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panam wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:50 pm I know this list was hotly debated at the time, but maybe now is the time to reconsider its inclusion?

NPR - The 200 Greatest Songs by 21st Century Women+ (2018)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... rte#p93445
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I was thinking about the fact that certain new lists will not affect the AM chart, but if we talk about a Top 10000, it is a fact that many international albums have the potential to enter. And about major lists that already have 95 to 100 percent of albums on them and that haven't been considered yet, is there any chance as long as it doesn't take too long for them to be included?
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panam wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 11:30 am
panam wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:50 pm I know this list was hotly debated at the time, but maybe now is the time to reconsider its inclusion?

NPR - The 200 Greatest Songs by 21st Century Women+ (2018)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... rte#p93445
No opinion about this?
I still think the criteria are messy for that one, with only women who debuted in the 21st cenrury. I don’t know how to deal with that in deciding what songs were eligible for the list. Any suggestions?
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panam wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 11:33 am I was thinking about the fact that certain new lists will not affect the AM chart, but if we talk about a Top 10000, it is a fact that many international albums have the potential to enter. And about major lists that already have 95 to 100 percent of albums on them and that haven't been considered yet, is there any chance as long as it doesn't take too long for them to be included?
What major lists are you talking about?
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Henrik wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 12:26 pm
panam wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 11:30 am
panam wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:50 pm I know this list was hotly debated at the time, but maybe now is the time to reconsider its inclusion?

NPR - The 200 Greatest Songs by 21st Century Women+ (2018)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... rte#p93445
No opinion about this?
I still think the criteria are messy for that one, with only women who debuted in the 21st cenrury. I don’t know how to deal with that in deciding what songs were eligible for the list. Any suggestions?
Songs from 2000 to 2018 performed by women soloists and bands with women members* (that debuted in the US or obtained significant relevance during 21st century according to voters)**

* Objective facts
** Subjective criteria, especially for non US artists. (Ann Powers -who was in charge of the list- says that the idea was only that the songs on the list represent the canon of female artists of the 21st century)
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Henrik wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 12:29 pm
panam wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 11:33 am I was thinking about the fact that certain new lists will not affect the AM chart, but if we talk about a Top 10000, it is a fact that many international albums have the potential to enter. And about major lists that already have 95 to 100 percent of albums on them and that haven't been considered yet, is there any chance as long as it doesn't take too long for them to be included?
What major lists are you talking about?
JazzWise previous versions, Creem Magazine, Rick Beato lists, Tom Moon extras. The Simon Frith includes songs and albums at the same time, I know it's a special one.
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panam wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 4:14 pm
Henrik wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 12:29 pm
panam wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 11:33 am I was thinking about the fact that certain new lists will not affect the AM chart, but if we talk about a Top 10000, it is a fact that many international albums have the potential to enter. And about major lists that already have 95 to 100 percent of albums on them and that haven't been considered yet, is there any chance as long as it doesn't take too long for them to be included?
What major lists are you talking about?
JazzWise previous versions, Creem Magazine, Rick Beato lists, Tom Moon extras. The Simon Frith includes songs and albums at the same time, I know it's a special one.
All of those would take quite some time to add. Sorry panam, but there’s so much to be done for the update anyway…
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Henrik wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 5:06 pm
panam wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 4:14 pm
Henrik wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 12:29 pm

What major lists are you talking about?
JazzWise previous versions, Creem Magazine, Rick Beato lists, Tom Moon extras. The Simon Frith includes songs and albums at the same time, I know it's a special one.
All of those would take quite some time to add. Sorry panam, but there’s so much to be done for the update anyway…
No problem. I'd be happy to help in any way I can. Although Excel isn't my strong suit, I'll do what I can to contribute
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Mowno (France) - 500 TRACKS FOR 20 YEARS OF MOWNO (2017)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... 44#p180844

Mowno (France) - 1997-2017, 20 YEARS IN 100 BEDSIDE RECORDS (2017)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... NO#p182512

Mowno (France) - MOWNO – 25 YEARS, 100 CONVERSATIONS (2022)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... hp?t=15222

Musikexpress (Germany) - 800th ME Edition: These albums changed our lives (2022)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... ny#p186589

