Errors in the 2020 update

[Bang Jan]

Should Locomotion by Kylie Minogue be under 1988 as that's when the SAW version was released? The 1987 version is a different recording.

https://acclaimedmusic.net/song/S14639.htm

[VacantJoy]

Last (hopefully) but not least, Doom is actually MF Doom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MF_Doom

Other names for MF Doom
Zev Love X , King Geedorah , Viktor Vaughn , Metal Fingers , Doom , Metal Face

i searched all the names for MF Doom in the database so the only one missing is Doom https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/artist/Doom.htm as Pierre has already stated

[VacantJoy]

Another case of a Hip-Hop artist with a lot of alter egos so artistic names too is Kool Keith

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kool_Keith

Kool Keith Also known as
Dr. Octagon , Dr. Dooom , Black Elvis , Dr. Ultra , Crazy Lou , Poppa Large , Rhythm X , Keith Korg , Dicky Long Docking , Platinum Rich , Underwear Pissy , Number One Producer

https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/artist/Kool%20Keith.htm
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/artist/Dr.%20Octagon.htm

I searched all the names in the database so i found these two , which are the Same Artist

[VacantJoy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madlib

Quasimoto is Madlib https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/artist/Quasimoto.htm

Madlib Also known as Quasimoto, Yesterdays New Quintet, DJ Rels, Beat Konducta, The Loop Digga

[Pierre]

François Deguelt's page on the website is a 404 error

[Nick]

Betty Everett's "The Shoop Shoop Song" is from 1964, not 1963:

https://rateyourmusic.com/release/singl ... hands_off/

[lagire]

Wynton Kelly Kelly Blue doesn't appears on the list
"Ben Ratliff (USA) - The 100 (+ Another 100) Most Important Jazz Recordings (2002)"
not in 1st order, neither in snd

if you borrow the book, you can see that.
https://archive.org/details/inlibrary?query=ben+ratliff

[lagire]

Appears on this list "Grammy Hall of Fame Albums and Songs (USA)"
Duke Ellington Concerto for Cootie under title "DO NOTHIN' TILL YOU HEAR FROM ME"
https://www.grammy.com/awards/hall-of-fame-award#d

[lagire]

Miss 10 entries from Book "Mark Ellingham (USA) - The Rough Guide Book of Playlists: 5,000 Songs You Must Download (2007)"
The Cajun & Zydeco Section at page 54
https://archive.org/details/roughguideb ... ew=theater

Falcon, Joseph F. Allons à Lafayette 1928
Ardoin, Amédé Les Blues De La Prison
Hackberry Ramblers Fais Pas Ca 1938
Choates, Harry Gra Mamou (Big Mamou) 1950
Abshire, Nathan Dying In Misery 1975
Balfa Brothers, The Jole Blon 1965
Clifton Chenier Bon Ton Roulet 1967
Michael Doucet Wade's Waltz (Caillette Est Crevee) 1989
Queen Ida And Her Zydeco Band Hey Negress 1985
Zydeco, Buckwheat I Bought A Racoon 1979

[Krurze]

Blackstreet was formed in New York, not California, according to Wikipedia, Allmusic and RateYourMusic.

[lagire]

Again on "Mark Ellingham (USA) - The Rough Guide Book of Playlists: 5,000 Songs You Must Download (2007)"
Miss Miles Davis Boplicity 1949
Page 89
https://archive.org/details/roughguideb ... ew=theater

i guess that these other entries weren't integrated
Miles Davis I Could Write a Book 1958
Adderley, Cannonball Somethin' Else 1959
Miles Davis Gone 1959
Miles Davis Someday My Prince Will Come 1961
Miles Davis In a Silent Way / It's About That Time 1969
Miles Davis Funky Tonk 1971
Miles Davis On the Corner 1972

i think 1 of 2 were taken into account for this miles davis section

[lagire]

Again on "Mark Ellingham (USA) - The Rough Guide Book of Playlists: 5,000 Songs You Must Download (2007)"
Miss Death Zombie Ritual 1987
Listed as Zombie Ritual Zombie Ritual (Typewriting error) but in fact the song above
https://archive.org/details/roughguideb ... ew=theater

The excel file on the thread forgot this 2 ones also:
Dr. John Party Hellfire 1998
Dr. John I'm Gonna Go Fishin' 2000
https://archive.org/details/roughguideb ... ew=theater

