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Overlooked Songs 4 Round 1 Week 1 (need tiebreaker)

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Here is the bracket (you can make predictions until the end of Sunday, but I am not sure what time zone the site uses so get it in sooner rather than later if you want to participate):
https://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=475312

Deadline to vote is Saturday, December 4 at 8 am Central Time (-6 GMT)

Anyone can vote as long as they have listened to both songs in a match

The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds
vs.
Grizzly Bear - While You Wait for the Others

Squeeze - Up the Junction
vs.
Cut Copy - Hearts on Fire

Bob Dylan - Mississippi
vs.
Kanye West - New Slaves

The Cranberries - Zombie
vs.
T. Rex - Telegram Sam

Eels - Novocaine for the Soul
vs.
John Prine - Sam Stone

Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand
vs.
Four Tops - Bernadette

Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy
vs.
Bachman-Turner Overdrive - Takin' Care of Business

Estelle ft. Kanye West - American Boy
vs.
Angel Olsen - All Mirrors

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Stray thoughts on this week:
Nothing says overlooked like two major hits featuring Kanye West! (/s, I figure this section is more about people airing their grievances about their favorites somehow not being in the top 1000)

Two very close matches among my favorites (the top 7 are all in my current top 1000). I would say 'poor Grizzly Bear,' but I'm fairly confident it wins here.

And, of course, I'm voting against my own nomination here (...and in a few other places). I tried to nominate a song I felt some other people might love that they hadn't thought about in a while, but it managed to face one of the best songs by one of my favorite artists (perhaps favorite - Nick Cave might have done enough these past several years to overtake LCD Soundsystem). I guess that's the real test of my theory - if "Bernadette" wins even without my support, then it was a good nomination for this game. If not, well, at least I tried.

"Mississippi" and "Takin' Care of Business" were the only two songs I truly needed to revisit this week. For whatever reason, "Mississippi" slips out of my memory the moment it ends. I like it when I'm actively listening, but it just can't stick with me. "Takin' Care of Business," meanwhile, is the exact form of classic rock I can't bring myself to care about in any capacity.

A few songs changed places compared to my annually updated list. I bumped "Telegram Sam" up two spots and "Mississippi" down two (my opinion on "Sam Stone" remained the same). I also bumped "All Mirrors" up two places - unfortunately, that means little when it's facing off against my second favorite this week.


1. The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds
vs.
4. Grizzly Bear - While You Wait for the Others

12. Squeeze - Up the Junction
vs.
3. Cut Copy - Hearts on Fire

15. Bob Dylan - Mississippi
vs.
10. Kanye West - New Slaves

9. The Cranberries - Zombie
vs.
13. T. Rex - Telegram Sam

7. Eels - Novocaine for the Soul
vs.
14. John Prine - Sam Stone

5. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand
vs.
6. Four Tops - Bernadette

11. Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy
vs.
16. Bachman-Turner Overdrive - Takin' Care of Business

2. Estelle ft. Kanye West - American Boy
vs.
8. Angel Olsen - All Mirrors
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16. The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds
9.Grizzly Bear - While You Wait For the Others

7. Squeeze - Up The Junction
13. Cut Copy - Hearts On Fire

10. Bob Dylan - Mississippi
12. Kayne West - New Slaves

6. Cranberries - Zombie
1. T. Rex - Telegram Sam

8. Eels - Novacaine For The Soul
11. John Prine - Sam Stone

2. Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand
3. Four Tops - Bernadette

5. Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy
14. Bachman- Turner Overdrive - Takin' Care of Business

15. Estelle & Kayne West - American Boy
4. Angel Olsen - All Mirrors

Thoughts on this group.

1) About half of these songs make my top 10K. The top 10 songs get a thumbs up from me.

2) It really sucks when two of your favorites match up in Rd 1. "Bernadette" deserved better!

3) Back in the day I found "Little Fluffy Clouds" to be incredibly annoying. After not hearing it for decades, that has not changed.

4) As a kid I loved "Takin' Care of Business", but today it doesn't even earn nostalgia points. At least it's not Foreigner or Ted Nugent.

5) The 10s was a great decade for female artists, and "All Mirrors" is just one fine example.

6) I really don't get the love for Kayne. And I've tried because I feel like I should get it. But other than a couple of songs I just don't.
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Thanks, BleuPanda! Happy to see this game back again...