🙏 Musikexpress (Germany) - 750 favorite Albums and Songs (2018)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... ny#p187646

Musikexpress (Germany) - 55 years Musikexpress: Our 55 Albums / Songs (2024)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... 63#p195963

500 Greatest Songs of All Time (Rolling Stone Magazine version 2021) {FIX THE TITLE ON THIS}
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... ling+stone

Okayplayer (USA) - The 100 Best Songs of The Decade + Other Lists
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... hp?t=12632

✂️ MOWNO - 100 disques de la décennie (EOD albums) - France {FIX THE TITLE ON THIS}
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... php?t=7960

From The Makers Of NME & Uncut (UK) – 501 Lost Songs (2011)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... ds#p177583

Q (UK) - 354 Albums To Blow Your Mind. (2020)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... hp?t=12146

Screenagers (PL) - 100 Albums / Singles of the 2010s
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... rs#p169863

FACT (UK) - The greatest electronic albums of the 1950s and 1960s (2014)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... hp?t=12815

FACT (UK) - The 100 greatest track titles in dance music history
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... t&start=50


And one personal favorite

Simon Reynolds (UK) - Generation Ecstasy: Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture (1998)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... ds#p181156
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After a few days without a computer, I'm back to let you know that I'll be working on gathering some of the international lists from the Critics' Lists subforum into spreadsheets. I'll start with those focused on Latin American countries and Spanish-speaking regions, as I'm most familiar with them. If anyone else wants to take on other regions, feel free to join in.
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Henrik wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 5:06 pm
its done
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VacantJoy wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 9:30 pm Mowno (France) - 500 TRACKS FOR 20 YEARS OF MOWNO (2017)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... 44#p180844

Mowno (France) - 1997-2017, 20 YEARS IN 100 BEDSIDE RECORDS (2017)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... NO#p182512

Mowno (France) - MOWNO – 25 YEARS, 100 CONVERSATIONS (2022)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... hp?t=15222

Musikexpress (Germany) - 800th ME Edition: These albums changed our lives (2022)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... ny#p186589

🙏 Musikexpress (Germany) - 750 favorite Albums and Songs (2018)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... ny#p187646

Musikexpress (Germany) - 55 years Musikexpress: Our 55 Albums / Songs (2024)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... 63#p195963

500 Greatest Songs of All Time (Rolling Stone Magazine version 2021) {FIX THE TITLE ON THIS}
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... ling+stone

Okayplayer (USA) - The 100 Best Songs of The Decade + Other Lists
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... hp?t=12632

✂️ MOWNO - 100 disques de la décennie (EOD albums) - France {FIX THE TITLE ON THIS}
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... php?t=7960

From The Makers Of NME & Uncut (UK) – 501 Lost Songs (2011)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... ds#p177583

Q (UK) - 354 Albums To Blow Your Mind. (2020)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... hp?t=12146

Screenagers (PL) - 100 Albums / Singles of the 2010s
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... rs#p169863

FACT (UK) - The greatest electronic albums of the 1950s and 1960s (2014)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... hp?t=12815

FACT (UK) - The 100 greatest track titles in dance music history
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... t&start=50


And one personal favorite

Simon Reynolds (UK) - Generation Ecstasy: Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture (1998)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... ds#p181156
Thanks VacantJoy! What I would really love to include here are the Musikexpress lists, but we don’t know for certain all the exact album titles (some spotify songs are taken from compilations). The songs lists themselves could probably be included, but I would like to see evidence that it’s their favorite song from each album, not just a random selection. And it feels a little weird to include the song lists without the album lists, as the album lists are the main ones in the magazines.
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Henrik wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:20 pm
VacantJoy wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 9:30 pm Mowno (France) - 500 TRACKS FOR 20 YEARS OF MOWNO (2017)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... 44#p180844

Mowno (France) - 1997-2017, 20 YEARS IN 100 BEDSIDE RECORDS (2017)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... NO#p182512

Mowno (France) - MOWNO – 25 YEARS, 100 CONVERSATIONS (2022)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... hp?t=15222

Musikexpress (Germany) - 800th ME Edition: These albums changed our lives (2022)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... ny#p186589