[lagire]

Tyrone Davis Can I Change My Mind
appears on the list "Mark Ellingham (USA) - The Rough Guide Book of Playlists: 5,000 Songs You Must Download (2007)"
instead of song "Start All Over Again" mentionned in thread
https://archive.org/details/roughguideb ... ew=theater

[Blanco]

It's not exactly an error, but in my view, the album "Kind of Blue" by Miles Davis should be credited to include Julian "Cannonball" Adderley, Paul Chambers, James Cobb, John Coltrane, Bill Evans, and Wynton Kelly, as clearly indicated on the cover.



The presentation of their names on the cover suggests a "featuring" status, which I believe should be reflected in their individual statistics on Acclaimed Music to more accurately represent their contributions.

[Pierre]

I would disagree It's fairly common with jazz album covers actually. I believe it's much more simple to keep the album credited to the leader for the session

[lagire]

Another misses on "Mark Ellingham (USA) - The Rough Guide Book of Playlists: 5,000 Songs You Must Download (2007)"
Primal Scream The 99th Floor 2006
Primal Scream Dolls (Sweet Rock and Roll) 2006

https://archive.org/details/roughguideb ... ew=theater

[lagire]

Miss two from "Mark Ellingham (USA) - The Rough Guide Book of Playlists: 5,000 Songs You Must Download (2007)"
on KT Tunstall Picks
Harvey, PJ A Perfect Day Elise 1998
Touré, Ali Farka & Ry Cooder Sega 1994

https://archive.org/details/roughguideb ... ew=theater

[o.m.]

Hi Henrik, I've seen that the link for this list was broken. I found it again.

https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelecte ... eadid=9235

[Nassim]

So because of Biggest Fans I was checking in which list Desafio by Arca was included, and cause it's on a Pitchfork list I decided to go read the blurb. Where it was supposed to be, I found instead a song by Camp Code.
The thing is the post on acclaimed music indeed has Arca at #25. Could have been a mistake, but a post on the Brooklyn Vegan from 2017 has the same info, as well as a list on RYM. Could they have copied AM ? Sure, but then there is a Spotify playlist posted by Pitchfork that also have Desafio right where it should be.
So it seems that at some point Pitchfork has edited their 2017s EOY list, and as far as I can tell they made only one single change...

Edit :
This confirms Arca used to be at #25
https://web.archive.org/web/20171211082 ... s-of-2017/

[StevieFan13]

Not so much an error as a preemptive strike: the Dixie Chicks are now known as the Chicks, and Lady Antebellum as Lady A (not to be confused with the singer of the same name...if you know, you know...). So any reference to them should reflect the new names. Same for Anohni and the Johnsons.

[mileswide]

Freiburg v3.0 by Tocotronic is a remix of Freiburg on the band's debut Digital ist besser, so possibly should be listed as 1996 1995 rather than 2000? I forget what the situation is with remixes with different names though, so I'm just as likely to be wrong

[lagire]

Hill, Z.Z. artist link is completely broken

[Blanco]

I would disagree It's fairly common with jazz album covers actually. I believe it's much more simple to keep the album credited to the leader for the session

Hi Pierre!

I respect your viewpoint. And I agree, crediting only the session leader would be simpler. However, the common practice of listing all participating musicians on jazz album covers hints at the unique importance of each individual's contribution within this genre. This deliberate choice by the album's creators underscores a recognition that we, too, should honor. "Kind of Blue", for example, not only highlights Miles Davis's leadership but also showcases some of John Coltrane's most exceptional work. To exclude such significant contributions from his profile on AM seems to overlook an essential part of his musical heritage. If we have the means to accurately attribute contributions, doing so could deepen our appreciation of these artists' roles in music history, especially for new listeners.

[Pierre]

I would disagree It's fairly common with jazz album covers actually. I believe it's much more simple to keep the album credited to the leader for the session

Hi Pierre!

I respect your viewpoint. And I agree, crediting only the session leader would be simpler. However, the common practice of listing all participating musicians on jazz album covers hints at the unique importance of each individual's contribution within this genre. This deliberate choice by the album's creators underscores a recognition that we, too, should honor. "Kind of Blue", for example, not only highlights Miles Davis's leadership but also showcases some of John Coltrane's most exceptional work. To exclude such significant contributions from his profile on AM seems to overlook an essential part of his musical heritage. If we have the means to accurately attribute contributions, doing so could deepen our appreciation of these artists' roles in music history, especially for new listeners.

