rank means that that album is a “Forum Favorite” which means it beat its AM Rank by a significant amount. A green rank means that it improved upon its 2017 rank by a significant amount, and a red means it lowered it by a significant amount. This factor is multiplicative (1.5 to be exact) so it means that even higher ranked albums can “Forum Favorites.” For example, let’s say Sgt. Peppers got 2nd overall. This would make it a “Forum Favorite,” even though it’s only 3 spots higher than its AM Rank. Similarly, it would be designated as green if it went from 5 to 2 from 2017 to 2020, and an album from 2 in 2017 to 5 in 2020 would get a red designation. I thought this would be an interesting addition to the rollout, hope you like it!
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Thanks for rollout, I can't wait to see how many big shifters there are in the top 100.
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Holden wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:05 pm 71 of them!
Here they are:
Edre Peraza
Nick
Jirin
BryanBehar
sonofsamiam
Gillingham
styrofoamBoots
panam
DocBrown
Chris K.
Romain
bonnielaurel
Henry
BleuPanda
Bang Jan
profeta
prosecutorgodot
Arsalan
luvulongTIM
PlasticRam
Fred
Cold Butterfly
M24
mileswide
Sweepstakes Ron
Live in Phoenix
whuntva
Akhenaten
Renan
rumpdoll
VanillaFire1000
Holden
DaveC
Brad
SL3
spiritualized
Harold
antonius
Dan
Nassim
Bruno
Schüttelbirne
Michel
Krurze
Jackson
carlos74
schaefer.tk
Listyguy
FrankLotion
Rocky Raccoon
Rob
nicolas
LunarPiper
Moonbeam
cetamol
vivian
votingbloc
spiderpig
Honorio
notbrianeno
Wezzo
Emerald
jdizzle83
Zombeels
SJner
hero
CupOfDreams
Toni
Father2TheMan
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Italy doesn’t get the best representation when it comes to music and that’s not even counting pop and rock. I’d like to see that change some day. You never hear of a big Italian scene in really any genre I guess other than soundtracks/scores. Seems to be the most visited, popular country without much love here.
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Thanks for all your work Holden. The Green and Red colours are nice edition.

Two corrections:

915. Daughters | You Won't Get What You Want ()
You missed to put the year in there. 2018.

907. The Kinks | Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround (Part One) (1970)
You put the wrong album cover there. Face to Face is hopefully a lot higher on the list. The album Cover to Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Part One should be this one

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Holden wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:34 am For anyone wondering what the colors mean, a green AM Rank means that that album is a “Forum Favorite” which means it beat its AM Rank by a significant amount. A green rank means that it improved upon its 2017 rank by a significant amount, and a red means it lowered it by a significant amount. This factor is multiplicative (1.5 to be exact) so it means that even higher ranked albums can “Forum Favorites.” For example, let’s say Sgt. Peppers got 2nd overall. This would make it a “Forum Favorite,” even though it’s only 3 spots higher than its AM Rank. Similarly, it would be designated as green if it went from 5 to 2 from 2017 to 2020, and an album from 2 in 2017 to 5 in 2020 would get a red designation. I thought this would be an interesting addition to the rollout, hope you like it!
I really like it, it makes it easier to spot relevant information at a glance. In fact, now I even wish you would also use red for the AM vs. AMF Rank comparison and not only for the previous AMF vs. current AMF rank comparison. But what you're doing is already great so I'm not complaining!
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Good to see Once Upon a Time in the West rise so much, but considering it is obviously the second best album of all time it is still too low.
spiderpig wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:20 pm Unsurprisingly, more recent albums do better with younger AMers but like Rob just mentioned there are a few surprising exceptions. It will be interesting to see if doing better with younger people now is a strong predictor of placing higher next time. In other words, is this showing us how taste evolves?
Well, I also noticed the connection to Moderately Acclaimed game and many of the old albums that both rise and do well with younger people appeared there, so perhaps that game is just played by a younger demographic?
Henry wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:49 pm Please provide a few song recommendations from the Mirage album.
Mirage is very consistent, but the epic 12 minute Lady Fantasy is without a doubt the big classic here. If you want something shorter I would recommend Free Fall or Supertwister.
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Wisnu Tirta Aji wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 5:47 am Where me? It supposedly 72, which means, 71 plus me become 72.
You only gave me a list of ten albums, but you needed 50 to enter.
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My favorite album from each segment :