🙏 Musikexpress (Germany) - 750 favorite Albums and Songs (2018)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... ny#p187646

Musikexpress (Germany) - 55 years Musikexpress: Our 55 Albums / Songs (2024)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... 63#p195963

500 Greatest Songs of All Time (Rolling Stone Magazine version 2021) {FIX THE TITLE ON THIS}
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... ling+stone

Okayplayer (USA) - The 100 Best Songs of The Decade + Other Lists
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... hp?t=12632

✂️ MOWNO - 100 disques de la décennie (EOD albums) - France {FIX THE TITLE ON THIS}
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... php?t=7960

From The Makers Of NME & Uncut (UK) – 501 Lost Songs (2011)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... ds#p177583

Q (UK) - 354 Albums To Blow Your Mind. (2020)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... hp?t=12146

Screenagers (PL) - 100 Albums / Singles of the 2010s
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... rs#p169863

FACT (UK) - The greatest electronic albums of the 1950s and 1960s (2014)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... hp?t=12815

FACT (UK) - The 100 greatest track titles in dance music history
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... t&start=50


And one personal favorite

Simon Reynolds (UK) - Generation Ecstasy: Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture (1998)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... ds#p181156
Thanks VacantJoy! What I would really love to include here are the Musikexpress lists, but we don’t know for certain all the exact album titles (some spotify songs are taken from compilations). The songs lists themselves could probably be included, but I would like to see evidence that it’s their favorite song from each album, not just a random selection. And it feels a little weird to include the song lists without the album lists, as the album lists are the main ones in the magazines.
you re welcome , what are you thinking about them ? i don't know why you forgot the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time (Rolling Stone Magazine version 2021) {FIX THE TITLE ON THIS} , since the albums it was the only list added from 2017 ? We can include the songs at the momment for the 750th "" Because: In keeping with this, we have spent hours of meticulous work curating a Spotify playlist that serves you the 750 best tracks from ME's 750 favorite records on a silver platter. We've done a quick calculation: if you listen to all the songs in one go, it will take you around two and a half days. Listening to all the albums in one go would take more than three weeks."" so its definetely not a random selection.Also they have a lot of songs lists in their issues... I have asked mileswide if he wants to buy the magazine so we will see, thanks again mileswide for supporting economically my work ( he has bought the 800th edition too and others) , fact lists could be under personal favorites too because i didn't include genre lists ...
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”we have spent hours of meticulous work curating a Spotify playlist that serves you the 750 best tracks from ME's 750 favorite records on a silver platter”

I think I had not seen this info from the source before. Not sure if I will find time to add this list for this update, but that’s good news.
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VacantJoy wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:43 pm
Henrik wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:20 pm
VacantJoy wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 9:30 pm Mowno (France) - 500 TRACKS FOR 20 YEARS OF MOWNO (2017)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... 44#p180844

Mowno (France) - 1997-2017, 20 YEARS IN 100 BEDSIDE RECORDS (2017)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... NO#p182512

Mowno (France) - MOWNO – 25 YEARS, 100 CONVERSATIONS (2022)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... hp?t=15222

Musikexpress (Germany) - 800th ME Edition: These albums changed our lives (2022)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... ny#p186589

🙏 Musikexpress (Germany) - 750 favorite Albums and Songs (2018)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... ny#p187646

Musikexpress (Germany) - 55 years Musikexpress: Our 55 Albums / Songs (2024)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... 63#p195963

500 Greatest Songs of All Time (Rolling Stone Magazine version 2021) {FIX THE TITLE ON THIS}
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... ling+stone

Okayplayer (USA) - The 100 Best Songs of The Decade + Other Lists
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... hp?t=12632

✂️ MOWNO - 100 disques de la décennie (EOD albums) - France {FIX THE TITLE ON THIS}
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... php?t=7960

From The Makers Of NME & Uncut (UK) – 501 Lost Songs (2011)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... ds#p177583

Q (UK) - 354 Albums To Blow Your Mind. (2020)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... hp?t=12146

Screenagers (PL) - 100 Albums / Singles of the 2010s
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... rs#p169863

