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At the start of this year we decided we were gonna do a pre-1960's poll in 2022 (look here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9850).
I don't want to run it (though we do need someone to do that), but I would like to start my listening early, so I wanted to ask how we would proceed with that poll.
The last time this poll was run (in 2016: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3657) there were three separate polls: Songs 1900-1949, Songs 1950-1959, Albums 1900-1959. Each of these was one individual poll.
For the other decades (like the '60s this year) we used a monthly rhythm. We could do something like that here too (at least for the songs). An example would be:
February - 18xx-1919
March - 1920s
April - 1930-34
May - 1935-39
June - 1940-44
July - 1945-49
August - 1950-53
September - 1954+55
October - 1956+57
November - 1958+59
This is just a suggestion and basis for discussion. I am aware that it is difficult in many cases to find the actual release date, which can also be favored into the decision of how we approach this. The albums are a special case, of course.
I don't really have a strong opinion, so let's discuss.
I don't want to run it (though we do need someone to do that), but I would like to start my listening early, so I wanted to ask how we would proceed with that poll.
The last time this poll was run (in 2016: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3657) there were three separate polls: Songs 1900-1949, Songs 1950-1959, Albums 1900-1959. Each of these was one individual poll.
For the other decades (like the '60s this year) we used a monthly rhythm. We could do something like that here too (at least for the songs). An example would be:
February - 18xx-1919
March - 1920s
April - 1930-34
May - 1935-39
June - 1940-44
July - 1945-49
August - 1950-53
September - 1954+55
October - 1956+57
November - 1958+59
This is just a suggestion and basis for discussion. I am aware that it is difficult in many cases to find the actual release date, which can also be favored into the decision of how we approach this. The albums are a special case, of course.
I don't really have a strong opinion, so let's discuss.
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I like the suggestion you have made, as is, for the monthly rhythm. I *lean* towards leaving the three polls as in 2016...
but...
How is an "album" defined before the LP era? Is the rule that if it was released in a book of 78s together it's an album?
but...
How is an "album" defined before the LP era? Is the rule that if it was released in a book of 78s together it's an album?
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Albums before 1950 are limited. I suppose anything listed as an album or EP on RYM should count. The second half of the fifties has a huge output in jazz albums, rock 'n' roll songs, chanson etc. Before 1940 recording techniques were still rather primitive. So I would group the years even more in favour of the later years. E.g.:
- Before 1940
- 1940-1945
- 1946-1949
- 1950-1952
- 1953-1954
- 1955
- 1956
- 1957
- 1958
- 1959
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That's pretty much what I was going to suggest.bonnielaurel wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:57 pm
- Before 1940
- 1940-1945
- 1946-1949
- 1950-1952
- 1953-1954
- 1955
- 1956
- 1957
- 1958
- 1959
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The 1930s could maybe be given their own slot. That would potentially require making the early '50s one slot instead of two.Akhenaten wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:11 pmThat's pretty much what I was going to suggest.bonnielaurel wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:57 pm
- Before 1940
- 1940-1945
- 1946-1949
- 1950-1952
- 1953-1954
- 1955
- 1956
- 1957
- 1958
- 1959
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I like this suggestion most so far as to year breakouts. I don't really think of very many albums as "great" prior to 1960. Almost all of them that I do are from crooners. (I've only begun to dabble a bit in older jazz. I like older country but the better albums tend to be 60s and after...albums before that seem to be mostly afterthoughts..the big single plus covers as filler...much like many early rock records.)Live in Phoenix wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:27 pmThe 1930s could maybe be given their own slot. That would potentially require making the early '50s one slot instead of two.Akhenaten wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:11 pmThat's pretty much what I was going to suggest.bonnielaurel wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 4:57 pm
- Before 1940
- 1940-1945
- 1946-1949
- 1950-1952
- 1953-1954
- 1955
- 1956
- 1957
- 1958
- 1959
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The really early years would be more bearable if we could include classical music from the 1890s-onward, like the Nutcracker. But unless we include it as a cheat, we're subject to the weirdness of however these recordings actually came out and their availability today.
For instance, the Nutcracker Suite was released for the first time in 1909, as the first record album. So then I can include Nutcracker cuts (and maybe even put it on an album list) if I act like it's from 1909? I remember Mindrocker making a rare 1890s list here, and one of the entries was "Antonin Dvorák - Symphony No. 9: Brave New World (1893 - Classical)," which had to have been a cheat. You can't tell me that a full-length symphony was on record in 1893. Yet it can be tiresome trying to figure out when a classical recording actually came out (there are some historical recording lists out there), and in what form; plus, for that matter, I did a YouTube search right now and, unsurprisingly, didn't actually find the Odeon label 1909 Nutcracker recording...
For instance, the Nutcracker Suite was released for the first time in 1909, as the first record album. So then I can include Nutcracker cuts (and maybe even put it on an album list) if I act like it's from 1909? I remember Mindrocker making a rare 1890s list here, and one of the entries was "Antonin Dvorák - Symphony No. 9: Brave New World (1893 - Classical)," which had to have been a cheat. You can't tell me that a full-length symphony was on record in 1893. Yet it can be tiresome trying to figure out when a classical recording actually came out (there are some historical recording lists out there), and in what form; plus, for that matter, I did a YouTube search right now and, unsurprisingly, didn't actually find the Odeon label 1909 Nutcracker recording...
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A good split might be to extend the first 1940s section back to the mid 1930s so it would cover the height of the big band era plus the war years? (The early 1940s had a relatively low number of releases because of the war and the musicians union strike).
So have first two categories as:
- pre 1935
- 1935-45
Then the rest as bonnielaurel suggested?
So have first two categories as:
- pre 1935
- 1935-45
Then the rest as bonnielaurel suggested?
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Taking the previous posts into account, a suggestion:
February: Pre-1930s
March: 1930-1939
April: 1940-1949
May: 1950-1952
June: 1953+1954
July: 1955
August: 1956
September: 1957
October: 1958
November: 1959
This is for songs. For albums we could start in May or June and include all albums released up to that point.
February: Pre-1930s
March: 1930-1939
April: 1940-1949
May: 1950-1952
June: 1953+1954
July: 1955
August: 1956
September: 1957
October: 1958
November: 1959
This is for songs. For albums we could start in May or June and include all albums released up to that point.
