2014 All Time Albums Poll betting game

[Rocky Raccoon]

THE BETTING IS NOW CLOSED. NO MORE BETS WILL BE ACCEPTED. ALSO, ANY EDITS TO PREVIOUS BETS WILL DISQUALIFY BET SHEET.

Here's how it works. Everyone gets 100 AM dollars ($100), and can use them to place bets on the following 15 propositions. Rules: Max bet is $20, Min bet is $5, and you must bet on at least 10 of the props. All over/under bets are even odds, otherwise odds are in parenthesis. Betting stays open until the unveiling of the poll begins. Sorry DocBrown, you probably shouldn't bet. Enjoy.

1) Over/under Beatles albums in the top 20: 4.5
WINNER: Under

2) Number of hip-hop/rap albums in top 100: 2 or less (2-1), 3-4 (even), 5 or more (2-1)
WINNER: 2 or less (2-1)

3) Highest placing Joanna Newsome album: Ys (1-2), The Mild-Eyed Mender (2-1), Have One on Me (2-1)
WINNER: Ys (1-2)

4) Album that finishes No. 2 in poll: Revolver (even), Pet Sounds (even), The Velvet Underground and Nico (even), other (3-1)
WINNER: other (3-1)

5) Over/under Radiohead albums in the top 50: 3.5
WINNER: Under

6) Decade with most top 50 albums: '90s (even), '00s (even)
WINNER: '90s (6-5)

7) Over/under Placement of top two Prince albums total: 75
WINNER: Push

8) Highest placing Van Morrison album: Moondance (even), Astral Weeks (even), other (12-1)
WINNER: Astral Weeks (even)

9) Most albums in the top 500: Rolling Stones (even), Led Zeppelin (even), PJ Harvey (2-1)
WINNER: Rolling Stones

10) Over/under Bob Dylan albums in the top 20: 2.5
WINNER: Under

11) Highest placing album: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots (even), I Am a Bird Now (even)
WINNER: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots (even)

12) Highest placement for album by solo female artist: Top 25 (3-1), 25-50 (even), 50-75 (even), 75 or lower (3-1)
WINNER: 50-75

13) Over/under Placement of top two R.E.M. albums total: 70
WINNER: Under (66)

14) Over/under solo Beatles albums in top 500: 4.5
WINNER: Under

15) Highest placing Joy Division album: Unknown Pleasures (even), Closer (even)
WINNER: Closer (even)

[PlasticRam]

1) Over/under Beatles albums in the top 20: under 4.5 10$

3) Highest placing Joanna Newsome album: Ys (1-2) 5$

4) Album that finishes No. 2 in poll: other (3-1) 20$

7) Over/under Placement of top two Prince albums total: over 75 20$

8) Highest placing Van Morrison album: Astral Weeks (even) 20$

11) Highest placing album: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots (even) 5$

12) Highest placement for album by solo female artist: 75 or lower (3-1) 5$

13) Over/under Placement of top two R.E.M. albums total: over 70 5$

14) Over/under solo Beatles albums in top 500: over 4.5 5$

15) Highest placing Joy Division album: Closer (even) 5$

Did I understand this game correctly? Also for ex. when you ask Prince's top two's total placement, if they for ex. place 35th and 45th the total placement would be 80? I'm not sure if I understand that correctly.

[whuntva]

I don't bet, but I will predict for no money.

Over

Ys

other

over

moondance

Rolling Stones

Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots

Top 25 (there's ONE that I think could do it)

Under 70

Over

Closer

[DaveC]

This is a really fun idea Rocky.

1) Over/under Beatles albums in the top 20: UNDER 4.5 $5

3) Highest placing Joanna Newsome album: Have One on Me (2-1) $10

4) Album that finishes No. 2 in poll: other (3-1) $20

5) Over/under Radiohead albums in the top 50: UNDER 3.5 $5

9) Most albums in the top 500: Rolling Stones (even) $10

10) Over/under Bob Dylan albums in the top 20: UNDER 2.5 $10

11) Highest placing album: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots (even) $5

12) Highest placement for album by solo female artist: Top 25 (3-1) $20

14) Over/under solo Beatles albums in top 500: UNDER 4.5 $5

15) Highest placing Joy Division album: Closer (even) $10

[DocBrown]

Well, Thanks, Rocky. Now I can procrastinate for a few more hours....