1000-976 : Fugazi - The Argument.
It's fairly impressive that a band as important and forward thinking band as Fugazi went out with their best album, but imo they sure did.
The Argument is both an encapsulation of Fugazi's career and a step-forward, whether or not it's their best is open to discussion but I think most people would agree it is their most accessible.
The first 3 tracks bring back what made early Fugazi so great : cool bassline, screamed chorus, righteous anger, rythmic mischief... but the rest of the album goes to a slower, moodier pace, peaking on the closer title track.
It also stays as political as ever, ending the band's final verse with a defining line "I'm on a mission to never agree"

975-951 : The Microphones - The Glow pt2
Only 2 albums I voted for in there, and both were fairly low on my list, but there is an endearing quality to The Glow Pt. 2 lo-fi indie rock.
Rarely an album felt like it could fall apart at any time, or that some parts are not played as planned but kept anyway, and it leads to plenty little moments of grace whether it's the fun guitar line that shows up halfway the opening track, the trumpets in the chorus of The Moon or the dizzying effects of Maps
I could do without the "Something" tracks in the middle, or some of the electronic bloops added, but overall it's a surprisingly warm, often impredictable and hugely (once more, for lack of a better word) endearing.

950-926 : Queens of the Stone Age - ...Like Clockwork (a whole bunch of albums I voted for in there though)
I was ready to give up on QOTSA after a disappointing Era Vulgaris and a so-so Josh Homme side project, but oh was I wrong.
...Like Clockwork is fantastic start to finish, maybe even their more consistant record. The cool riffs are here as usual, Fairweather Friends kicks all kind of ass (and what the hell did Elton John take to drop those insane piano melodies ?), My God is The Sun is a cool throwback to Songs for the Deaf era tracks and I Sat by the Ocean to Lullabies to Paralyze, but the album truly shines through its calmer songs, showing a more earnest and personal side of Josh Homme than we had been used to : The Vampyre of Time and Memory is a wonderful piano ballad and I Appear Missing an intense reflection on his period of coma carried by one of those guitar lines he somehow own the secret of, building to the title track, another beautiful and somber piano ballad in which Josh can show off his crooner side.

925-901 : Yo La Tengo - Painful
I somehow discovered this album fairly late, being the 7th Yo La Tengo I heard, but it quickly became my favorite.
To be honest, I'm hung from the first seconds, I opening organ melody on Big Day Coming is utterly lovely (they'll actually repeat that feat of an amazing opener a few albums later with the distant percussions of Everyday) and the rest of the song owns up to it. At its best Yo La Tengo can create a mood that's at the same time melancholic and hopeful (check other masterpieces of them like Our Way to Fall, I'll be Around or More Stars Than There are in Heaven). They can also rock, as the other version of Big Day Coming attests, or find a subtle middle ground like in From a Motel 9 or get in an ethereal mood in Nowhere Near.
Yo La Tengo is a special band in the indie rock community, they seems like those reachable, simple people that just happen to also make gorgeous music again and again. Like Low, a similar band in that aspect, they have rarely, if ever, released a truly bad album, but in my opinion Painful is the most successful one from start to finish.
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Some short reactions to the list so far:

1207. Tindersticks | Tindersticks [II] (1995): Like their debut, this album fell just short of my Top 500. Good to see it, even if it's outside of the list.
997. Raekwon | Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... (1995): Sorry to see this drop so much. Didn't make my list by an inch or so, but a classic anyway.
993./962. Howlin' Wolf: Nice to see him get some attention.
983. Tom Waits | Mule Variations (1999): First album to make my list. For me one of his best, but AM and AMF don't agree.
973. The Microphones | The Glow Pt. 2 (2001): Also made my list. Only got familiar with it last year, so still in rotation.
972. Max Roach | We Insist! Max Roach's Freedom Now Suite (1961): Great to see a not so very well known jazz album make a big jump.
970. The National | Sleep Well Beast (2017): The position of this album of theirs makes me wonder if 'I Am Easy to Find' will make the list, but I don't expect it to.
967. Leonard Cohen | You Want It Darker (2016): I like it that this still made the list, because it partly did so well three years ago because of the timing of the poll.
956. Cat Power | Moon Pix (1998): Nice discovery from the last couple of months. Would probably have made my list as of now.
952. Angel Olsen | All Mirrors (2019: Interesting to see a not too obvious quite recent album make the list.
951. Au Pairs | Playing with a Different Sex (1981): That album cover certainly looks intriguing.
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909. Sixteen Horsepower | Sackcloth 'n' Ashes (1996)