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I've wondered (could be wrong) if voters are going to have a hard time dealing with pre-1930s, in which case pre-1935 would be a little easier to handle.SL3 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 2:42 am A good split might be to extend the first 1940s section back to the mid 1930s so it would cover the height of the big band era plus the war years? (The early 1940s had a relatively low number of releases because of the war and the musicians union strike).
So have first two categories as:
- pre 1935
- 1935-45
Then the rest as bonnielaurel suggested?
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I'd support any format mentioned in the thread after the OP. We all seem to accept there'd be slim pickings for original recordings of bearable audio quality* before the 20s. And if there's not much fondness for anything released on wax before the 30s, at least there'd be songs from movies we could choose from 1927 onwards.
If there's a consensus forming around pre-1935, then 1935-1945, followed by bonnielaurel's proposed schedule, I'd give my vote to that.
...
*I only mean that the recording isn't always reliable, not to have a dig at the music itself!
If there's a consensus forming around pre-1935, then 1935-1945, followed by bonnielaurel's proposed schedule, I'd give my vote to that.
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*I only mean that the recording isn't always reliable, not to have a dig at the music itself!
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There will be a new women songs/albums/artists poll?
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I can get through the '20s, but most anything earlier (which I've been listening to) is kind of terrible, except for classical, which I don't think we're emphasizing. If we went with '20s and earlier, that would at least be doable. Mid-'30s and earlier would maybe be better, but it's not essential if it screws up the monthly categories.
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I wouldn't start going down that road, because of the complications you mentioned and then some. And why include classical this way in the early part of the century and not from 60s onwards? Although I think some users already include classical (at least in all time lists, which makes it a bit less complicated), which is fine I guess.Live in Phoenix wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:08 pm The really early years would be more bearable if we could include classical music from the 1890s-onward, like the Nutcracker. But unless we include it as a cheat, we're subject to the weirdness of however these recordings actually came out and their availability today.
For instance, the Nutcracker Suite was released for the first time in 1909, as the first record album. So then I can include Nutcracker cuts (and maybe even put it on an album list) if I act like it's from 1909? I remember Mindrocker making a rare 1890s list here, and one of the entries was "Antonin Dvorák - Symphony No. 9: Brave New World (1893 - Classical)," which had to have been a cheat. You can't tell me that a full-length symphony was on record in 1893. Yet it can be tiresome trying to figure out when a classical recording actually came out (there are some historical recording lists out there), and in what form; plus, for that matter, I did a YouTube search right now and, unsurprisingly, didn't actually find the Odeon label 1909 Nutcracker recording...
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I always think classical compositions are completely different and have no place in song lists. That’d be like never being able to include All Along the Watchtower as anything other than a Bob Dylan song. They’re different and should be in different polls
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Honestly, if classical music from the 1900s is excluded, I will skip the poll altogether this time around. I don't know why classical "pieces" shouldn't be included in a songs poll. If we're using the technical definition of "songs," then a lot of jazz, movie soundtrack music, etc. would be excluded, too. I think the goal of these polls should always lean toward being more inclusive than exclusive. I helped run this poll last time and I never would've considered excluding classical music from the past century. (I do agree with not including anything pre-1900s, since this a poll of the first half of the century.)
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And, as Gillingham said, some of us do include classical music from the 60s forward in our lists (sonofsamiam, Henry, and myself, to name a few). They just don't make the final cut of the decade polls because its not popular enough amongst enough forum members to qualify (which is fine). But they would count if enough people voted for them.
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I disagree with this. I would say we should start with the beginning of recordings and move forward. I'm not sure if a song from the 19th century will make my Top 20, but I will have some on the list (which I am working on right now), for example Charles Asbury's "Haul the Woodpile Down" from 1894.
I don't think we should exclude this stuff because we would never do a poll for before-1900s music.
[Or maybe you just meant classical music, which I would be fine with.]
Regarding classical music, not in relation to the quote above: I don't think I will include it in my lists, but I don't mind if other people do.
I'm fine with having the first month go to 1935, but please no further. I hope to go through my compiled list of around 1200 songs from before 1930, and maybe add a few from the early 30s if I have the time. Let's just not pretend like there isn't anything of value to be found in that period; maybe people are just not looking hard enough.
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Yes! I was just referring to classical music. I, too, will be including popular songs from the 1890s in my list since, as you said, they would never be represented otherwise. I do get how people wouldn't want the poll filled with Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, etc., though, since the spirit of the poll is the beginning of pop music. However, so much of my favorite music of the early 1900s is from modern classical artists, and I'd hate to make a list that excludes them. I feel that classical pieces deserve a place in any music poll from the same period - the same as any instrumental or other genre of music would. Thank you for allowing their inclusion!Schüttelbirne wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:28 pmI disagree with this. I would say we should start with the beginning of recordings and move forward. I'm not sure if a song from the 19th century will make my Top 20, but I will have some on the list (which I am working on right now), for example Charles Asbury's "Haul the Woodpile Down" from 1894.
I don't think we should exclude this stuff because we would never do a poll for before-1900s music.
[Or maybe you just meant classical music, which I would be fine with.]
Regarding classical music, not in relation to the quote above: I don't think I will include it in my lists, but I don't mind if other people do.
I'm fine with having the first month go to 1935, but please no further. I hope to go through my compiled list of around 1200 songs from before 1930, and maybe add a few from the early 30s if I have the time. Let's just not pretend like there isn't anything of value to be found in that period; maybe people are just not looking hard enough.
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Definitely hope for all of these! I think this is referring to the decade-style polls only, but the usual all-time rotation of albums -> songs -> artists will proceed, I'd think. I also would love to have a women songs/albums poll, as I missed the last one.
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Whether I participate in the ALBUMS portion of this will likely depend on if there is a minimum submission criteria and how large that is because I'm not really a big jazz or classical listener.
As far as SONGS go, I don't think I'll have any issues with minimums unless there's like a 1890s-1910 breakout.
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And to add my tuppence re:Pre 1900 music:
I would lean toward inclusion also. If a 17 minute long Miles Davis piece is a song, then I see no reason why classical compositions shouldn't count also.
I also want to lobby for making the start of recorded music rather than just 1900 the starting year of.the poll. Public domain, the Library of Congress and YouTube mean that the average person's access to the earliest known recordings is better than it ever has been before.
I realize that no one probably wants to extend it into 2023 to allow a month for the 20s as a decade but I will second Schüttelbirne in requesting that February go up to 1935 at maximum.
I would lean toward inclusion also. If a 17 minute long Miles Davis piece is a song, then I see no reason why classical compositions shouldn't count also.