[Nassim]

1) Over/under Beatles albums in the top 20: 4.5
Over : 0$
2) Number of hip-hop/rap albums in top 100: 2 or less (2-1), 3-4 (even), 5 or more (2-1)
3-4 : 5$ (just in case, is Endtroducing hip-hop?)

3) Highest placing Joanna Newsome album: Ys (1-2), The Mild-Eyed Mender (2-1), Have One on Me (2-1)
Have One on Me : 10$

4) Album that finishes No. 2 in poll: Revolver (even), Pet Sounds (even), The Velvet Underground and Nico (even), other (3-1)
VU & Nico : 5$
5) Over/under Radiohead albums in the top 50: 3.5
Under : 20$ ( seems to be the safest bet)

6) Decade with most top 50 albums: '90s (even), '00s (even)
90s : 10$
7) Over/under Placement of top two Prince albums total: 75
Over : 5$
8) Highest placing Van Morrison album: Moondance (even), Astral Weeks (even), other (12-1)
Pass
9) Most albums in the top 500: Rolling Stones (even), Led Zeppelin (even), PJ Harvey (2-1)
Rolling Stones : 10$

10) Over/under Bob Dylan albums in the top 20: 2.5
Over : 5$

11) Highest placing album: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots (even), I Am a Bird Now (even)
Yoshimi : 10$

12) Highest placement for album by solo female artist: Top 25 (3-1), 25-50 (even), 50-75 (even), 75 or lower (3-1)
50-75 : 5$

13) Over/under Placement of top two R.E.M. albums total: 70
Under : 5$
14) Over/under solo Beatles albums in top 500: 4.5
I'll bet on only Ram, All Things Must Pass and 2 Lennons, so under : 5$
15) Highest placing Joy Division album: Unknown Pleasures (even), Closer (even)
Unknown Pleasures : 5$

[Rocky Raccoon]

Did I understand this game correctly? Also for ex. when you ask Prince's top two's total placement, if they for ex. place 35th and 45th the total placement would be 80? I'm not sure if I understand that correctly.

Yep, that's correct.

[Listyguy]

1. $7 on over
2. $7 on 2 or less (Assuming we're not considering Portishead rap. If so, I'll change this to 3-4)
3. $8 on Ys.
4. $8 on Pet Sounds
5. $6 on over
6. $5 on 90s
7. $6 on over
8. $9 on Astral Weeks
9. $5 on The Rolling Stones
10. $8 on Over
11. $5 on Yoshimi
12. $5 on 25-50
13. $8 on under
14. $7 on over
15. $6 on Closer

[Poliuks]

1) Over/under Beatles albums in the top 20: 4.5 - under - 15$
4) Album that finishes No. 2 in poll: Revolver (even), Pet Sounds (even), The Velvet Underground and Nico (even), other (3-1) - Revolve -r 5$
5) Over/under Radiohead albums in the top 50: 3.5 - under - 20$
6) Decade with most top 50 albums: '90s (even), '00s (even) - '00s - 5$
7) Over/under Placement of top two Prince albums total: 75 - under - 10$
8) Highest placing Van Morrison album: Moondance (even), Astral Weeks (even), other (12-1) - Moondance - 5$
9) Most albums in the top 500: Rolling Stones (even), Led Zeppelin (even), PJ Harvey (2-1) - Led Zeppelin - 5$
11) Highest placing album: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots (even), I Am a Bird Now (even) - Yoshimi - 20$
13) Over/under Placement of top two R.E.M. albums total: 70 - over - 10$
15) Highest placing Joy Division album: Unknown Pleasures (even), Closer (even) - Unknown Pleasures - 5$

[Rocky Raccoon]

1) Over/under Beatles albums in the top 20: 4.5 - $5 under

2) Number of hip-hop/rap albums in top 100: 2 or less (2-1), 3-4 (even), 5 or more (2-1) - $10 3-4

5) Over/under Radiohead albums in the top 50: 3.5 $10 over

6) Decade with most top 50 albums: '90s (even), '00s (even) - $10 '90s

7) Over/under Placement of top two Prince albums total: 75 - $10 under

8) Highest placing Van Morrison album: Moondance (even), Astral Weeks (even), other (12-1) - $10 Moondance

9) Most albums in the top 500: Rolling Stones (even), Led Zeppelin (even), PJ Harvey (2-1) - $5 Led Zeppelin

10) Over/under Bob Dylan albums in the top 20: 2.5 - $15 under

11) Highest placing album: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots (even), I Am a Bird Now (even) - $10 Yoshimi

15) Highest placing Joy Division album: Unknown Pleasures (even), Closer (even) - $15 Closer

[Rocky Raccoon]

Also, for clarification, I'm not considering Portishead or DJ Shadow as hip-hop/rap.