What a great surprise ! Very pleased with this, the album deserves a lot of accolades.
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900. Jacques Brel | Jacques Brel [Ces gens-là] (1966)
217.223 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: Unranked
2017 Rank: 848 (-52)
Under 40: 2969
40 and Over: 449
Biggest Fans: Dan (#2), nicolas (#76)


899. Motörhead | Ace of Spades (1980)
217.245 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 645
2017 Rank: 1076 (+177)
Under 40: 641
40 and Over: 3214
Biggest Fans: Arsalan (#97)


898. Vampire Weekend | Father of the Bride (2019)
217.448 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: N/A
2017 Rank: N/A
Under 40: 648
40 and Over: 3025
Biggest Fans: jdizzle83 (#93)


897. The Clash | Sandinista! (1980)
218.384 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 442
2017 Rank: 1187 (+290)
Under 40: 1122
40 and Over: 786
Biggest Fans: Michel (#77)


896. The Dandy Warhols | Thirteen Tales from Urban Bohemia (2000)
218.510 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: 1673
2017 Rank: 1028 (+132)
Under 40: 4876
40 and Over: 399
Biggest Fans: Zombeels (#20), spiritualized (#50)


895. Florence + The Machine | Lungs (2009)
218.935 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 1494
2017 Rank: 737 (-158)
Under 40: 782
40 and Over: 1409
Biggest Fans: whuntva (50)


894. Charles Mingus | Let My Children Hear Music (1972)
219.091 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 2048
2017 Rank: 2231 (+1337)
Under 40: 941
40 and Over: 955
Biggest Fans: Fred (#80)


893. Aztec Camera | High Land, Hard Rain (1983)
219.220 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 989
2017 Rank: 778 (-115)
Under 40: 1316
40 and Over: 695
Biggest Fans: Honorio (#38), BryanBehar (#83)


892. Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds | Murder Ballads (1996)
219.742 Points | 11 Votes
AM Rank: 1081
2017 Rank: 738 (-154)
Under 40: 1237
40 and Over: 735
Biggest Fans: M24 (#103)


891. Popol Vuh | Hosianna Mantra (1972)
219.895 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: Bubbling Under
2017 Rank: Unranked
Under 40: 626
40 and Over: 3467
Biggest Fans: Krurze (#4)


890. Frank Sinatra | Songs for Swingin' Lovers! (1956)
219.972 Points | 12 Votes
AM Rank: 321
2017 Rank: 645 (-245)
Under 40: 806
40 and Over: 1285
Biggest Fans: bonnielaurel (#65)


889. Mitski | Puberty 2 (2016)
219.989 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 1335
2017 Rank: 656 (-233)
Under 40: 669
40 and Over: 2430
Biggest Fans: acroamor (#59), Rob (#92)


888. Spiritualized | Lazer Guided Melodies (1992)
220.230 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 1511
2017 Rank: 1509 (+621)
Under 40: 2013
40 and Over: 524
Biggest Fans: Fred (#31), spiritualized (#57)


887. Spoon | Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga (2007)
220.467 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 767
2017 Rank: 701 (-186)
Under 40: 756
40 and Over: 1456
Biggest Fans: Chris K. (#86)


886. Mazzy Star | So Tonight That I Might See (1993)
220.582 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 1575
2017 Rank: 849 (-37)
Under 40: 1284
40 and Over: 701
Biggest Fans: Michel (#87)


885. Ride | Going Blank Again (1992)
221.129 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: Bubbling Under
2017 Rank: 4671 (+3786)
Under 40: 3040
40 and Over: 433
Biggest Fans: CupOfDreams (#31), rumpdoll (#74), spiritualized (#84)


884. Public Image Ltd. | Metal Box/Second Edition (1979)
221.190 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 231
2017 Rank: 1710 (+826)
Under 40: 1358
40 and Over: 670
Biggest Fans: CupOfDreams (#128)


883. Elliott Smith | Figure 8 (2000)
221.302 Points | 11 Votes
AM Rank: 958
2017 Rank: 1118 (+235)
Under 40: 910
40 and Over: 1012
Biggest Fans: andyd1010 (#59)


882. The Breeders | Last Splash (1993)
221.398 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 481
2017 Rank: 1366 (+484)
Under 40: 2539
40 and Over: 467
Biggest Fans: spiderpig (#42), rumpdoll (#95)