I also want to lobby for making the start of recorded music rather than just 1900 the starting year of.the poll. Public domain, the Library of Congress and YouTube mean that the average person's access to the earliest known recordings is better than it ever has been before.
I realize that no one probably wants to extend it into 2023 to allow a month for the 20s as a decade but I will second Schüttelbirne in requesting that February go up to 1935 at maximum.
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If you want to pore through the 1890s... This is a mixture of popular songs of the era, and songs from lists by Mindrocker and stevejazz. I don't make any claims on the quality herein. Very popular songs of each year are in bold.
One Minute Too Late - (Voss’) The 1st Regiment Band (Oct. 1, 1891; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T6ZsfOP_o8
Haul the Woodpile Down - Charles Asbury (1894; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqc4jI2I52I
John Yorke Atlee - The Devil's March (1898 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89qES2i3o88
John Yorke Atlee - The Mockingbird (1893 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opYeIh5aoyY
Emile Berliner - Auld Lang Syne (1890 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu9b_h6DLxM
Arthur Collins - Hello! Ma Baby (1899)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q6kG2r41lQ
Arthur Collins -- I'd Leave My Happy Home for You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-oFwy5QwdE
Cousins & Demoss - Poor Mourner (July 1897 - Popular; Mindrocker, stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvyYx2LQU7Y
My Old Kentucky Home - Edison Male Quartette (Oct.-Dec. 1897; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ffGOjYXRAk
Daisy Bell - Edward M. Favor (1894; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXrN16dttWg
After The Ball - George J. Gaskin (early 1893; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soxPknRyH-k
George J. Gaskin - Best In The House Is None Too Good For Reilly (1897 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzFnSmNvrEE
George J. Gaskin - Break the News to Mother
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egiocYIS_ZM
George J. Gaskin - Drill Ye Tarriers, Drill (1899 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGWsc5f2Fcw
George J. Gaskin - On The Banks Of The Wabash (1898)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKwjgea53Io
George J. Gaskin - She May Have Seen Better Days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLUtMhzDYxo
George J. Gaskin - She Was Bred in Old Kentucky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdikNvj_low
Billy Golden - Turkey In The Straw (1891 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdVfy3iN3cE
Billy Golden - Yaller Gal (1899 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWl4Cjy9ujE
Dorothy Hoyle - La Cinquantaine (1899 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdYJtET7RIw
Russell Hunting - Casey at Denny Murphy's Wake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxSR5GIrxwA
Russell Hunting - Michael Casey As a Physician
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNODi3MtUgY
Russell Hunting - Michael Casey at the Telephone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFkrqRj-RPs
Charles L. Johnson – Doc Brown’s Cakewalk (1899 - Ragtime; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TMWQcoNsQk
George W. Johnson - The Laughing Song (1895 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yvOMwHsh1A
George W. Johnson - The Whistling Coon (1891 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvGx-axtHzo
Manhansett Quartette - Sally In Our Alley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chybye1K-Nk
A Bunch of Rags - Vess L. Ossman (Jan. 1899; stevejazz; main site #4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGN1OsaxAJ0
Vess L. Ossman - Cocoanut Dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuYCK-iOfFI
Vess L. Ossman - Yankee Doodle (main site #3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFTB1LULy7o
Peerless Orchestra - Whistling Rufus (1899 - Marching Band; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrZHAepeYIM
Steve Porter - On the Banks of the Wabash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQZRsyzcYgI
Steve Porter - A Picture No Artist Can Paint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iToaRZYAdjk
Dan Quinn - At a Georgia Camp Meeting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkpVYRFHH8Y
Dan (W.) Quinn - The Band Played On (mid-1895 - Popular; Mindrocker, stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH3T-V1VMjc
Dan Quinn - A Hot Time In The Old Town
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whWvMzDT41A&t=7s
Samuel Siegel - Storyteller Waltz (1899 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei8AcBY0qVc
Sousa's Band - El Capitan March
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y28AwFOQnGY
Sousa's Band - The Stars and Stripes Forever (mid-1897 - Marching Band; Mindrocker, stevejazz; main site #1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR5Whqwd0ag
Len Spencer - Hello! Ma Baby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucZiiLRCgn8
A Hot Time In The Old Town - Len Spencer and Vess L. Ossman (early 1897; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRUXlY0twjc
Len Spencer with Vess Ossman - A Hot Time On The Levee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0tPEe4YBzE
Len Spencer - My Gal Is a Highborn Lady
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peUZGaBvcmg
Cal Stewart - I'm Old But I'm Awfully Tough (Laughing Song)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omKVFKN5ebM
Cal Stewart - Uncle Josh's Arrival in New York
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEmbD_EhITY
John Terrell - When Johnny Comes Marching Home Again (1898 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BTk-raafhU
The Unique Quartet - Mama's Black Baby Boy (1893 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-ynumcXWIo
The U.S. Marine Band - Semper Fidelis (1890)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfkTj4kwxcY
The U.S. Marine Band - The Thunderer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulFDTtby6bc
The Washington Post March - The U.S. Marine Band (summer 1890; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrphBqBIlYU
George P. Watson - Snyder, Does Your Mother Know You're Out? (1898 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXye97guew8
Biggest hits of the era (not necessarily year of release):
1890: U.S. Marine Band -- Semper Fidelis (and “” Washington Post)
1891: George W. Johnson -- The Laughing Song
1892: Len Spencer -- Ta-Ra-Ra-Boom Der E (no link -- try Sheet Music Singer if you just want to listen to it)
1893: George J. Gaskin -- After the Ball
1894: Edward M. Favor -- Say Au Revoir, But Not Goodbye (no link -- try John McCormack for listening)
1895: Dan Quinn -- The Band Played On
1896: Dan Quinn -- A Hot Time in the Old Town
1897: George J. Gaskin -- On the Banks of the Wabash
1898: George J. Gaskin -- My Old New Hampshire Home (no link -- try Consolidated Quartet for listening)
1899: Dan Quinn -- Curse of the Dreamer (no link -- try Sheet Music Singer for listening). Also: Arthur Collins -- I'd Leave My Happy Home for You
One Minute Too Late - (Voss’) The 1st Regiment Band (Oct. 1, 1891; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T6ZsfOP_o8
Haul the Woodpile Down - Charles Asbury (1894; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqc4jI2I52I
John Yorke Atlee - The Devil's March (1898 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89qES2i3o88
John Yorke Atlee - The Mockingbird (1893 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opYeIh5aoyY