The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds 5
vs.
Grizzly Bear - While You Wait for the Others 6

Squeeze - Up the Junction 6
vs.
Cut Copy - Hearts on Fire 8

Bob Dylan - Mississippi 6
vs.
Kanye West - New Slaves 7

The Cranberries - Zombie 7
vs.
T. Rex - Telegram Sam 5

Eels - Novocaine for the Soul 5
vs.
John Prine - Sam Stone 8

Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand 8
vs.
Four Tops - Bernadette 7

Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy 9
vs.
Bachman-Turner Overdrive - Takin' Care of Business 6

Estelle & Kayne West - American Boy 6
vs.
Angel Olsen - All Mirrors 7
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The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds

Squeeze - Up the Junction

Kanye West - New Slaves

T. Rex - Telegram Sam

Eels - Novocaine for the Soul

Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand

Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy

Estelle ft. Kanye West - American Boy
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Grizzly Bear - While You Wait for the Others (8465 fave of all time) wins over
The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds (3.6 out of 10 - disappointing)

Cut Copy - Hearts on Fire (3659 fave of all time) wins over
Squeeze - Up the Junction (7100 fave of all time)

Kanye West - New Slaves (4 out of 10 - tolerable) barely wins over
Bob Dylan - Mississippi (4 out of 10 - tolerable)

The Cranberries - Zombie (2829) wins over
T. Rex - Telegram Sam (BU)

Eels - Novocaine for the Soul (BU) wins over
John Prine - Sam Stone (4.4 out of 10 - not quite okay)

Four Tops - Bernadette (3687) wins over
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand (4 out of 10 - tolerable)

Bachman-Turner Overdrive - Takin' Care of Business (1078) - [long live classic rock :-) ] wins over
Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy (BU)

Estelle ft. Kanye West - American Boy (6128) wins over
Angel Olsen - All Mirrors (9849)
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14 | The Orb | Little Fluffy Clouds vs. 13 | Grizzly Bear | While You Wait for the Others
10 | Squeeze | Up the Junction vs. 12 | Cut Copy | Hearts on Fire
1 | Bob Dylan | Mississippi vs. 15 | Kanye West | New Slaves
3 | The Cranberries | Zombie vs. 7 | T. Rex | Telegram Sam
6 | Eels | Novocaine for the Soul vs. 4 | John Prine | Sam Stone
2 | Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds | Red Right Hand vs. 11 | Four Tops | Bernadette
9 | Bronski Beat | Smalltown Boy vs. 16 | Bachman-Turner Overdrive | Takin' Care of Business
5 | Estelle ft. Kanye West | American Boy vs. 8 | Angel Olsen | All Mirrors

"Mississippi" is certainly overlooked considering it's by far the best Dylan song. I recently listened to Yeezus the first time and was surprised to hear Omega on "New Slaves". I have to say that I dislike the way he is using the sample of this far superior song. (Also how many people have probably never even heard the original :( )
"All Mirrors" is definitely the best song on the album because it actually sounds relatively good. Olsen should really get someone different to mix her albums...
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The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds

Squeeze - Up the Junction

Bob Dylan - Mississippi

The Cranberries - Zombie

Eels - Novocaine for the Soul

Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand

Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy

Angel Olsen - All Mirrors
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The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds
beats
Grizzly Bear - While You Wait for the Others
Nice to hear Grizzly Bear again & definitely one I've overlooked so thanks to whoever picked it - but I absolutely love Little Fluffy Clouds (#46 on my all time list)

Squeeze - Up the Junction
beats
Cut Copy - Hearts on Fire
Squeeze is another one in my all time top 100 (#80)

Kanye West - New Slaves
beats
Bob Dylan - Mississippi

T. Rex - Telegram Sam
beats
The Cranberries - Zombie
Really like both of these but Telegram Sam wins out.

John Prine - Sam Stone
beats
Eels - Novocaine for the Soul

Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand
beats
Four Tops - Bernadette
Wow this is a tough one. Love Bernadette but Red Right Hand has the edge!

Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy
beats
Bachman-Turner Overdrive - Takin' Care of Business

Angel Olsen - All Mirrors
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Estelle ft. Kanye West - American Boy
My nephew has been singing that viral Fortnite song to me all year so American Boy is in played to death territory.
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You're welcome, SL3!