881. Joanna Newsom | Divers (2015)
221.482 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 723
2017 Rank: 1012 (+131)
Under 40: 659
40 and Over: 2556
Biggest Fans: Jirin (#36), Rob (#37)


880. Eminem | The Eminem Show (2002)
221.515 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 1633
2017 Rank: 825 (-55)
Under 40: 566
40 and Over: Unranked
Biggest Fans: Arsalan (#77), jdizzle83 (#100)


879. Low | Double Negative (2018)
221.821 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: N/A
2017 Rank: N/A
Under 40: 632
40 and Over: 3046
Biggest Fans: notbrianeno (#47), Rob (#89)


878. Snoop Doggy Dogg | Doggystyle (1993)
222.393 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 542
2017 Rank: 736 (-142)
Under 40: 691
40 and Over: Unranked
Biggest Fans: Cold Butterfly (#11), Emerald (#98)


877. Justice | (2007)
222.405 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 704
2017 Rank: 1035 (+158)
Under 40: 666
40 and Over: 2342
Biggest Fans: Sweepstakes Ron (#54


876. Serge Gainsbourg | Initials B. B. (1968)
222.463 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 1725
2017 Rank: 602 (-274)
Under 40: 2276
40 and Over: 485
Biggest Fans: Romain (#26)
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Early thoughts:

971. ABBA | The Album (1977)
An "old" album where the Forum youngsters appraise it much more highly than the more "seasoned" AMFers. I wonder if it's because a large percentage of the older folks were more attuned to punk/new wave when ABBA was around as it was "reacting" to them while those who didn't hear it contemporaneously take it on its own merits? Or maybe just the MAMMA MIA effect?

964. Kacey Musgraves | Same Trailer Different Park (2013)
I ran out of a time to drop a bigger list but this almost certainly would be on a list of 1000 for me and help boost that "40 and over" number.

932. Mogwai | Come On Die Young (1999)
This also stood out to me as the album is relatively "new" (just misses last two decades) but older members have it much higher than younger.

924. Kate Bush | The Sensual World (1989)
The great equalizer? Almost equal placement for fogies and whippersnappers alike and a lot higher than the AM placing.

917. George Michael | Listen Without Prejudice Vol. 1 (1990)
Or maybe it's THIS one.
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900-876
This stretch only has 3 albums that would probably be on a top 1000 list for me.
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The reason I frequently prefer the lower halves of a list like this is because it always contains the more unusual picks. Take for example that Popol Vuh album that just drops in out of absolute nowhere without warning. I haven't heard it so I have no opinion on it, but I love how random it feels in between many albums we at least know have a lot of fans.
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Rob wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:25 pm The reason I frequently prefer the lower halves of a list like this is because it always contains the more unusual picks. Take for example that Popol Vuh album that just drops in out of absolute nowhere without warning. I haven't heard it so I have no opinion on it, but I love how random it feels in between many albums we at least know have a lot of fans.
Totally agree. Seeing Tom Zé and Mano Negra is awesome. Better than RS list so far :D

I only hope a thematic playlist about this list.
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I'm going to guess at this point that Lateralus is the highest placing album with only three votes, although I'd be tickled to see another leftfield choice pop up.
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875. Soft Cell | Non-Stop Erotic Cabaret (1981)
222.854 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 923
2017 Rank: 998 (+123)
Under 40: 2193
40 and Over: 494
Biggest Fans: Romain (#63)


874. Pixies | Come On Pilgrim EP (1987)
223.168 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 1507
2017 Rank: 1620 (+746)
Under 40: 1105
40 and Over: 768
Biggest Fans: styrofoamboots (#53)


873. Neil Young with Crazy Horse | Zuma (1975)
223.237 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 1241
2017 Rank: 982 (+109)
Under 40: 2194
40 and Over: 491
Biggest Fans: Live in Phoenix (#112)


872. Fountains of Wayne | Welcome Interstate Managers (2003)
223.620 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: 1962
2017 Rank: 1245 (+373)
Under 40: 787
40 and Over: 1286
Biggest Fans: luvulongTIM (#11), VanillaFire1000 (#65), BryanBehar (#80)


871. King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard | Nonagon Infinity (2016)
223.767 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 2655
2017 Rank: 4035 (+3164)
Under 40: 746
40 and Over: 1491
Biggest Fans: Krurze (#38), spiritualized (#80)