[Zorg]

1) Over/under Beatles albums in the top 20: 4.5

under $15

2) Number of hip-hop/rap albums in top 100: 2 or less (2-1), 3-4 (even), 5 or more (2-1)

3) Highest placing Joanna Newsome album: Ys (1-2), The Mild-Eyed Mender (2-1), Have One on Me (2-1)

Ys (1-2) $15

4) Album that finishes No. 2 in poll: Revolver (even), Pet Sounds (even), The Velvet Underground and Nico (even), other (3-1)

5) Over/under Radiohead albums in the top 50: 3.5

Over $

6) Decade with most top 50 albums: '90s (even), '00s (even)

7) Over/under Placement of top two Prince albums total: 75

Over $15

8) Highest placing Van Morrison album: Moondance (even), Astral Weeks (even), other (12-1)

9) Most albums in the top 500: Rolling Stones (even), Led Zeppelin (even), PJ Harvey (2-1)

10) Over/under Bob Dylan albums in the top 20: 2.5

Under $15

11) Highest placing album: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots (even), I Am a Bird Now (even)

Yoshimi $5

12) Highest placement for album by solo female artist: Top 25 (3-1), 25-50 (even), 50-75 (even), 75 or lower (3-1)

13) Over/under Placement of top two R.E.M. albums total: 70

14) Over/under solo Beatles albums in top 500: 4.5

15) Highest placing Joy Division album: Unknown Pleasures (even), Closer (even)

Closer $5


will add more as I go along!

[GucciLittlePiggy]

1) Over/under Beatles albums in the top 20: 4.5
UNDER - $10

2) Number of hip-hop/rap albums in top 100: 2 or less (2-1), 3-4 (even), 5 or more (2-1)
3-4 (even) - $5

3) Highest placing Joanna Newsome album: Ys (1-2), The Mild-Eyed Mender (2-1), Have One on Me (2-1)
Ys (1-2) - $12

5) Over/under Radiohead albums in the top 50: 3.5
OVER - $5

6) Decade with most top 50 albums: '90s (even), '00s (even)
'00s (even) - $5

7) Over/under Placement of top two Prince albums total: 75
UNDER - $5

8) Highest placing Van Morrison album: Moondance (even), Astral Weeks (even), other (12-1)
Astral Weeks (even) - $20

9) Most albums in the top 500: Rolling Stones (even), Led Zeppelin (even), PJ Harvey (2-1)
Rolling Stones (even) - $8

10) Over/under Bob Dylan albums in the top 20: 2.5
UNDER - $5

11) Highest placing album: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots (even), I Am a Bird Now (even)
Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots (even) - $9

13) Over/under Placement of top two R.E.M. albums total: 70
UNDER - $6

15) Highest placing Joy Division album: Unknown Pleasures (even), Closer (even)
Closer (even) - $10

[Live in Phoenix]

1) Over/under Beatles albums in the top 20: Under - $5

2) Number of hip-hop/rap albums in top 100: 3-4 - $5

5) Over/under Radiohead albums in the top 50: over - $5

8) Highest placing Van Morrison album: Astral Weeks - $20

9) Most albums in the top 500: Rolling Stones - $20

10) Over/under Bob Dylan albums in the top 20: under - $5

11) Highest placing album: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots - $5

12) Highest placement for album by solo female artist: 25-50 - $5

14) Over/under solo Beatles albums in top 500: under - $20

15) Highest placing Joy Division album: Closer - $10

[Otisredding]

1) Over/under Beatles albums in the top 20: 4.5
under (15)

2) Number of hip-hop/rap albums in top 100: 2 or less (2-1), 3-4 (even), 5 or more (2-1)
5 or more (5)

3) Highest placing Joanna Newsome album: Ys (1-2), The Mild-Eyed Mender (2-1), Have One on Me (2-1)
Ys (5)