My all-time ranks:

The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds - #3123
vs.
Grizzly Bear - While You Wait for the Others - #134

Squeeze - Up the Junction - #4313
vs.
Cut Copy - Hearts on Fire - I had overlooked this one before. Adding to my top 10,000 now, but it won't pass Up the Junction

Bob Dylan - Mississippi - #5846
vs.
Kanye West - New Slaves - #4876

The Cranberries - Zombie - #489
vs.
T. Rex - Telegram Sam - #5584

Eels - Novocaine for the Soul - #2553
vs.
John Prine - Sam Stone - Bubbling Under

Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand - I just voted this one out in the elimination game, but it finally started to click on this listen. I think it'll make my top 10,000 but Bernadette still edges it out.
vs.
Four Tops - Bernadette - #7982

Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy - #4748
vs.
Bachman-Turner Overdrive - Takin' Care of Business - #5105

Estelle ft. Kanye West - American Boy - #353
vs.
Angel Olsen - All Mirrors - #5762
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Just doing the ones I know already for now. Which is only:

Bob Dylan - Mississippi

vs.
Kanye West - New Slaves
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The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds
vs.
Grizzly Bear - While You Wait for the Others

Squeeze - Up the Junction
vs.
Cut Copy - Hearts on Fire

Bob Dylan - Mississippi
vs.
Kanye West - New Slaves

The Cranberries - Zombie
vs.
T. Rex - Telegram Sam

Eels - Novocaine for the Soul
vs.
John Prine - Sam Stone

Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand
vs.
Four Tops - Bernadette

Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy
vs.
Bachman-Turner Overdrive - Takin' Care of Business

Estelle ft. Kanye West - American Boy
vs.
Angel Olsen - All Mirrors
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The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds vs. Grizzly Bear - While You Wait for the Others -- No contest.

Squeeze - Up the Junction vs. Cut Copy - Hearts on Fire -- Nostalgic flashbacks.

Bob Dylan - Mississippi vs. Kanye West - New Slaves -- +1 for Omega.

The Cranberries - Zombie vs. T. Rex - Telegram Sam -- My #7 AT.

Eels - Novocaine for the Soul vs. John Prine - Sam Stone -- Close contest.

Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand vs. Four Tops - Bernadette -- My #35 AT.

Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy vs. Bachman-Turner Overdrive - Takin' Care of Business -- -1 for classic rock.

Estelle ft. Kanye West - American Boy vs. Angel Olsen - All Mirrors -- Drastic overproduction gets a lucky draw.
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Grizzly Bear - While You Wait for the Others
Cut Copy - Hearts on Fire
Bob Dylan - Mississippi
The Cranberries - Zombie

Eels - Novocaine for the Soul
Four Tops - Bernadette
Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy
Angel Olsen - All Mirrors
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Grizzly Bear - While You Wait for the Others
Squeeze - Up the Junction
Kanye West - New Slaves
The Cranberries - Zombie
Eels - Novocaine for the Soul
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand
Bachman-Turner Overdrive - Takin' Care of Business
Estelle ft. Kanye West - American Boy

"Bernadette" got a tough draw, I prefer it to a decent number of the songs I voted for.
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14. The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds vs. 15. Grizzly Bear - While You Wait for the Others
Two songs that have something going for them, but don't completely win me over. The spoken word element of Little Fluffy Clouds isn't a great fit and a bit too repetitive, but I prefer it over the stop-start-stop sound of Grizzly Bear. Musically I feel The Orb are just better.

7. Squeeze - Up the Junction vs. 6. Cut Copy - Hearts on Fire
Pretty much equals. I like the tumbling quality of the melody of Up the Junction, but there is a warm and welcoming element to Hearts on Fire that I usually miss in dance music, which makes it get my vote.

2. Bob Dylan - Mississippi vs. 16. Kanye West - New Slaves
Well, my favorite artist with a song I have in my top 1000 versus the artist I find most overrated was never going to be a hard pick. Still, I like the sound of Yeezus and also New Slaves. However, then you get to the lyrics and suddenly you find yourself listening to Kanye comparing actual slave labor to the idea that rich Afro-Americans like to buy expensive clothes. Yes, a very similar problem... Worthy of quoting Strange Fruit for, specifically a line that refers actual lynchings... Of course in the end Mr. West end up ranting about how underappreciated he is again, because that has a lot to do with it... Seriously, is Kanye West the least relatable artist alive?

3. The Cranberries - Zombie vs. 10. T. Rex - Telegram Sam
There is nothing overlooked about Zombie, regardless of were it places in the top 10.000. Nonetheless, despite Telegram Sam being a fun song, Zombie is clearly more unique and features some powerful vocals by Dolores O'Riordan that I can't resist.

9. Eels - Novocaine for the Soul vs. 11. John Prine - Sam Stone
Novocaine for the Soul keeps being somewhat strange and appealing. Sam Stone is a fine singer/songwriter song of the seventies, but there are better. In fact, though I barely know any John Prine, I feel he has done better songs too.

4. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand vs. 5. Four Tops - Bernadette
Indeed, these are both great and worthy to go on another round. Bernadette feels more genuinely overlooked, but I can't resist the almost mythologic intrigue that Red Right Hand brings.

8. Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy vs. 13. Bachman-Turner Overdrive - Takin' Care of Business
Takin' Care of Business is fine seventies rock, but seems inconsequential compared to similar genre efforts of the same decade that it actually outranks. Smalltown Boy on the other hand outranks it's peers, thanks to its unexpected ethereal and honest feeling.

12. Estelle ft. Kanye West - American Boy vs. 1. Angel Olsen - All Mirrors
This time Kanye West (along with Estelle) faces off against my own nominations and one of the best songs of the 2010's. A moving elegy to fading times and beauty, this is the song where the almost baroque art pop stylings of it's titular album reaches it's peak. It keeps grabbing me after so many listens. American Boy is actually fine too, but for me it is outclassed.
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The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds
vs.
Grizzly Bear - While You Wait for the Others

Squeeze - Up the Junction
vs.
Cut Copy - Hearts on Fire

Bob Dylan - Mississippi
vs.
Kanye West - New Slaves

The Cranberries - Zombie
vs.
T. Rex - Telegram Sam

Eels - Novocaine for the Soul
vs.
John Prine - Sam Stone


Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand
vs.
Four Tops - Bernadette

Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy
vs.
Bachman-Turner Overdrive - Takin' Care of Business

Estelle ft. Kanye West - American Boy
vs.
Angel Olsen - All Mirrors
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Grizzly Bear - While You Wait for the Others
Cut Copy - Hearts on Fire
Kanye West - New Slaves
The Cranberries - Zombie
Eels - Novocaine for the Soul
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand
Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy
Estelle ft. Kanye West - American Boy
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The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds
Cut Copy - Hearts on Fire
Kanye West - New Slaves
The Cranberries - Zombie
John Prine - Sam Stone
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand
Bachman-Turner Overdrive - Takin' Care of Business
Estelle ft. Kanye West - American Boy
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The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds
Squeeze - Up the Junction
Bob Dylan - Mississippi
Eels - Novocaine for the Soul
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand
Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy
Estelle ft. Kanye West - American Boy

A lot of these nominees seem pretty big for an "overlooked" game (Takin' Care of Business? American Boy?), but a lot of good stuff here. Up the Junction, Little Fluffy Clouds, and Red Right Hand are personal favorites.
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The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds < Grizzly Bear - While You Wait for the Others
Squeeze - Up the Junction < Cut Copy - Hearts on Fire
Bob Dylan - Mississippi > Kanye West - New Slaves
The Cranberries - Zombie > T. Rex - Telegram Sam

Eels - Novocaine for the Soul > John Prine - Sam Stone
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand > Four Tops - Bernadette
Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy > Bachman-Turner Overdrive - Takin' Care of Business
Estelle ft. Kanye West - American Boy < Angel Olsen - All Mirrors
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The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds
Cut Copy - Hearts on Fire
Kanye West - New Slaves (not my favorite Kanye song but I can't handle 90s and 2000s Dylan)
The Cranberries - Zombie
Eels - Novocaine for the Soul
Four Tops - Bernadette (strongest match up indeed)
Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy
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The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds
Squeeze - Up the Junction
Bob Dylan - Mississippi
T. Rex - Telegram Sam
Eels - Novocaine for the Soul
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand
Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy
Angel Olsen - All Mirrors
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Reminder that there is less than a day now to vote
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Eight and a half hours left (if someone votes after the deadline, I will count their votes as long as it does not cause a tie)
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There is a tie in the following matches, if someone who hasn't voted yet can break them:

Bob Dylan - Mississippi
vs.
Kanye West - New Slaves

Estelle ft. Kanye West - American Boy
vs.
Angel Olsen - All Mirrors
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American Boy
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Mississippi
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Results:
The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds: 11
Grizzly Bear - While You Wait for the Others: 10

Squeeze - Up the Junction: 11
Cut Copy - Hearts on Fire: 10

Bob Dylan - Mississippi: 12
Kanye West - New Slaves: 11

The Cranberries - Zombie: 15
T. Rex - Telegram Sam: 5

Eels - Novocaine for the Soul: 15
John Prine - Sam Stone: 6

Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand: 16
Four Tops - Bernadette: 5

Bronski Beat - Smalltown Boy: 18
Bachman-Turner Overdrive - Takin' Care of Business: 3

Estelle ft. Kanye West - American Boy: 11
Angel Olsen - All Mirrors: 10
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