The issue is that it would open the door to the possibility of pushing the reasoning through on the scale of the entire website and credit every single musician (and why not songwriter and producer then) that ever performed on every single piece of music featured on AM.net. That would be an absolute nightmare for Henrik. I believe it's not a good idea because of the very nature of the website. Of course, in the absolute, it would sound like a logical step further to deepen the understanding of acclaimed music, but is totally inapplicable here

[lagire]

The albums from this list seems not to be included
Sean Egan (USA) - The Little Black Book of Music (2007)
Key Songs are, is there a reason?
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... f=3&t=4343

[Blanco]

The issue is that it would open the door to the possibility of pushing the reasoning through on the scale of the entire website and credit every single musician (and why not songwriter and producer then) that ever performed on every single piece of music featured on AM.net. That would be an absolute nightmare for Henrik. I believe it's not a good idea because of the very nature of the website. Of course, in the absolute, it would sound like a logical step further to deepen the understanding of acclaimed music, but is totally inapplicable here

I want to clarify that my suggestion isn't aimed at crediting every single musician, composer, or producer involved in albums featured on AM. My point is specifically about instances where the artists explicitly lists musicians as primary artists, similar to how "Jamie xx feat. Young Thug & Popcaan" or "Stan Getz and João Gilberto featuring Antônio Carlos Jobim" are already credited. It's not about crediting every contribution, but honoring the presentation of the album as indicated by its creators. I understand that Jazz often includes a larger number of individuals, which I think reflects its inherently collaborative essence. This phenomenon doesn't seem to occur in other musical genres. Hence, in this instance, my support is solely for jazz.

Even so, I haven't seen much cases like this one (Maybe because Jazz isn't overwhelmingly represented on AM). And even if there are, probably there are not that many cases. I'm not advocating for every participant on every album or song of every genre. "Kind of Blue" is a prime example where the collaborative essence is front and center. This isn't about rewriting the rules but applying a nuanced approach to how we recognize contributions in cases where the artists themselves have highlighted their collective effort.

I think it would be fair, similarly to how it occurs in situations such as "Crazy in Love", "Runaway", "Get Lucky", "Watch the Throne", and "The Basement Tapes", among others. Except that in Jazz, more individuals are involved.

But I understand your concerns about workload and complexity this might introduce to Henrik. To address this, I'm more than willing to assist in compiling and updating the necessary information on the spreadheet to minimize the impact on Henrik's work (Even if, as I mentioned earlier, this is the only instance I've found so far where I believe we're not giving proper credit where it's due.) This way, we can ensure accuracy and respect for the artists' presentation without overburdening the site's maintenance.

[lagire]

B.B. King Live in Cook County Jail yet included on AM on list "José Ramón Pardo (Spain) - The 1000 Best Pop-Rock Albums, Ratings 1-5 (1997)"
But album Live at the Regal from same artist is also mentionned under this compilation in the book
https://www.discogs.com/fr/master/16343 ... ounty-Jail

I own the book and the rate is well 4.5

[lagire]

On same Pardo Book, Ronettes, The "Presenting the Fabulous Ronettes featuring Veronica" appears on the list under This release
https://www.discogs.com/fr/release/2799 ... e-Ronettes

In the book, it is mentionned as "The Ronettes" (1981), but in fact it's this release.
The Songs listed in the book are the same than the compilation.
proof in attachment

[lagire]

Yet on AM of course, but no link of the list on AM.
Here it is with the rating for each album.

1000 Albums well mentionned but only one Cindy Lauper "She's So Unusual" with no rate

[lagire]

Lou Reed "Sword of Damocles - Externally" appears on the list "Technikart (France) - Top 20 Songs per Year 1991-2011"
at rank 18 under the incorrect typewriting "Sword of darkness"

[lagire]

Got the 1988 Magazine actuel special issue
Corrections in link above and have to add 2nd orders!
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... php?t=3358

[lagire]

Corrections from the list
Luca Sofri (Italy) - Playlist: 2978 canzoni di cui non potete fare a meno [2,978 Songs You Can't Live Without] (2008)
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... 12#p193112

Terminated

[VacantJoy]

NPR (USA) - The 300 Most Important American Records of the 20th Century (1999)

The link is broken,here is a new one https://news.npr.org/programs/specials/ ... 0list.html

[lagire]

The list "Billboard (USA) - The 50 Greatest Latin Songs of All Time (2015, updated 2017)", 2020 update
is no longer ranked

https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... 60#p194460

[o.m.]