Emile Berliner - Auld Lang Syne (1890 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu9b_h6DLxM
Arthur Collins - Hello! Ma Baby (1899)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q6kG2r41lQ
Arthur Collins -- I'd Leave My Happy Home for You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-oFwy5QwdE
Cousins & Demoss - Poor Mourner (July 1897 - Popular; Mindrocker, stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvyYx2LQU7Y
My Old Kentucky Home - Edison Male Quartette (Oct.-Dec. 1897; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ffGOjYXRAk
Daisy Bell - Edward M. Favor (1894; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXrN16dttWg
After The Ball - George J. Gaskin (early 1893; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soxPknRyH-k
George J. Gaskin - Best In The House Is None Too Good For Reilly (1897 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzFnSmNvrEE
George J. Gaskin - Break the News to Mother
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egiocYIS_ZM
George J. Gaskin - Drill Ye Tarriers, Drill (1899 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGWsc5f2Fcw
George J. Gaskin - On The Banks Of The Wabash (1898)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKwjgea53Io
George J. Gaskin - She May Have Seen Better Days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLUtMhzDYxo
George J. Gaskin - She Was Bred in Old Kentucky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdikNvj_low
Billy Golden - Turkey In The Straw (1891 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdVfy3iN3cE
Billy Golden - Yaller Gal (1899 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWl4Cjy9ujE
Dorothy Hoyle - La Cinquantaine (1899 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdYJtET7RIw
Russell Hunting - Casey at Denny Murphy's Wake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxSR5GIrxwA
Russell Hunting - Michael Casey As a Physician
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNODi3MtUgY
Russell Hunting - Michael Casey at the Telephone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFkrqRj-RPs
Charles L. Johnson – Doc Brown’s Cakewalk (1899 - Ragtime; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TMWQcoNsQk
George W. Johnson - The Laughing Song (1895 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yvOMwHsh1A
George W. Johnson - The Whistling Coon (1891 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvGx-axtHzo
Manhansett Quartette - Sally In Our Alley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chybye1K-Nk
A Bunch of Rags - Vess L. Ossman (Jan. 1899; stevejazz; main site #4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGN1OsaxAJ0
Vess L. Ossman - Cocoanut Dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuYCK-iOfFI
Vess L. Ossman - Yankee Doodle (main site #3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFTB1LULy7o
Peerless Orchestra - Whistling Rufus (1899 - Marching Band; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrZHAepeYIM
Steve Porter - On the Banks of the Wabash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQZRsyzcYgI
Steve Porter - A Picture No Artist Can Paint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iToaRZYAdjk
Dan Quinn - At a Georgia Camp Meeting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkpVYRFHH8Y
Dan (W.) Quinn - The Band Played On (mid-1895 - Popular; Mindrocker, stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH3T-V1VMjc
Dan Quinn - A Hot Time In The Old Town
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whWvMzDT41A&t=7s
Samuel Siegel - Storyteller Waltz (1899 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei8AcBY0qVc
Sousa's Band - El Capitan March
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y28AwFOQnGY
Sousa's Band - The Stars and Stripes Forever (mid-1897 - Marching Band; Mindrocker, stevejazz; main site #1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR5Whqwd0ag
Len Spencer - Hello! Ma Baby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucZiiLRCgn8
A Hot Time In The Old Town - Len Spencer and Vess L. Ossman (early 1897; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRUXlY0twjc
Len Spencer with Vess Ossman - A Hot Time On The Levee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0tPEe4YBzE
Len Spencer - My Gal Is a Highborn Lady
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peUZGaBvcmg
Cal Stewart - I'm Old But I'm Awfully Tough (Laughing Song)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omKVFKN5ebM
Cal Stewart - Uncle Josh's Arrival in New York
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEmbD_EhITY
John Terrell - When Johnny Comes Marching Home Again (1898 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BTk-raafhU
The Unique Quartet - Mama's Black Baby Boy (1893 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-ynumcXWIo
The U.S. Marine Band - Semper Fidelis (1890)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfkTj4kwxcY
The U.S. Marine Band - The Thunderer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulFDTtby6bc
The Washington Post March - The U.S. Marine Band (summer 1890; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrphBqBIlYU
George P. Watson - Snyder, Does Your Mother Know You're Out? (1898 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXye97guew8
Biggest hits of the era (not necessarily year of release):
1890: U.S. Marine Band -- Semper Fidelis (and “” Washington Post)
1891: George W. Johnson -- The Laughing Song
1892: Len Spencer -- Ta-Ra-Ra-Boom Der E (no link -- try Sheet Music Singer if you just want to listen to it)
1893: George J. Gaskin -- After the Ball
1894: Edward M. Favor -- Say Au Revoir, But Not Goodbye (no link -- try John McCormack for listening)
1895: Dan Quinn -- The Band Played On
1896: Dan Quinn -- A Hot Time in the Old Town
1897: George J. Gaskin -- On the Banks of the Wabash
1898: George J. Gaskin -- My Old New Hampshire Home (no link -- try Consolidated Quartet for listening)
1899: Dan Quinn -- Curse of the Dreamer (no link -- try Sheet Music Singer for listening). Also: Arthur Collins -- I'd Leave My Happy Home for You
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Re: Next year's polls
Reviving this to pester everybody with three questions:
1. Who will run the poll?
2. Who will actually participate? (Just considering there was not much response here)
3. Can we set a fixed schedule?
I think these two options are the ones we need to decide between (Pre-1940s seems very unkind to both 20s and 30s):
a) February: Pre-1930s
March: 1930-1939
April: 1940-1949
b) February: Up to 1935
March: 1936-1945
April: 1946-1949
Followed in any case by:
May: 1950-1952
June: 1953+1954
July: 1955
August: 1956
September: 1957
October: 1958
November: 1959
Should I start a poll?
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I can safely say there is a lot of value to be found in Pre-30's music. I'll need a few more days but I already have a very solid Top 250. My vote would go for a), but I'm fine with the other version too. I would just like to know.
______________________________
Also, when would the albums part start? In May or in June?
1. Who will run the poll?
2. Who will actually participate? (Just considering there was not much response here)
3. Can we set a fixed schedule?
I think these two options are the ones we need to decide between (Pre-1940s seems very unkind to both 20s and 30s):
a) February: Pre-1930s
March: 1930-1939
April: 1940-1949
b) February: Up to 1935
March: 1936-1945
April: 1946-1949
Followed in any case by:
May: 1950-1952
June: 1953+1954
July: 1955
August: 1956
September: 1957
October: 1958
November: 1959
Should I start a poll?