870. Carla Bley & Paul Haines | Escalator Over the Hill (1971)
224.445 Points | 4 Votes
AM Rank: 1264
2017 Rank: 1381 (+511)
Under 40: 1201
40 and Over: 724
Biggest Fans: Schüttelbirne (#11), Fred (#46), sonofsamiam (#53)


869. Phoebe Bridgers | Stranger in the Alps (2017)
224.707 Points | 4 Votes
AM Rank: Bubbling Under
2017 Rank: N/A
Under 40: 684
40 and Over: 1998
Biggest Fans: acroamor (#21), Rob (#22), DocBrown (#100)


868. The Beach Boys | The Beach Boys Today! (1965)
224.743 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 938
2017 Rank: 691 (-177)
Under 40: 1605
40 and Over: 578
Biggest Fans: Father2TheMan (#17)


867. Whitney Houston | Whitney Houston (1985)
224.759 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: 1638
2017 Rank: 783 (-84)
Under 40: 584
40 and Over: 4543
Biggest Fans: vivian (#8), bonnielaurel (#38)


866. CHVRCHES | Every Open Eye (2015)
224.848 Points | 4 Votes
AM Rank: 2573
2017 Rank: 696 (-170)
Under 40: 557
40 and Over: Unranked
Biggest Fans: Sweepstakes Ron (#13), votingbloc (#32)


865. Al Green | I'm Still In Love With You (1972)
225.892 Points | 14 Votes
AM Rank: 660
2017 Rank: 669 (-196)
Under 40: 1131
40 and Over: 746
Biggest Fans: hero (#79)


864. Jethro Tull | Aqualung (1971)
225.944 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 448
2017 Rank: 584 (-280)
Under 40: 1011
40 and Over: 818
Biggest Fans: panam (#64)


863. Donald Fagen | The Nightfly (1982)
226.278 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 401
2017 Rank: 773 (-90)
Under 40: 1028
40 and Over: 799
Biggest Fans: Henry (#46), prosecutorgodot (#66)


862. Le Mystère des voix bulgares | Le mystère des voix bulgares : volume 1  (1975)
226.287 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 1195
2017 Rank: 987 (+125)
Under 40: 2547
40 and Over: 448
Biggest Fans: Dan (#27)


861. Tina Turner | Private Dancer (1984)
227.240 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 866
2017 Rank: 639 (-222)
Under 40: 991
40 and Over: 831
Biggest Fans: profeta (#23)


860. Julia Holter | Ekstasis (2012)
227.354 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 2004
2017 Rank: 1239 (+379)
Under 40: 562
40 and Over: 5361
Biggest Fans: Rob (#76)


859. Faust | Faust IV (1973)
227.694 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 2157
2017 Rank: 1637 (+778)
Under 40: 680
40 and Over: 1965
Biggest Fans: Jackson (#45), Schüttelbirne (#53)


858. Norah Jones | Come Away With Me (2002)
227.945 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 1265
2017 Rank: 842 (-16)
Under 40: 620
40 and Over: 3027
Biggest Fans: bonnielaurel (#79)


857. Stereolab | Transient Random-Noise Bursts with Announcements (1993)
228.054 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 1477
2017 Rank: 1564 (+707)
Under 40: 1288
40 and Over: 660
Biggest Fans: rumpdoll (#33)


856. Ella Fitzgerald | Ella Fitzgerald Sings the Cole Porter Song Book (1956)
228.443 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 746
2017 Rank: 672 (-184)
Under 40: 1111
40 and Over: 745
Biggest Fans: bonnielaurel (#31), SL3 (#59)


855. SZA | Ctrl (2017)
228.554 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 759
2017 Rank: N/A
Under 40: 576
40 and Over: 4617
Biggest Fans: Toni (#61), Sweepstakes Ron (#82)


854. The Specials | Specials (1979)
228.716 Points | 12 Votes
AM Rank: 185
2017 Rank: 845 (-9)
Under 40: 958
40 and Over: 843
Biggest Fans: VanillaFire1000 (#147)


853. Suzanne Vega | Solitude Standing (1987)
229.432 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 2541
2017 Rank: 901 (+48)
Under 40: 1560
40 and Over: 562
Biggest Fans: Live in Phoenix (#5), bonnielaurel (#63)


852. Panda Bear | Person Pitch (2007)
229.873 Points | 11 Votes
AM Rank: 415
2017 Rank: 508 (-344)
Under 40: 687
40 and Over: 1802
Biggest Fans: Nick (#130)