FACT (UK) - The greatest electronic albums of the 1950s and 1960s (2014)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... hp?t=12815

FACT (UK) - The 100 greatest track titles in dance music history
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... t&start=50


And one personal favorite

Simon Reynolds (UK) - Generation Ecstasy: Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture (1998)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... ds#p181156
Thanks VacantJoy! What I would really love to include here are the Musikexpress lists, but we don’t know for certain all the exact album titles (some spotify songs are taken from compilations). The songs lists themselves could probably be included, but I would like to see evidence that it’s their favorite song from each album, not just a random selection. And it feels a little weird to include the song lists without the album lists, as the album lists are the main ones in the magazines.
you re welcome , what are you thinking about them ? i don't know why you forgot the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time (Rolling Stone Magazine version 2021) {FIX THE TITLE ON THIS} , since the albums it was the only list added from 2017 ? We can include the songs at the momment for the 750th "" Because: In keeping with this, we have spent hours of meticulous work curating a Spotify playlist that serves you the 750 best tracks from ME's 750 favorite records on a silver platter. We've done a quick calculation: if you listen to all the songs in one go, it will take you around two and a half days. Listening to all the albums in one go would take more than three weeks."" so its definetely not a random selection.Also they have a lot of songs lists in their issues... I have asked mileswide if he wants to buy the magazine so we will see, thanks again mileswide for supporting economically my work ( he has bought the 800th edition too and others) , fact lists could be under personal favorites too because i didn't include genre lists ...
The Rolling Stone songs list got un update this year. (So 2 version not included so far)
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panam wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:47 am
The Rolling Stone songs list got un update this year. (So 2 version not included so far)
Oh, the 2021 version IS included in the update I'm working on. I have added it to the list of song lists in this topic now.

As for the 2024 update...I agree with Elder:
Elder wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:12 pm This type of irrelevant update discredits the original list and RS itself.
In the original list 300 voters, currently around 5 RS members

As Avril Lavigne would say: Complicated
I'll see what I can do. :)
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ooh so it was forgotten in this thread only . thats why i didn't include the update of it ...what about the other lists Henrik ? i feel like there is no coherence in the conversation ...
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The other ones have less priority to me, and/or require too much work.

My question in this topic was if I had missed something major/obvious. Like the RS list. Otherwise I think of the suggestions from panam, lagire and you as recommendations for following updates. I hope this is fine with you.
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Sorry if this sounds negative, but the discussions about what lists are not included make me a bit exhausted and I will not let the work on the site ”take over” my life like it used to during the 00s-10s.

I definitely understand the frustration some of you have after finding and transcribing all these lists that will not be included. But the expansion to 10,000 albums and the lists I am going to add is already a bit of stretch for me. I need to move on now with enthusiasm rather than pressure or guilt.

I won’t have more time in the future either, but hopefully we can build a solution that is much more collaborative. But that’s for later…
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so the recommendations were like not useful at the moment (for this update) , yeap its fine .

yeah i understand what you are saying , i have been in the same situation though for less years ...

i was expecting this situation

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my question about this '' I won’t have more time in the future either, but hopefully we can build a solution that is much more collaborative. But that’s for later…''

If we add all the needed info about the albums , create the spreadsheets , after the critics sub-forums are categorized and decluttered , what are you doing exactly ? Do you create the final version of the spreadsheet by combining all the spreadsheets together and adding the formula of weighting score to it ?
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Henrik wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 6:33 am
panam wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:47 am
The Rolling Stone songs list got un update this year. (So 2 version not included so far)
Oh, the 2021 version IS included in the update I'm working on. I have added it to the list of song lists in this topic now.

As for the 2024 update...I agree with Elder:
Elder wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:12 pm This type of irrelevant update discredits the original list and RS itself.
In the original list 300 voters, currently around 5 RS members

As Avril Lavigne would say: Complicated
I'll see what I can do. :)
I apologize. I get confused because of the previous comment. You've just said that.
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VacantJoy wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 11:26 am my question about this '' I won’t have more time in the future either, but hopefully we can build a solution that is much more collaborative. But that’s for later…''

If we add all the needed info about the albums , create the spreadsheets , after the critics sub-forums are categorized and decluttered , what are you doing exactly ? Do you create the final version of the spreadsheet by combining all the spreadsheets together and adding the formula of weighting score to it ?
”all the needed info about the albums”
What info and what albums are you talking about here? Background info? Ratings from various sources? There are already about 60,000 albums and 60,000 songs that have been mentioned in one of the critics lists I have added. If all lists in all subforums are added too that means many thousands more. Do you mean info about all of them?