______________________________
I can safely say there is a lot of value to be found in Pre-30's music. I'll need a few more days but I already have a very solid Top 250. My vote would go for a), but I'm fine with the other version too. I would just like to know.
______________________________
Also, when would the albums part start? In May or in June?
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Re: Next year's polls
Just had a look about this, and I would say June appears to be the better alternative.Schüttelbirne wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:51 pm
Also, when would the albums part start? In May or in June?
If we go with the Top 15 of every month qualifying for the second round, we'd have a Top 90. Add 10 wildcards and we should have a solid Top 100 of Pre-60s albums.
Re: Next year's polls
I'll definitely participate! (I have no preference between Option A or B. I'm just thankful modern classical will be included.)
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Re: Next year's polls
I'll participate, at least in general. I don't know if I can handle the '50s on a year-by-year basis.
I think a) makes for a neater set of categories.
I think a) makes for a neater set of categories.
Re: Next year's polls
I plan to participate in the pre-1960's polls. Thanks for the pre-1900 listening suggestions.
Re: Next year's polls
I will participate. I have a slight preference for option (a).
Re: Next year's polls
I'll be participating too. Either a or b is fine by me.
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Re: Next year's polls
The 1890s
Here's a shorter version of the list, plus I give the 1900s and the 1910s each around 30+ songs, totaling 100. (The 1920s can handle itself.) This is a mixture of very popular songs of the era, ranked (except for the 1890s) main site songs, and songs from lists by Mindrocker and stevejazz. Very popular songs for each year are in bold.
(Voss’) The 1st Regiment Band - One Minute Too Late (Oct. 1, 1891; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T6ZsfOP_o8
Charles Asbury - Haul the Woodpile Down (1894; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqc4jI2I52I
John Yorke Atlee - The Devil's March (1898 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89qES2i3o88
John Yorke Atlee - The Mockingbird (1893 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opYeIh5aoyY
Arthur Collins - I'd Leave My Happy Home for You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-oFwy5QwdE
Cousins & Demoss - Poor Mourner (July 1897 - Popular; Mindrocker, stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvyYx2LQU7Y
Edison Male Quartette - My Old Kentucky Home (Oct.-Dec. 1897; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ffGOjYXRAk
Edward M. Favor - Daisy Bell (1894; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXrN16dttWg
George J. Gaskin - After The Ball (early 1893; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soxPknRyH-k
George J. Gaskin - Break the News to Mother
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egiocYIS_ZM
George J. Gaskin - Drill Ye Tarriers, Drill (1899 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGWsc5f2Fcw
George J. Gaskin - On The Banks Of The Wabash (1898)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKwjgea53Io
George J. Gaskin - She Was Bred in Old Kentucky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdikNvj_low
Billy Golden - Turkey In The Straw (1891 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdVfy3iN3cE
Billy Golden - Yaller Gal (1899 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWl4Cjy9ujE
Charles L. Johnson – Doc Brown’s Cakewalk (1899 - Ragtime; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TMWQcoNsQk
George W. Johnson - The Laughing Song (1895 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yvOMwHsh1A
Vess L. Ossman - A Bunch of Rags (Jan. 1899; stevejazz; main site #4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGN1OsaxAJ0
Vess L. Ossman - Honolulu Cake Walk (main site #2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMoI7C_hKEI
Vess L. Ossman - Smoky Mokes (main site #5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYKI7uPPG94
Vess L. Ossman - Yankee Doodle (main site #3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFTB1LULy7o
Dan (W.) Quinn - The Band Played On (mid-1895 - Popular; Mindrocker, stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH3T-V1VMjc
Dan Quinn - A Hot Time In The Old Town
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whWvMzDT41A&t=7s
Sousa's Band - El Capitan March
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y28AwFOQnGY
Sousa's Band - The Stars and Stripes Forever (mid-1897 - Marching Band; Mindrocker, stevejazz; main site #1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR5Whqwd0ag
Len Spencer - Hello! Ma Baby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucZiiLRCgn8
Len Spencer and Vess L. Ossman - A Hot Time In The Old Town (early 1897; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRUXlY0twjc
John Terrell - When Johnny Comes Marching Home Again (1898 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BTk-raafhU
The Unique Quartet - Mama's Black Baby Boy (1893 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-ynumcXWIo
The U.S. Marine Band - Semper Fidelis (1890)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfkTj4kwxcY
The U.S. Marine Band - The Washington Post March (summer 1890; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrphBqBIlYU
George P. Watson - Sauerkraut Is Bully (1898 - Popular; Mindrocker)
1902 version only: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCeuSKNAq4Q
George P. Watson - Snyder, Does Your Mother Know You're Out? (1898 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXye97guew8
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The 1900s decade
John Yorke Atlee - Our Whistling Servant Girl (1900 - Popular 1900s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7tNSfZ-oCU
Joe Belmont - The Mockingbird (1908 - Popular 1900s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owlhYqKdjRs
Henry Burr - I Wonder Who's Kissing Her Now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8jNAo0e0FQ
Enrico Caruso - I Pagliacci - Vesti La Giubba (On with the Play) (main site #3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_P1QdXMzfA
Arthur Collins – Bill Bailey, Won’t You Please Come Home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3seUny2pB8
Arthur Collins - The Preacher and the Bear (1905 - Popular 1900s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVoOEU6_OnM
Fisk Jubilee Singers/Fisk University Jubilee Quartet - Swing Low Sweet Chariot (Dec. 1, 1909; stevejazz) (main site #1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1KQi2xPfs0
George J. Gaskin & Joe Belmont - The Whip-Poor Will Song (1903 - Popular 1900s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmkaUcVb-jk
Byron G. Harlan - My Gal Sal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9_YAEbN2EA
Byron G. Harlan -- School Days (When We Were a Couple of Kids) (May 11, 1907; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfUmCBmHc1o
Byron G. Harlan - Wait Till the Sun Shines, Nellie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tthdPkncNn4
Haydn Quartet - In the Good Old Summer Time (Feb. 28, 1903; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccjSC_19dP8
Haydn Quartet - The Old Folks At Home (June 1, 1904; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3jmLFy74Vg
Haydn Quartet - Put On Your Old Gray Bonnet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH5X_sd7ZQo
Haydn Quartet - Sweet Adeline (You're the Flower of My Heart)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vu_vSX5kY4
The Haydn Quartet - Take Me Out to the Ball Game (Sept. 9, 1908); stevejazz) (main site #2)
(Billy Murray has also, apparently erroneously, received credit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCH-7vyywpE
George W. Johnson - The Laughing Coon (second version) (1902 - Popular 1900s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDoCaeVnNy4
(Perhaps more accurately an 1890s song. These songs were frequently re-recorded in a very non-digital age.)