851. Kylie Minogue | Fever (2001)
230.088 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 2647
2017 Rank: 1016 (+165)
Under 40: 1153
40 and Over: 1101
Biggest Fans: Moonbeam (#17), Sweepstakes Ron (#39), Emerald (#100)
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Rob wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:25 pm The reason I frequently prefer the lower halves of a list like this is because it always contains the more unusual picks. Take for example that Popol Vuh album that just drops in out of absolute nowhere without warning. I haven't heard it so I have no opinion on it, but I love how random it feels in between many albums we at least know have a lot of fans.
The last time I checked, this album is Rate Your Music's all-time favorite new age album (but '70s "new age" albums have seemed mislabeled to me, if you're expecting a placid sort of music).
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Faust IV is my first personal favorite to drop. That seems kind of low for one of the iconic krautrock albums, but I guess it beat its position from last time.

Person Pitch is one of the biggest surprises so far. I thought that album was a surefire top 500 type placement. We'll see with how MPP places if the late-00s style indie has fallen totally out of favor.
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850. Cat Power | You Are Free (2003)
230.445 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 911
2017 Rank: 1331 (+481)
Under 40: 4376
40 and Over: 383
Biggest Fans: rumpdoll (#35), Michel (#75)


849. Laura Marling | I Speak Because I Can (2010)
230.669 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: Bubbling Under
2017 Rank: 2172 (+1323)
Under 40: 628
40 and Over: 2654
Biggest Fans: Rob (#6), mileswide (#86)


848. Explosions in the Sky | The Earth Is Not a Cold Dead Place (2003)
231.203 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: Bubbling Under
2017 Rank: 814 (-34)
Under 40: 763
40 and Over: 1247
Biggest Fans: votingbloc (#13)


847. Slayer | Reign in Blood (1986)
231.219 Points | 11 Votes
AM Rank: 286
2017 Rank: 631 (-216)
Under 40: 777
40 and Over: 1181
Biggest Fans: FrankLotion (#92)


846. Carly Rae Jepsen | E·MO·TION (2015)
231.373 Points | 11 Votes
AM Rank: 1975
2017 Rank: 801 (-45)
Under 40: 572
40 and Over: 4356
Biggest Fans: Sweepstakes Ron (#20)


845. Sleigh Bells | Treats (2010)
231.582 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 1539
2017 Rank: 634 (-211)
Under 40: 554
40 and Over: 5015
Biggest Fans: Sweepstakes Ron (#36), Nassim (#88)


844. Elliott Smith | Elliott Smith (1995)
233.077 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: Bubbling Under
2017 Rank: 1270 (+426)
Under 40: 619
40 and Over: 2705
Biggest Fans: Edre Peraza (#16), Nassim (#57)


843. Kae Tempest | Let Them Eat Chaos (2016)
233.390 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 2283
2017 Rank: 1999 (+1156)
Under 40: 846
40 and Over: 973
Biggest Fans: rumpdoll (#34), Rob (#35)


842. Camarón | La leyenda del tiempo  (1979)
234.302 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: 1940
2017 Rank: 933 (+91)
Under 40: 1067
40 and Over: 739
Biggest Fans: panam (#28), Honorio (#37)


841. Laurie Anderson | Big Science (1982)
234.307 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 789
2017 Rank: 1435 (+594)
Under 40: 1033
40 and Over: 751
Biggest Fans: antonius (#58)


840. The Beatles | Beatles for Sale (1964)
236.247 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 872
2017 Rank: 650 (-190)
Under 40: 1299
40 and Over: 607
Biggest Fans: SL3 (#24)


839. Stereolab | Mars Audiac Quintet (1994)
237.592 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: Bubbling Under
2017 Rank: 1514 (+675)
Under 40: 1487
40 and Over: 548
Biggest Fans: spiritualized (#33), CupOfDreams (#78), Jackson (#99)


838. Lykke Li | Wounded Rhymes (2011)
238.195 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 1674
2017 Rank: 1438 (+600)
Under 40: 1215
40 and Over: 639
Biggest Fans: Dan (#16)


837. Todd Terje | It's Album Time (2014)
238.303 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 1224
2017 Rank: 832 (-5)
Under 40: 766
40 and Over: 1128
Biggest Fans: schaefer.tk (#33), Sweepstakes Ron (#89)


836. Julee Cruise | Floating Into the Night (1989)
238.699 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 2994
2017 Rank: 963 (+127)
Under 40: 697
40 and Over: 1467
Biggest Fans: Gillingham (#88)