It’s the merging of different spreadsheets/lists that usually takes most of the time. There are always different spellings etc. that makes it a time-consuming task if you want to do it without many errors. This is something I will need to ask for your help a lot more in the future.
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Henrik wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 2:36 pm
VacantJoy wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 11:26 am my question about this '' I won’t have more time in the future either, but hopefully we can build a solution that is much more collaborative. But that’s for later…''

If we add all the needed info about the albums , create the spreadsheets , after the critics sub-forums are categorized and decluttered , what are you doing exactly ? Do you create the final version of the spreadsheet by combining all the spreadsheets together and adding the formula of weighting score to it ?
”all the needed info about the albums”
What info and what albums are you talking about here? Background info? Ratings from various sources? There are already about 60,000 albums and 60,000 songs that have been mentioned in one of the critics lists I have added. If all lists in all subforums are added too that means many thousands more. Do you mean info about all of them?

It’s the merging of different spreadsheets/lists that usually takes most of the time. There are always different spellings etc. that makes it a time-consuming task if you want to do it without many errors. This is something I will need to ask for your help a lot more in the future.
yeap background info , i mean about all of them and that's an idea i am sharing (I DONT MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT I AM SAYING) { sorry for the CAPS :mrgreen: but from getting my words out of context/misread therefore getting attacked its better :mrgreen: } , are these different spelling by the variety of languages ? do you mean me specifically because i am not that experienced with excel and etch that's why i didn't contribute with the spreadsheets apart from time ... in the future i will try to organize the ''EOD 2010'' , ''lists of lists'' i will move each post to the right category and ''REGULARLY UPDATED LISTS'' that you have told me to start new topics and lagire is willing to help , btw mercury prize was posted in EOYs although the same kind of lists were posted in ''REGULARLY UPDATED LISTS'' (hall of fame) so i moved everything to ''duplicate'' and created a new topic in ''REGULARLY UPDATED LISTS''
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Just an FYI: Ultimate Classic Rock is a U.S.A. website, not a U.K. one
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Henrik wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 10:16 am Sorry if this sounds negative, but the discussions about what lists are not included make me a bit exhausted and I will not let the work on the site ”take over” my life like it used to during the 00s-10s.

I definitely understand the frustration some of you have after finding and transcribing all these lists that will not be included. But the expansion to 10,000 albums and the lists I am going to add is already a bit of stretch for me. I need to move on now with enthusiasm rather than pressure or guilt.

I won’t have more time in the future either, but hopefully we can build a solution that is much more collaborative. But that’s for later…
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Jonathon wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:50 pm
Henrik wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 10:16 am Sorry if this sounds negative, but the discussions about what lists are not included make me a bit exhausted and I will not let the work on the site ”take over” my life like it used to during the 00s-10s.

I definitely understand the frustration some of you have after finding and transcribing all these lists that will not be included. But the expansion to 10,000 albums and the lists I am going to add is already a bit of stretch for me. I need to move on now with enthusiasm rather than pressure or guilt.

I won’t have more time in the future either, but hopefully we can build a solution that is much more collaborative. But that’s for later…
You’ve given us so much over the last 20 plus years. You don’t owe anyone your mental health. We’re all older with different lives now, and different priorities. This is a hobby and shouldn’t dictate your life.
Going to second this. This coming update is already going above and beyond my expectations with its expansion of albums to 10,000, and looking at the albums and songs being added to the site, the variety is insane and includes a great many previously overlooked areas. Henrik, you should certainly do everything at whatever pace you’d like and I think you’ve been exceedingly fair with your suggestions as to how lists that aren’t being included could be included in the future. Just know that me and so many others are so excited for the update whenever it comes and in whatever form it takes.
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I third Jonathon’s and Holden’s sentiments. Just focus on what YOU feel is possible to achieve this update, Henrik. The rest can wait until the next update.