Ada Jones & Billy Murray - Shine On, Harvest Moon (Mar.-Apr. 1909; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLOyFwwFKIw
Harry Lauder - Tickle Geordie (1905 - Popular 1900s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEdyzwO2M_4
Harry MacDonough & "Miss Walton" (Elise Stevenson) - Shine On, Harvest Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXYIFfEfoaQ
Edward Meeker - Take Me Out to the Ball Game (main site #8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9stW6YvR7AY
Billy Murray - Give My Regards to Broadway (main site #4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G4-gfKv6m8
Billy Murray - The Grand Old Rag (Feb. 6, 1906; stevejazz; main site #5)
(Apparently also called "You're a Grand Old Rag" or "...Flag")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cCwCOG_JSI
Billy Murray - Harrigan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JeloslC-oE
Billy Murray – Meet Me in St. Louis, Louis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf_DvVW1q1g
Billy Murray - The Yankee Doodle Boy (main site #7)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hhRdl2slTI
Billy Murray & Haydn Quartet - By the Light of the Silv’ry Moon (Dec. 22, 1909; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSrz1dpRKcU
Vess L. Ossman - Maple Leaf Rag (March 1907; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVRWpbfZI0M
Ossman-Dudley Trio - St. Louis Tickle (Jan. 24, 1906; stevejazz) (main site #9)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfecAGt_c0c
Len Spencer - Arkansaw Traveler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX4fGOLmLfE
Frank Stanley - Auld Lang Syne (main site #6)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZYvFjM1ytQ
Cal Stewart - Ticklish Rueben (1902 - Popular 1900s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqAkJ12tbzg
Bert Williams - Nobody
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovy6rknFWnk
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The 1910s
American Quartet - It’s a Long, Long Way to Tipperary (Nov. 28, 1914; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bPN5Nr0OOc
American Quartet - Moonlight Bay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7D3y3PZS4c
The American Quartet - Over There (Sept. 29, 1917; stevejazz) (main site #10)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSmc1-ezCQQ
American Quartet - You're A Grand Old Flag (1918 - Popular 10s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9PSe8eoheA
Nora Bayes - Over There (main site #6)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGLwJGv1fAQ
Henry Burr - Beautiful Ohio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO9a5KAtmTM
Henry Burr - Just a Baby's Prayer at Twilight (For Her Daddy Over There)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6vp2y9_v-M
Henry Burr & Albert Campbell - Till We Meet Again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGnhdE3ZI-U
Enrico Caruso - O sole mio (main site #4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1QJwHWvgP8
Arthur Collins & Byron Harlan - Alexander’s Ragtime Band (May 23, 1911; stevejazz) (main site #12)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx7bJx4NPLw
Willy Derby - Het Fiere Schooiershart (1919 - Dutch Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrHWY1dycq8
Abe Elenkrig's Yidishe Orchestra - Fon der Choope (From the Wedding) (main site #13)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aav1_8qxOx8
James Reese Europe / Europe's Society Orchestra - Castle House Rag (Castles in Europe) (main site #14)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu16WTdT3hQ
James Reese Europe / Europe’s Society Orchestra - Down Home Rag (Dec. 29, 1913; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaAM7j0YxrY
James Reese Europe / Jim Europe's 369th Infantry "Hellfighters" Band - Memphis Blues (main site #7)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJPztEjzf6s
Pasquale Feis - Pastorale di Natale (Oct. 1917; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmbHOc0Y3xg
Paul Gerbert - Der Rot Schwyzer (1919 - German Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXfFw9ZgY1M
Marion Harris - After You’ve Gone (July 15, 1918; stevejazz) (main site #11)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW33oH_EkW4
Al Jolson - Rock-A-Bye Your Baby with a Dixie Melody (main site #8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgYPZ091_30
Harry Lauder - Stop Your Ticklin', Jock (second version) (1910 - Popular 10s; Mindrocker)
Earlier version only: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7gWTtFDWHQ
Harry MacDonough & Olive Kline - They Didn’t Believe Me (Nov. 13, 1915; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESwstdEtgEQ
This might be also be the Alice Green version (main site #16)
Harry Marlow - When Tommy Comes Marching Home (1914 - Popular 1910s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQt_j9Nd8Ko
John McCormack - It's a Long, Long Way to Tipperary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVM-tFAdADg
John McCormack - The Star Spangled Banner (main site #15)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POXdagJ4j-Y
Billy Murray - Can You Tame Wild Wimmen? (1918 - Popular 10s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6Kgr_t37Oc
Billy Murray - He'd Have To Get Under, Get Out And Get Under (1913 - Popular 10s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV1Nkruquwg
Billy Murray & American Quartet - Casey Jones (March 11, 1910; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5P7TzXXfkE
Chauncey Olcott - When Irish Eyes Are Smiling (main site #9)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmRIWHmAXm0
Original Dixieland Jazz Band - Livery Stable Blues (main site #2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WojNaU4-kI
Original Dixieland Jazz Band - Tiger Rag (Mar. 25, 1918; stevejazz) (main site #3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89fZGnAdago
The Peerless Quartet - Let Me Call You Sweetheart (main site #5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8bvfG06dAU
Arthur Pryor - Canhanibalmo Rag (1911 - Marching Band; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh90Rm0wB20
Sophie Tucker - Some of These Days (Feb. 24, 1911; stevejazz) (main site #1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFrGiEUNTkI
U.S. Marine Band - Maple Leaf Rag (1910) (main site #17)
1907 version only: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYeGbtV5gsU
Here's a shorter version of the list, plus I give the 1900s and the 1910s each around 30+ songs, totaling 100. (The 1920s can handle itself.) This is a mixture of very popular songs of the era, ranked (except for the 1890s) main site songs, and songs from lists by Mindrocker and stevejazz. Very popular songs for each year are in bold.