835. The Pretty Things | S.F. Sorrow (1968)
239.948 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 987
2017 Rank: 667 (-168)
Under 40: 1149
40 and Over: 662
Biggest Fans: Zombeels (#23), Bang Jan (#99)


834. The Roots | undun (2011)
240.195 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: Bubbling Under
2017 Rank: 795 (-39)
Under 40: 749
40 and Over: 1153
Biggest Fans: FrankLotion (#85)


833. First Aid Kit | The Lion's Roar (2012)
240.663 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 2450
2017 Rank: 1275 (+442)
Under 40: 647
40 and Over: 1933
Biggest Fans: mileswide (#35), bonnielaurel (#91)


832. Fugees | The Score (1996)
240.805 Points | 11 Votes
AM Rank: 308
2017 Rank: 572 (-260)
Under 40: 639
40 and Over: 2018
Biggest Fans: hero (#85)


831. Sufjan Stevens | Michigan (2003)
241.072 Points | 13 Votes
AM Rank: 1303
2017 Rank: 648 (-183)
Under 40: 768
40 and Over: 1070
Biggest Fans: VanillaFire1000 (#151)


830. Sinéad O'Connor | I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got (1990)
241.396 Points | 11 Votes
AM Rank: 483
2017 Rank: 603 (-227)
Under 40: 963
40 and Over: 764
Biggest Fans: bonnielaurel (#77)


829. Big Thief | U.F.O.F. (2019)
241.504 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: N/A
2017 Rank: N/A
Under 40: 570
40 and Over: 3372
Biggest Fans: notbrianeno (#43)


828. Steely Dan | Countdown to Ecstasy (1973)
241.900 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: 625
2017 Rank: 790 (-38)
Under 40: 3749
40 and Over: 374
Biggest Fans: Henry (#18), Fred (#90), Harold (#96)


827. Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds | Push the Sky Away (2013)
242.119 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 708
2017 Rank: 964 (+137)
Under 40: 1532
40 and Over: 522
Biggest Fans: rumpdoll (#13), Holden (#98)


826. Johnny Cash | American III: Solitary Man (2000)
242.423 Points | 12 Votes
AM Rank: 910
2017 Rank: 1214 (+388)
Under 40: 1845
40 and Over: 469
Biggest Fans: Listyguy (#152)
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I was surprised to see Countdown to Ecstasy so low! That’s my favorite Steely Dan by far!
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I thought Floating Into the Night, undun, and UFOF were bigger favorites around here. Nice to see a few Stereolab albums in the T1000 that missed in the last poll.
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And there goes the first of my favorites! I need to convert more people to the good devil music of the world :music-rockon:

Also sad to see undun out so soon, glad to see it’s a forum favorite though!
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825. The Flying Burrito Brothers | The Gilded Palace of Sin (1969)
242.969 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 221
2017 Rank: 1007 (+182)
Under 40: 769
40 and Over: 1045
Biggest Fans: mileswide (#21), carlos74 (#88)


824. Bruce Springsteen | Tunnel of Love (1987)
243.148 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 876
2017 Rank: 930 (+106)
Under 40: 1398
40 and Over: 545
Biggest Fans: Live in Phoenix (#39), Wezzo (#95)


823. dEUS | In a Bar, Under the Sea (1996)
243.598 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: Bubbling Under
2017 Rank: 1122 (+299)
Under 40: 2464
40 and Over: 413
Biggest Fans: spiritualized (#12), spiderpig (#20)


822. Al Green | Let's Stay Together (1972)
243.907 Points | 13 Votes
AM Rank: 635
2017 Rank: 823 (+1)
Under 40: 759
40 and Over: 1059
Biggest Fans: Gillingham (#99)


821. Jon Hopkins | Immunity (2013)
244.791 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 1804
2017 Rank: 923 (+102
Under 40: 579
40 and Over: 2970
Biggest Fans: Krurze (#14), Gillingham (#48)


820. Santana | Santana (1969)
245.032 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 1151
2017 Rank: 802 (-18)
Under 40: 595
40 and Over: 2474
Biggest Fans: prosecutorgodot (#41), panam (#77)


819. Richard & Linda Thompson | I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight (1974)
245.097 Points | 7 Votes
AM Rank: 435
2017 Rank: 794 (-25)
Under 40: 781
40 and Over: 982
Biggest Fans: VanillaFire1000 (#48), Schüttelbirne (#56), Harold (#92)