So I hope you’ll be able to take a deep breath and reach a point of calm about this. And that you’ll find some joy in the knowledge that your next update will be an exciting event for a lot of people, whatever is included or not included.
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Holden wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 3:28 pm
Jonathon wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:50 pm
Henrik wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2024 10:16 am Sorry if this sounds negative, but the discussions about what lists are not included make me a bit exhausted and I will not let the work on the site ”take over” my life like it used to during the 00s-10s.

I definitely understand the frustration some of you have after finding and transcribing all these lists that will not be included. But the expansion to 10,000 albums and the lists I am going to add is already a bit of stretch for me. I need to move on now with enthusiasm rather than pressure or guilt.

I won’t have more time in the future either, but hopefully we can build a solution that is much more collaborative. But that’s for later…
You’ve given us so much over the last 20 plus years. You don’t owe anyone your mental health. We’re all older with different lives now, and different priorities. This is a hobby and shouldn’t dictate your life.
Going to second this. This coming update is already going above and beyond my expectations with its expansion of albums to 10,000, and looking at the albums and songs being added to the site, the variety is insane and includes a great many previously overlooked areas. Henrik, you should certainly do everything at whatever pace you’d like and I think you’ve been exceedingly fair with your suggestions as to how lists that aren’t being included could be included in the future. Just know that me and so many others are so excited for the update whenever it comes and in whatever form it takes.
As much as I've always wanted 10,000 albums (One of my favorite bands is potentially getting EIGHT albums added to their ranking next update. Should help their ranking), I never expected it, and honestly felt it would be selfish to ever ask for. Henrik is making his life more of a pain in order to give us the biggest reordering of the site in almost ten years. If I were Henrik, I wouldn't do it.

There's always going to be another list, and if the goal posts keep changing, the update will never get done. I stand by Dan and Holden in supporting Henrik with whatever he's got the time and energy to give us. We can hash out the future after the update, and figure out how to make the process more collaborative in order to take the burden off of Henrik. For now, let's just enjoy what we're getting, and not be greedy.
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Dan wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 3:35 pmI third Jonathon’s and Holden’s sentiments.
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Totally agree with the above sentiments.
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Henrik, do what you want, it's your wonderful website. And thank you for all the years of musical research you've made possible. :mrgreen:
Many thanks to those who transcribed all these lists, whether added to this update or not. :romance-kisscheek:
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Agree with what everyone has expressed above. For years, I literally start every morning checking out the AMF to give my day a bright start. I could never thank Henrik enough for everything this site and all the great people involved with it have contributed to my life. I'm appreciative of all the updates over the years, but those are just the cherry on top of the sundae for me. I'm just grateful the best music site on the internet is still active so many years after I first discovered it! :romance-grouphug:
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jamieW wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2024 11:57 pm Agree with what everyone has expressed above. For years, I literally start every morning checking out the AMF to give my day a bright start. I could never thank Henrik enough for everything this site and all the great people involved with it have contributed to my life. I'm appreciative of all the updates over the years, but those are just the cherry on top of the sundae for me. I'm just grateful the best music site on the internet is still active so many years after I first discovered it! :romance-grouphug:
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Blanco wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 4:43 am After a few days without a computer, I'm back to let you know that I'll be working on gathering some of the international lists from the Critics' Lists subforum into spreadsheets. I'll start with those focused on Latin American countries and Spanish-speaking regions, as I'm most familiar with them. If anyone else wants to take on other regions, feel free to join in.
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I see that some lists of the site Diario Crítico will be included in the next update.
Some other interesting list come from this site, like this one:

https://www.diariocritico.com/noticia/4 ... nes-espana
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lagire wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 4:56 am I see that some lists of the site Diario Crítico will be included in the next update.
Some other interesting list come from this site, like this one:

https://www.diariocritico.com/noticia/4 ... nes-espana
Great! Please post it in the critics list section. Thanks!
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Hi Henrik,

https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... er#p197775

At some point this one has got lost along the way…
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Kinda hope the Rolling Stone Stevie Wonder list makes the cut. I’m selfish.
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