7) Over/under Placement of top two Prince albums total: 75
Over (15)

8) Highest placing Van Morrison album: Moondance (even), Astral Weeks (even), other (12-1)
Astral Weeks (5)

9) Most albums in the top 500: Rolling Stones (even), Led Zeppelin (even), PJ Harvey (2-1)
Rolling Stones (5)

11) Highest placing album: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots (even), I Am a Bird Now (even)
Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots (15)

13) Over/under Placement of top two R.E.M. albums total: 70
Over (15)

14) Over/under solo Beatles albums in top 500: 4.5
Under (5)

15) Highest placing Joy Division album: Unknown Pleasures (even), Closer (even)
Closer (15)

[Romain]

1) Over/under Beatles albums in the top 20: 4.5
UNDER 5$
2) Number of hip-hop/rap albums in top 100: 2 or less (2-1), 3-4 (even), 5 or more (2-1)
5 or more 10$
4) Album that finishes No. 2 in poll: Revolver (even), Pet Sounds (even), The Velvet Underground and Nico (even), other (3-1)
OTHER 20$
5) Over/under Radiohead albums in the top 50: 3.5
OVER 5$
6) Decade with most top 50 albums: '90s (even), '00s (even)
'00s 5$
7) Over/under Placement of top two Prince albums total: 75
UNDER 10$
9) Most albums in the top 500: Rolling Stones (even), Led Zeppelin (even), PJ Harvey (2-1)
PJ Harvey 20$
11) Highest placing album: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots (even), I Am a Bird Now (even)
Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots (even) 5$
12) Highest placement for album by solo female artist: Top 25 (3-1), 25-50 (even), 50-75 (even), 75 or lower (3-1)
25-50 5$
13) Over/under Placement of top two R.E.M. albums total: 70
UNDER 5$
14) Over/under solo Beatles albums in top 500: 4.5
OVER 5$
15) Highest placing Joy Division album: Unknown Pleasures (even), Closer (even)[/quote]
Unknown Pleasures 5$

3) Highest placing Joanna Newsome album: Ys (1-2), The Mild-Eyed Mender (2-1), Have One on Me (2-1)
Ys
8) Highest placing Van Morrison album: Moondance (even), Astral Weeks (even), other (12-1)
ASTRAL WEEKS
10) Over/under Bob Dylan albums in the top 20: 2.5
OVER

[Daniel]

1) Over ($5)
2) 3-4 ($5)
3) Ys ($10)
4) Pet Sounds ($10)
5) Over ($10)
6) '00s ($5)
7) Over ($5)
8) Moondance ($5)
9) Rolling Stones ($5)
10) Under ($10)
11) Yoshimi ($5)
12) 25-50 ($10)
13) Under ($5)
14) Under ($5)
15) Unknown Pleasures ($5)

[Rocky Raccoon]

In case you were wondering, here's which bets would have won in the LAST (2011) poll.

1) Over/under Beatles albums in the top 20: 4.5 (OVER: 5)

2) Number of hip-hop/rap albums in top 100: 2 or less (2-1), 3-4 (even), 5 or more (2-1) (2 OR LESS)

3) Highest placing Joanna Newsome album: Ys (1-2), The Mild-Eyed Mender (2-1), Have One on Me (2-1) (YS)

4) Album that finishes No. 2 in poll: Revolver (even), Pet Sounds (even), The Velvet Underground and Nico (even), other (3-1) (THE VELVET UNDERGROUND AND NICO)

5) Over/under Radiohead albums in the top 50: 3.5 (OVER: 4)

6) Decade with most top 50 albums: '90s (even), '00s (even) (PUSH: 5 EACH)

7) Over/under Placement of top two Prince albums total: 75 (OVER: 77)

8) Highest placing Van Morrison album: Moondance (even), Astral Weeks (even), other (12-1) (MOONDANCE)

9) Most albums in the top 500: Rolling Stones (even), Led Zeppelin (even), PJ Harvey (2-1) (LED ZEPPELIN)

10) Over/under Bob Dylan albums in the top 20: 2.5 (OVER: 3)

11) Highest placing album: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots (even), I Am a Bird Now (even) (I AM A BIRD NOW)

12) Highest placement for album by solo female artist: Top 25 (3-1), 25-50 (even), 50-75 (even), 75 or lower (3-1) (50-75: No. 51)

13) Over/under Placement of top two R.E.M. albums total: 70 (PUSH: 70)

14) Over/under solo Beatles albums in top 500: 4.5 (OVER: 5)

15) Highest placing Joy Division album: Unknown Pleasures (even), Closer (even) (UNKNOWN PLEASURES)

[Listyguy]

For those keeping track at home, "Have One On Me" had already appeared. Additionally, we've seen one Stones album so far.