Ned Raggett (USA) - The Top 136 Albums of the Nineties (1999)

The link is broken,here is a new one https://web.archive.org/web/20000417163 ... dmain.html

[VacantJoy]

Paul Gambaccini - The World Critics Best Albums of All Time (1977)
Paul Gambaccini - The World Critics Best Albums of All Time (1987)


The country is (USA-UK)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critic%27 ... 200_Albums

[Nick]

The link to Mana's artist page is broken.

[Nick]

On the Artists page, Ella Mai is listed under "E", when she should be listed under "M" as "Mai, Ella".

[VacantJoy]

The mentions from the reissue seems not to be added to AM.
Various writers - Albums: 50 Years of Great Recordings (2005)
viewtopic.php?p=2460&hilit=50+Years+of+ ... ings#p2460

do we have info about the book ?
Also the Country ( ) is Missing

[lagire]

No particular info, seems to be us but not sure

[panam]

Maybe it's an absurd question for Henrik, but could all the reports have been reviewed? between real and false alarms? Considering that a new edition is coming

[rollinstone]

Note that "Ya Rayah" by Rachid Taha (listed as a 1997 song) was actually released on his 1993 self-titled album. The 1997 re-release later became a hit.

[Jonathon]

The Bob Dylan and the Band version of “I Shall Be Released” wasn’t released until 1991. The version Dylan released in 1971 was not recorded with The Band.

[Henrik]

Juliette Gréco link is not working
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/forums/v ... hp?t=15212

[VacantJoy]

Daphni is Caribou/Manitoba btw these 3 names are his stage names , the real one is Dan Snaith
https://www.acclaimedmusic.net/artist/Daphni.htm not credited in Caribou/Manitoba

[stone37]

"Mama He's Crazy" by the Judds should be in 1984 according to Wikipedia and RYM.

[Sweepstakes Ron]

The original studio version of "Do You Feel Like We Do" by Peter Frampton was released in 1973, while the live version was released in 1976. I don't know whether any of Frampton's live versions should be listed as the "most acclaimed versions".

[JSG]

The original studio version of "Do You Feel Like We Do" by Peter Frampton was released in 1973, while the live version was released in 1976. I don't know whether any of Frampton's live versions should be listed as the "most acclaimed versions".

I’m no Peter Frampton expert, but as someone who grew up during the 70s, I’d say the songs from Frampton Comes Alive were far and away his best loved work. This includes Do You Fel Like We Do.

[Harold]

The original studio version of "Do You Feel Like We Do" by Peter Frampton was released in 1973, while the live version was released in 1976. I don't know whether any of Frampton's live versions should be listed as the "most acclaimed versions".

I’m no Peter Frampton expert, but as someone who grew up during the 70s, I’d say the songs from Frampton Comes Alive were far and away his best loved work. This includes Do You Fel Like We Do.

I'll second this and go further. Has anyone here ever heard the original studio versions of "Show Me the Way," "Baby, I Love Your Way," or "Do You Feel Like We Do" on the radio? Anyone? No one would even know those songs exist without FCA.

[JSG]

The original studio version of "Do You Feel Like We Do" by Peter Frampton was released in 1973, while the live version was released in 1976. I don't know whether any of Frampton's live versions should be listed as the "most acclaimed versions".

I’m no Peter Frampton expert, but as someone who grew up during the 70s, I’d say the songs from Frampton Comes Alive were far and away his best loved work. This includes Do You Fel Like We Do.

I'll second this and go further. Has anyone here ever heard the original studio versions of "Show Me the Way," "Baby, I Love Your Way," or "Do You Feel Like We Do" on the radio? Anyone? No one would even know those songs exist without FCA.

Thanks for the validation! My answers would be no, no, and no. And I listened to a LOT of radio back in the day! I’m honestly very surprised he’s getting inducted into the rrhof before the likes of Joy Division/New Order. No disrespect to the guy, though!