(Voss’) The 1st Regiment Band - One Minute Too Late (Oct. 1, 1891; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T6ZsfOP_o8
Charles Asbury - Haul the Woodpile Down (1894; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqc4jI2I52I
John Yorke Atlee - The Devil's March (1898 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89qES2i3o88
John Yorke Atlee - The Mockingbird (1893 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opYeIh5aoyY
Arthur Collins - I'd Leave My Happy Home for You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-oFwy5QwdE
Cousins & Demoss - Poor Mourner (July 1897 - Popular; Mindrocker, stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvyYx2LQU7Y
Edison Male Quartette - My Old Kentucky Home (Oct.-Dec. 1897; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ffGOjYXRAk
Edward M. Favor - Daisy Bell (1894; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXrN16dttWg
George J. Gaskin - After The Ball (early 1893; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soxPknRyH-k
George J. Gaskin - Break the News to Mother
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egiocYIS_ZM
George J. Gaskin - Drill Ye Tarriers, Drill (1899 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGWsc5f2Fcw
George J. Gaskin - On The Banks Of The Wabash (1898)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKwjgea53Io
George J. Gaskin - She Was Bred in Old Kentucky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdikNvj_low
Billy Golden - Turkey In The Straw (1891 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdVfy3iN3cE
Billy Golden - Yaller Gal (1899 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWl4Cjy9ujE
Charles L. Johnson – Doc Brown’s Cakewalk (1899 - Ragtime; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TMWQcoNsQk
George W. Johnson - The Laughing Song (1895 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yvOMwHsh1A
Vess L. Ossman - A Bunch of Rags (Jan. 1899; stevejazz; main site #4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGN1OsaxAJ0
Vess L. Ossman - Honolulu Cake Walk (main site #2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMoI7C_hKEI
Vess L. Ossman - Smoky Mokes (main site #5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYKI7uPPG94
Vess L. Ossman - Yankee Doodle (main site #3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFTB1LULy7o
Dan (W.) Quinn - The Band Played On (mid-1895 - Popular; Mindrocker, stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH3T-V1VMjc
Dan Quinn - A Hot Time In The Old Town
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whWvMzDT41A&t=7s
Sousa's Band - El Capitan March
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y28AwFOQnGY
Sousa's Band - The Stars and Stripes Forever (mid-1897 - Marching Band; Mindrocker, stevejazz; main site #1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR5Whqwd0ag
Len Spencer - Hello! Ma Baby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucZiiLRCgn8
Len Spencer and Vess L. Ossman - A Hot Time In The Old Town (early 1897; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRUXlY0twjc
John Terrell - When Johnny Comes Marching Home Again (1898 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BTk-raafhU
The Unique Quartet - Mama's Black Baby Boy (1893 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-ynumcXWIo
The U.S. Marine Band - Semper Fidelis (1890)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfkTj4kwxcY
The U.S. Marine Band - The Washington Post March (summer 1890; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrphBqBIlYU
George P. Watson - Sauerkraut Is Bully (1898 - Popular; Mindrocker)
1902 version only: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCeuSKNAq4Q
George P. Watson - Snyder, Does Your Mother Know You're Out? (1898 - Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXye97guew8
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The 1900s decade
John Yorke Atlee - Our Whistling Servant Girl (1900 - Popular 1900s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7tNSfZ-oCU
Joe Belmont - The Mockingbird (1908 - Popular 1900s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owlhYqKdjRs
Henry Burr - I Wonder Who's Kissing Her Now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8jNAo0e0FQ
Enrico Caruso - I Pagliacci - Vesti La Giubba (On with the Play) (main site #3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_P1QdXMzfA
Arthur Collins – Bill Bailey, Won’t You Please Come Home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3seUny2pB8
Arthur Collins - The Preacher and the Bear (1905 - Popular 1900s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVoOEU6_OnM
Fisk Jubilee Singers/Fisk University Jubilee Quartet - Swing Low Sweet Chariot (Dec. 1, 1909; stevejazz) (main site #1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1KQi2xPfs0
George J. Gaskin & Joe Belmont - The Whip-Poor Will Song (1903 - Popular 1900s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmkaUcVb-jk
Byron G. Harlan - My Gal Sal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9_YAEbN2EA
Byron G. Harlan -- School Days (When We Were a Couple of Kids) (May 11, 1907; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfUmCBmHc1o
Byron G. Harlan - Wait Till the Sun Shines, Nellie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tthdPkncNn4
Haydn Quartet - In the Good Old Summer Time (Feb. 28, 1903; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccjSC_19dP8
Haydn Quartet - The Old Folks At Home (June 1, 1904; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3jmLFy74Vg
Haydn Quartet - Put On Your Old Gray Bonnet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH5X_sd7ZQo
Haydn Quartet - Sweet Adeline (You're the Flower of My Heart)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vu_vSX5kY4
The Haydn Quartet - Take Me Out to the Ball Game (Sept. 9, 1908); stevejazz) (main site #2)
(Billy Murray has also, apparently erroneously, received credit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCH-7vyywpE
George W. Johnson - The Laughing Coon (second version) (1902 - Popular 1900s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDoCaeVnNy4
(Perhaps more accurately an 1890s song. These songs were frequently re-recorded in a very non-digital age.)