[Otisredding]

Final Solution:

3) Highest placing Joanna Newsom album: Ys (1-2), The Mild-Eyed Mender (2-1), Have One on Me (2-1)
Ys

[Listyguy]

Also of note, it's looking more and more likely that we will not see two McCartney albums in top 500, which would make 14 under.

[Live in Phoenix]

I think the #3 rap album has turned out to be #117 Frank Ocean

[Live in Phoenix]

11) Highest placing album: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots (even), I Am a Bird Now (even)

#115 (tie)
The Flaming Lips
Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots

#265
Antony and The Johnsons
I Am a Bird Now

[Listyguy]

I think the #3 rap album has turned out to be #117 Frank Ocean

If DJ Shadow isn't considered rap, I don't think Frank Ocean should be.

[Rocky Raccoon]

I'm updating the winners of each bet in the first post of this thread as the poll unfolds.

[Otisredding]

7) Over/under Placement of top two Prince albums total: 75

WINNER: 75

[Otisredding]

12) Highest placement for album by solo female artist: Top 25 (3-1), 25-50 (even), 50-75 (even), 75 or lower (3-1)

WINNER: 50-75 (even) Björk - Post Closer #71

[Otisredding]

10) Over/under Bob Dylan albums in the top 20: 2.5

WINNER: Under

[Otisredding]

13) Over/under Placement of top two R.E.M. albums total: 70

WINNER: Under (46 + 19 or less)

[Otisredding]

9) Most albums in the top 500: Rolling Stones (even), Led Zeppelin (even), PJ Harvey (2-1)

WINNER: Rolling Stones (even)

[Otisredding]

6) Decade with most top 50 albums: '90s (even), '00s (even)

WINNER: '90s (even)

[Rocky Raccoon]

With one prop still on the board, here are the results of those who are done. (Winning bets-Losing bets-Push)

Live in Phoenix +$70 (7-3-0)
GucciLittlePiggy +$59 (8-3-1)
Otisredding +$42.50 (7-2-1)
Listyguy +$30 (8-5-1)
Rocky Raccoon +$20 (5-4-1)
Daniel -$10 (6-7-1)

[DocBrown]

With one prop still on the board, here are the results of those who are done. (Winning bets-Losing bets-Push)

Live in Phoenix +$70 (7-3-0)
GucciLittlePiggy +$59 (8-3-1)
Otisredding +$42.50 (7-2-1)
Listyguy +$30 (8-5-1)
Rocky Raccoon +$20 (5-4-1)
Daniel -$10 (6-7-1)

Good take for the house.

[DaveC]

YEESSSS.

Still not quite good enough to beat the wise $ allocation of LIveinPhoenix.

[Rocky Raccoon]

Final results. There were a couple of adjustments from the above results because I didn't notice two players had bet on the 2nd place prop. The big payoff bet was "other (3-1)" for the album that finished second. If you had that bet, you probably did well.

PlasticRam +$87.50 (6-3-1)
DaveC +$80 (8-2-0)
Live in Phoenix +$70 (7-3-0)
GucciLittlePiggy +$59 (8-3-1)
Otisredding +$42.50 (7-2-1)
Nassim +$35 (7-5-1)
Listyguy +$22 (8-6-1)
Rocky Raccoon +$20 (5-4-1)
Romain +$20 (4-7-1)
Poliuks +$20 (3-6-1)
Daniel -$20 (6-8-1)

[Live in Phoenix]

Slightly off-topic, but Radiohead is now my least favorite band ever

Congratulations to PlasticRam and the other 3-1 gamblers!

[PlasticRam]

Thanks Live in Phoenix! High variance even at the risk of losing EV paid off this time

Edit: And thanks to Rocky Raccoon for organizing this game! I hope this becomes an annual thing cos it really was fun figuring out the bets.

[whuntva]

I shoulda bet!

I would have won big money with the other!

[DaveC]

Well played PlasticRam. Better work on my mental arithmetic...