818. Billie Holiday | Lady in Satin (1958)
245.115 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 703
2017 Rank: 649 (-169)
Under 40: 811
40 and Over: 913
Biggest Fans: Schüttelbirne (#57)


817. Lynyrd Skynyrd | (pronounced 'lĕh-'nérd 'skin-'nérd) (1973)
245.393 Points | 12 Votes
AM Rank: 578
2017 Rank: 482 (-335)
Under 40: 900
40 and Over: 808
Biggest Fans: acroamor (#129)


816. Brian Eno & David Byrne | My Life in the Bush of Ghosts (1981)
245.888 Points | 12 Votes
AM Rank: 322
2017 Rank: 764 (-52)
Under 40: 995
40 and Over: 732
Biggest Fans: SJner (#160)


815. Kamasi Washington | The Epic (2015)
246.008 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 997
2017 Rank: 1078 (+263)
Under 40: 1692
40 and Over: 478
Biggest Fans: nicolas (#62)


814. Suede | Suede (1993)
247.073 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 510
2017 Rank: 947 (+133)
Under 40: 1964
40 and Over: 434
Biggest Fans: Akhenaten (#29), Rocky Raccoon (#99)


813. Arctic Monkeys | Favourite Worst Nightmare (2007)
247.757 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 1201
2017 Rank: 867 (+54)
Under 40: 889
40 and Over: 801
Biggest Fans: DaveC (#38), Arsalan (#62)


812. Eels | Electro-Shock Blues (1998)
247.961 Points | 5 Votes
AM Rank: 1752
2017 Rank: 504 (-308)
Under 40: 1536
40 and Over: 497
Biggest Fans: Zombeels (#35), PlasticRam (#41)


811. Drake | Take Care (2011)
248.609 Points | 6 Votes
AM Rank: 925
2017 Rank: 1242 (+431)
Under 40: 504
40 and Over: Unranked
Biggest Fans: Cold Butterfly (#23), notbrianeno (#39), vivian (#43)


810. The Soft Boys | Underwater Moonlight (1980)
248.886 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 1033
2017 Rank: 740 (-70)
Under 40: 823
40 and Over: 865
Biggest Fans: Harold (#30)


809. Eurythmics | Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This...) (1983)
249.406 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 1147
2017 Rank: 788 (-21)
Under 40: 1631
40 and Over: 476
Biggest Fans: Moonbeam (#2), notbrianeno (#88)


808. Talk Talk | The Colour of Spring (1986)
250.352 Points | 12 Votes
AM Rank: 948
2017 Rank: 1237 (+429)
Under 40: 998
40 and Over: 703
Biggest Fans: rumpdoll (#60)


807. Anaïs Mitchell | Hadestown (2010)
250.953 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: Unranked
2017 Rank: 674 (-133)
Under 40: 675
40 and Over: 1392
Biggest Fans: Schüttelbirne (#33), whuntva (#78)


806. The Avalanches | Wildflower (2016)
251.683 Points | 11 Votes
AM Rank: 2199
2017 Rank: 648 (-148)
Under 40: 533
40 and Over: 3801
Biggest Fans: acroamor (#83)


805. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds | The Good Son (1990)
251.735 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: 1185
2017 Rank: 746 (-59)
Under 40: 803
40 and Over: 867
Biggest Fans: Rob (#111)


804. The Byrds | The Notorious Byrd Brothers (1968)
252.208 Points | 9 Votes
AM Rank: 294
2017 Rank: 734 (-70)
Under 40: 1552
40 and Over: 480
Biggest Fans: nicolas (#69)


803. Sheena Ringo | 加爾基 精液 栗ノ花 (Kalk Samen Kuri no Hana) (2003)
252.335 Points | 10 Votes
AM Rank: Unranked
2017 Rank: 971 (+168)
Under 40: 829
40 and Over: 823
Biggest Fans: sonofsamiam (#22)


802. Danny Brown | Atrocity Exhibition (2016)
252.400 Points | 12 Votes
AM Rank: 1056
2017 Rank: 1038 (+236)
Under 40: 718
40 and Over: 1091
Biggest Fans: Listyguy (#145)


801. Teenage Fanclub | Bandwagonesque (1991)
252.464 Points | 8 Votes
AM Rank: 586
2017 Rank: 1566 (+765)
Under 40: 1128
40 and Over: 603
Biggest Fans: carlos74 (#97)
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