Ada Jones & Billy Murray - Shine On, Harvest Moon (Mar.-Apr. 1909; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLOyFwwFKIw
Harry Lauder - Tickle Geordie (1905 - Popular 1900s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEdyzwO2M_4
Harry MacDonough & "Miss Walton" (Elise Stevenson) - Shine On, Harvest Moon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXYIFfEfoaQ
Edward Meeker - Take Me Out to the Ball Game (main site #8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9stW6YvR7AY
Billy Murray - Give My Regards to Broadway (main site #4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G4-gfKv6m8
Billy Murray - The Grand Old Rag (Feb. 6, 1906; stevejazz; main site #5)
(Apparently also called "You're a Grand Old Rag" or "...Flag")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cCwCOG_JSI
Billy Murray - Harrigan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JeloslC-oE
Billy Murray – Meet Me in St. Louis, Louis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf_DvVW1q1g
Billy Murray - The Yankee Doodle Boy (main site #7)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hhRdl2slTI
Billy Murray & Haydn Quartet - By the Light of the Silv’ry Moon (Dec. 22, 1909; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSrz1dpRKcU
Vess L. Ossman - Maple Leaf Rag (March 1907; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVRWpbfZI0M
Ossman-Dudley Trio - St. Louis Tickle (Jan. 24, 1906; stevejazz) (main site #9)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfecAGt_c0c
Len Spencer - Arkansaw Traveler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX4fGOLmLfE
Frank Stanley - Auld Lang Syne (main site #6)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZYvFjM1ytQ
Cal Stewart - Ticklish Rueben (1902 - Popular 1900s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqAkJ12tbzg
Bert Williams - Nobody
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovy6rknFWnk
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The 1910s
American Quartet - It’s a Long, Long Way to Tipperary (Nov. 28, 1914; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bPN5Nr0OOc
American Quartet - Moonlight Bay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7D3y3PZS4c
The American Quartet - Over There (Sept. 29, 1917; stevejazz) (main site #10)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSmc1-ezCQQ
American Quartet - You're A Grand Old Flag (1918 - Popular 10s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9PSe8eoheA
Nora Bayes - Over There (main site #6)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGLwJGv1fAQ
Henry Burr - Beautiful Ohio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO9a5KAtmTM
Henry Burr - Just a Baby's Prayer at Twilight (For Her Daddy Over There)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6vp2y9_v-M
Henry Burr & Albert Campbell - Till We Meet Again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGnhdE3ZI-U
Enrico Caruso - O sole mio (main site #4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1QJwHWvgP8
Arthur Collins & Byron Harlan - Alexander’s Ragtime Band (May 23, 1911; stevejazz) (main site #12)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx7bJx4NPLw
Willy Derby - Het Fiere Schooiershart (1919 - Dutch Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrHWY1dycq8
Abe Elenkrig's Yidishe Orchestra - Fon der Choope (From the Wedding) (main site #13)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aav1_8qxOx8
James Reese Europe / Europe's Society Orchestra - Castle House Rag (Castles in Europe) (main site #14)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu16WTdT3hQ
James Reese Europe / Europe’s Society Orchestra - Down Home Rag (Dec. 29, 1913; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaAM7j0YxrY
James Reese Europe / Jim Europe's 369th Infantry "Hellfighters" Band - Memphis Blues (main site #7)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJPztEjzf6s
Pasquale Feis - Pastorale di Natale (Oct. 1917; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmbHOc0Y3xg
Paul Gerbert - Der Rot Schwyzer (1919 - German Popular; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXfFw9ZgY1M
Marion Harris - After You’ve Gone (July 15, 1918; stevejazz) (main site #11)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW33oH_EkW4
Al Jolson - Rock-A-Bye Your Baby with a Dixie Melody (main site #8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgYPZ091_30
Harry Lauder - Stop Your Ticklin', Jock (second version) (1910 - Popular 10s; Mindrocker)
Earlier version only: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7gWTtFDWHQ
Harry MacDonough & Olive Kline - They Didn’t Believe Me (Nov. 13, 1915; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESwstdEtgEQ
This might be also be the Alice Green version (main site #16)
Harry Marlow - When Tommy Comes Marching Home (1914 - Popular 1910s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQt_j9Nd8Ko
John McCormack - It's a Long, Long Way to Tipperary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVM-tFAdADg
John McCormack - The Star Spangled Banner (main site #15)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POXdagJ4j-Y
Billy Murray - Can You Tame Wild Wimmen? (1918 - Popular 10s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6Kgr_t37Oc
Billy Murray - He'd Have To Get Under, Get Out And Get Under (1913 - Popular 10s; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV1Nkruquwg
Billy Murray & American Quartet - Casey Jones (March 11, 1910; stevejazz)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5P7TzXXfkE
Chauncey Olcott - When Irish Eyes Are Smiling (main site #9)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmRIWHmAXm0
Original Dixieland Jazz Band - Livery Stable Blues (main site #2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WojNaU4-kI
Original Dixieland Jazz Band - Tiger Rag (Mar. 25, 1918; stevejazz) (main site #3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89fZGnAdago
The Peerless Quartet - Let Me Call You Sweetheart (main site #5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8bvfG06dAU
Arthur Pryor - Canhanibalmo Rag (1911 - Marching Band; Mindrocker)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh90Rm0wB20
Sophie Tucker - Some of These Days (Feb. 24, 1911; stevejazz) (main site #1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFrGiEUNTkI
U.S. Marine Band - Maple Leaf Rag (1910) (main site #17)
1907 version only: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYeGbtV5gsU
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Re: Next year's polls
I'm not sure if this is the right thread to ask about this, but does anyone know what's going on with Moderately Acclaimed for this year? Is it starting later than in previous years?
Re: Next year's polls
Honorio will be running Moderately Acclaimed this year. In the past, we've kicked it off in early-mid March, though nothing is set in stone regarding start date.
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Re: Next year's polls
Yes, I was planning to start asking for nominations during February...
Edit: I've checked and I'e found that Brad began to ask for nominations on Jan 09, 2020 (much sooner than I remember). So I'll (try to) open the thread for nominations this weekend.
Edit: I've checked and I'e found that Brad began to ask for nominations on Jan 09, 2020 (much sooner than I remember). So I'll (try to) open the thread for nominations this weekend.
Re: Next year's polls
After seeing the first day of the 60s results, I'm wondering if it might be better to do a (slightly longer) pre-70s poll the next time we cycle back to this era (...in several years). The early 60s do no better than earlier years. I'm imagining something like:
-1929
1930s
1940s
1950-1952
1953-1955
1956-1958
1959-1961
1962-1963
1964
1965
1966
1967
1968
1969
Which, of course, is messy, but so is treating every year of the 60s equally when the forum has been shown to greatly prefer the late-60s...I would actually just do -1949 to cut down to 12 polls, but I guess I'll see how the next poll goes in regards to the early decades.
Which, while I think it would be good to shine a wider light on earlier popular music, I'm not sure this poll format is the best way to gain exposure. This entire game essentially runs on our already established opinions. A few rare tracks sneak in at the bottom ranks, but I think something like a pre-1960s exclusive Overlooked Songs or Unacclaimed would do more to establish forum favorites from this era than this particular format.
-1929
1930s
1940s
1950-1952
1953-1955
1956-1958
1959-1961
1962-1963
1964
1965
1966
1967
1968
1969
Which, of course, is messy, but so is treating every year of the 60s equally when the forum has been shown to greatly prefer the late-60s...I would actually just do -1949 to cut down to 12 polls, but I guess I'll see how the next poll goes in regards to the early decades.
Which, while I think it would be good to shine a wider light on earlier popular music, I'm not sure this poll format is the best way to gain exposure. This entire game essentially runs on our already established opinions. A few rare tracks sneak in at the bottom ranks, but I think something like a pre-1960s exclusive Overlooked Songs or Unacclaimed would do more to establish forum favorites from this era than this particular format.